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How much HGH to take?
Atleast 7iu (2.5mg) per day
you can do 7-20 MAX, but it's ineffective in the terms of prize/outcome.
20iu = 6.5mg
IU to Mg converter site
Is aromatase inhibitor (AI) needed?
Aromatase slows down the growth plates from fusing by blocking estrogen, before taking an AI, make sure you do the bloodwork, to further check if your E is one digit, so you don't crash
Aromatase inhibitor would reduce ERa and ERb receptor activation in the pituitary/hypothalamus axis, in turn, upregulating GnRH release, in turn, increasing the synthesis of lutenising hormone.
especially on letrozole, or anastrozole, both of which inhibit 97.9-99.9% of aromatase activity. Your testosterone levels would skyrocket, as well as dihydrotestosterone and other androgen metabolites. androgens also age bone, that's my point. There's a flaw in everything.
But without AI, you'll fuse your growth plates faster, your estrogen will go through roof, so decide yourself whether you want to take it.
Reminder that letrozole/arimidex needs to be taken religiously daily. Miss 3 days' doses in a row, you will fuse your plates. Once you miss a few doses, your body gets a masive increase in the production of estrogen (You will become gay), and your plates fuse (It'll be over son
). It's like the body "saves" all the estrogen it doesn't produce while you take those pills, and once you stop taking them, your body starts overflowing with the "stored" estrogen. Never miss doses if you start taking them until you are fully heightmaxed. Arimidex will inhibit only about 20-30% of the estrogen in your body, so PRIORITIZE AROMASIN
Aromasin is a suicidal AI. No estrogen rebound, aka you are safe on that one.
Letrozole and arimidex tank up your estrogen, and hence get released all at once when you stop them.
The absence of Pyridostigmine
Pyridostigmine is a somatostatin (HGH release inhibitor) inhibitor. That means it will allow us to get more HGH release from ibutamoren/mk677 due to the removal of HGH inhibitor somatostatin.
Ideally 300mcg morning and 400mcg night every day. Minimum is 200mcg every night
Extra chromosome gh routine
Does this mean cartilage on nose and ears will grow too?
No ear growth. For nose possibly, but not significant. It is the spine we are talking about.
At what age bones fuse?
Males:
Generally speaking, at the age 19 there's about a 98% chance it's over, and you pretty much can't do anything. BUT you should try before giving up. Here's a case who used peptides AT 19 AND GAINED 1.5 INCHES IN 4 WEEKS.
His cycle
- CJC1295 w/o dac 100-300mcg daily
- Hexarelin 100mcg x3-x5 daily
- GHRP6 200mcg x3-x5 daily
- Adex (Letro if very prone to estrogen) dose depending on e2 sensitivity.
Steroids (Androgens) while taking Gh
Roids will advance your bone age even while taken with AI.
Just be careful.
If you want to roid then there must be HGH taken with it tbh, to not miss extra potential.
Doesnt trenbolone stop estrogen? do i still need an AI?
T converts to estrogen that is required for a proper functionality of your body. Tren does not convert. That is why nobody runs just tren.
- Tren is aromatization resistant. But will kill natty T hard. You would need hCG to keep your balls alive.
Don’t aromatase inhibitors have an effect on the strength of your bones?
There is bone turn over issue with low estrogen. But when you take GH peptides, flurbiprofen, k2 (Natural AI), etc.. it won't an extreme issue.
Plus this is pronounced with women because estrogen is their dominant hormone.
What are the risks. Won't you get heart hyerplasia as well?
Peptides are cardio-protective. They are healthy actually.
- I would even suggest giving them a run for health benefits like hair, skin, well-being, nootropic effects, fat loss etc...
Teencels, pay attention;
Defnintely warn people that they need to keep taking letro or slowly taper off, they cant forget doses or just drop it after taking it.
- Also mention that taking 2-3ius of GH a day will actually stunt your growth, you would naturally make about 2.5ius of GH as a teenager. SO you would definitely either need to use peptides or take 4 pharma +ius of gh (or 7-8+ ius generic) as a teen if you want to grow with it, or else you will literally stunt yourself.
tldr
-must take letro consistently, no dropping it all of a sudden
-low doses of iu will stunt you because you naturally make more and natural gh will be inhibited. either take more ius or peptides.
Relaxin?
Could cause a man to grow from 4'10 to 7 feet
- But there is mystery if they can grow when their growth plates are closed? Not any studies done
Atleast 7iu (2.5mg) per day
you can do 7-20 MAX, but it's ineffective in the terms of prize/outcome.
20iu = 6.5mg
IU to Mg converter site
Converting between IU and mg/mcg (Convert IU to mcg/mg, convert mg/mcg to IU, Internationl Unit converter) --e-Tools Age
How can I Convert IU to mg/mcg and How can I Convert mg/mcg to IU? The converter permits the user to convert between international unit and weight of biologycal substance invoking antibiotic, vitamin,enzyme and hormone.
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Is aromatase inhibitor (AI) needed?
Aromatase slows down the growth plates from fusing by blocking estrogen, before taking an AI, make sure you do the bloodwork, to further check if your E is one digit, so you don't crash
Aromatase inhibitor would reduce ERa and ERb receptor activation in the pituitary/hypothalamus axis, in turn, upregulating GnRH release, in turn, increasing the synthesis of lutenising hormone.
especially on letrozole, or anastrozole, both of which inhibit 97.9-99.9% of aromatase activity. Your testosterone levels would skyrocket, as well as dihydrotestosterone and other androgen metabolites. androgens also age bone, that's my point. There's a flaw in everything.
But without AI, you'll fuse your growth plates faster, your estrogen will go through roof, so decide yourself whether you want to take it.
Reminder that letrozole/arimidex needs to be taken religiously daily. Miss 3 days' doses in a row, you will fuse your plates. Once you miss a few doses, your body gets a masive increase in the production of estrogen (You will become gay), and your plates fuse (It'll be over son
). It's like the body "saves" all the estrogen it doesn't produce while you take those pills, and once you stop taking them, your body starts overflowing with the "stored" estrogen. Never miss doses if you start taking them until you are fully heightmaxed. Arimidex will inhibit only about 20-30% of the estrogen in your body, so PRIORITIZE AROMASINAromasin is a suicidal AI. No estrogen rebound, aka you are safe on that one.
Letrozole and arimidex tank up your estrogen, and hence get released all at once when you stop them.
The absence of Pyridostigmine
Pyridostigmine is a somatostatin (HGH release inhibitor) inhibitor. That means it will allow us to get more HGH release from ibutamoren/mk677 due to the removal of HGH inhibitor somatostatin.
Ideally 300mcg morning and 400mcg night every day. Minimum is 200mcg every night
Extra chromosome gh routine
A
. Elevation of systemic levels(baseline) of HGH and IGF-1:
- 25mg of mk677 morning and 25mg mk677 night. Every day. (Not necessity, it's just to make you hungry so you can eat in surplus).
- CJC-1295 DAC subQ, inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday (from madness)
B. Creating artificial peaks throughout the day:
- Hexarelin 100mcg 3x-4x daily for 2 weeks then GHRP-2 100mcg 3x-4x daily for 4 weeks then repeat back to hexarelin and so on.
- CJC no DAC 100mcg 3x-4x daily with hexarelin or GHRP2 from number 1.
Inject on an empty stomach (waking up or 3 hours after eating) and eat after 30 minutes.
C. IGF-1 (roid) :
IGF-1 DES injected at the the deltoids (shoulder muscles) 40mcg each side every day for frame growth. (Again, just to make musles in that area poping, not necessity). You would need hCG to keep your balls alive. But extra chromosome forgot that we want to extend our DHT, and we can do that by reducing SHBG, this is esentially how androgen dominant you are, so you should take PROVIRON instead
D. DNA methylation
Loss of DNA methylation will close your growth plates. This is what sets the limit to how you grow. So we need to increase it.
SAM-e and MSM will be used to promote DNA methylation
- SAM-e 1500mg every day.
- MSM 1000mg every day.
E. Increasing growth plate proliferation
- Glucosamine 1500mg every day.
- Chondroitin 1200mg every day.
Methods D and E work synergistically and increase the chances of growth.
F. Flurbiprofen
Basically k2 mk4 on roids.
..
Dosage: Flubiprofen 200 to 300 mg/day divided through 6-12 hours (eg. take 150 morning and 150 night)
Make sure to consume good amounts of water with it
G. Aromatase Inhibition
From my research I have noticed that.
- If you are going on a light HGH stack then arimidex or aromasin is best.
- If you are going on a stack with insane amounts of HGH then letrozole is the best. (Extra chromosome will need letrozole)
Dosage:
- Aromasin: choose from 12.5mg one day on one day off till 25mg everyday. (your choice)
Arimidex 1mg per day.
- Letrozole: choose from 0.5 mg one day on one day off till 2.5mg daily. (I am taking 2.5mg daily)
Start from lowest dosages and increase till what you see fit.
H. Androgens
To promote masculine growth and dimorphism use:
DHT gel on penis or 11-KDHT drops on forearms.
I. Building blocks (optional)
Vitamin D 10kIU per day
Vitamin k2 mk4 45mg per day
Magnesium 400mg per day
Zinc 50mg per day
Calcium 2g per day
Boron 9mg per day
How much would this cost monthly?
- 25mg of mk677 morning and 25mg mk677 night. Every day. (Not necessity, it's just to make you hungry so you can eat in surplus).
- CJC-1295 DAC subQ, inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday (from madness)
B. Creating artificial peaks throughout the day:
- Hexarelin 100mcg 3x-4x daily for 2 weeks then GHRP-2 100mcg 3x-4x daily for 4 weeks then repeat back to hexarelin and so on.
- CJC no DAC 100mcg 3x-4x daily with hexarelin or GHRP2 from number 1.
Inject on an empty stomach (waking up or 3 hours after eating) and eat after 30 minutes.
C. IGF-1 (roid) :
IGF-1 DES injected at the the deltoids (shoulder muscles) 40mcg each side every day for frame growth. (Again, just to make musles in that area poping, not necessity). You would need hCG to keep your balls alive. But extra chromosome forgot that we want to extend our DHT, and we can do that by reducing SHBG, this is esentially how androgen dominant you are, so you should take PROVIRON instead
D. DNA methylation
Loss of DNA methylation will close your growth plates. This is what sets the limit to how you grow. So we need to increase it.
SAM-e and MSM will be used to promote DNA methylation
- SAM-e 1500mg every day.
- MSM 1000mg every day.
E. Increasing growth plate proliferation
- Glucosamine 1500mg every day.
- Chondroitin 1200mg every day.
Methods D and E work synergistically and increase the chances of growth.
F. Flurbiprofen
Basically k2 mk4 on roids.
..
Dosage: Flubiprofen 200 to 300 mg/day divided through 6-12 hours (eg. take 150 morning and 150 night)
Make sure to consume good amounts of water with it
G. Aromatase Inhibition
From my research I have noticed that.
- If you are going on a light HGH stack then arimidex or aromasin is best.
- If you are going on a stack with insane amounts of HGH then letrozole is the best. (Extra chromosome will need letrozole)
Dosage:
- Aromasin: choose from 12.5mg one day on one day off till 25mg everyday. (your choice)
Arimidex 1mg per day.
- Letrozole: choose from 0.5 mg one day on one day off till 2.5mg daily. (I am taking 2.5mg daily)
Start from lowest dosages and increase till what you see fit.
H. Androgens
To promote masculine growth and dimorphism use:
DHT gel on penis or 11-KDHT drops on forearms.
I. Building blocks (optional)
Vitamin D 10kIU per day
Vitamin k2 mk4 45mg per day
Magnesium 400mg per day
Zinc 50mg per day
Calcium 2g per day
Boron 9mg per day
How much would this cost monthly?
- 25mg of mk677 morning and 25mg mk677 night. Every day. 80$
- 5000mcg CJC-1295 DAC subQ inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday 360$
- Hexarelin 100mcg 3x-4x daily for 2 weeks then GHRP-2 100mcg 3x-4x daily for 4 weeks then repeat back to hexarelin and so on. 100$
- CJC no DAC 100mcg 3x-4x daily with hexarelin or GHRP2 from number 1.Inject on an empty stomach (waking up or 3 hours after eating) and eat after 30 minutes. 50$
- IGF-1 DES injected at the the deltoids (shoulder muscles) 40mcg each side. (unknown as legit IGF-1 is rare to find)... Just check prize for Proviron tho, it shouldn't have to be expensive
- SAM-e 1500mg every day. 30$
- MSM 1000mg every day. ?
- Glucosamine 1500mg every day. ?
- Chondroitin 1200mg every day. 7. + 8. + 9. = 35$
- Flubiprofen 200-300 mg/day divided through 6-12 hours (eg. take 150 morning and 150 night) 80$
- 2.5mg letrozole daily Depends on the source. I got 10 year supply for 40$
- DHT gel on penis twice daily or 11-KDHT one drop on each forearm daily. Depends on the source. 4 month supply of 11-KDHT is 60$
Does this mean cartilage on nose and ears will grow too?
No ear growth. For nose possibly, but not significant. It is the spine we are talking about.
At what age bones fuse?
Males:
Generally speaking, at the age 19 there's about a 98% chance it's over, and you pretty much can't do anything. BUT you should try before giving up. Here's a case who used peptides AT 19 AND GAINED 1.5 INCHES IN 4 WEEKS.
His cycle
- CJC1295 w/o dac 100-300mcg daily
- Hexarelin 100mcg x3-x5 daily
- GHRP6 200mcg x3-x5 daily
- Adex (Letro if very prone to estrogen) dose depending on e2 sensitivity.
Steroids (Androgens) while taking Gh
Roids will advance your bone age even while taken with AI.
Just be careful.
If you want to roid then there must be HGH taken with it tbh, to not miss extra potential.
Doesnt trenbolone stop estrogen? do i still need an AI?
T converts to estrogen that is required for a proper functionality of your body. Tren does not convert. That is why nobody runs just tren.
- Tren is aromatization resistant. But will kill natty T hard. You would need hCG to keep your balls alive.
Don’t aromatase inhibitors have an effect on the strength of your bones?
There is bone turn over issue with low estrogen. But when you take GH peptides, flurbiprofen, k2 (Natural AI), etc.. it won't an extreme issue.
Plus this is pronounced with women because estrogen is their dominant hormone.
What are the risks. Won't you get heart hyerplasia as well?
Peptides are cardio-protective. They are healthy actually.
- I would even suggest giving them a run for health benefits like hair, skin, well-being, nootropic effects, fat loss etc...
Teencels, pay attention;
Defnintely warn people that they need to keep taking letro or slowly taper off, they cant forget doses or just drop it after taking it.
- Also mention that taking 2-3ius of GH a day will actually stunt your growth, you would naturally make about 2.5ius of GH as a teenager. SO you would definitely either need to use peptides or take 4 pharma +ius of gh (or 7-8+ ius generic) as a teen if you want to grow with it, or else you will literally stunt yourself.
tldr
-must take letro consistently, no dropping it all of a sudden
-low doses of iu will stunt you because you naturally make more and natural gh will be inhibited. either take more ius or peptides.
Relaxin?
Could cause a man to grow from 4'10 to 7 feet
- But there is mystery if they can grow when their growth plates are closed? Not any studies done
