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Info Abortion: An Overview and Proposed Solutions - Technological Advances Will Change Everything

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The Grand Solution to One of the Most Controversial Topics of Today: ABORTION : O

🔺Opening Statement:
Each human life is intrinsically valuable. It is not dependent on if they can contribute to society (no slave worth), but on their potential to grow, develop, have a positive impact on themselves and others, and have a capacity to learn, love, and contribute. We are all interconnected and diverse, unique, special, and rare, in our own ways. Compassion is powerful, and all individuals have inherent worth.
I will not say that being born is a gift, nor is it a curse. All humans feel suffering and joy and have certain views on life. Life is an experience, if I can put it impartially. And I believe it is worth seeing till the end, because in the end you will die anyway. Might as well try to work hard and do your best for what you believe is right, go through the tribulations and pleasures, see what is out there.
Part of this paper was created using AI.🔺


🔺Firstly, lets define abortion. According to the Oxford Dictionary, abortion in the context we are speaking of is the deliberate termination of a human pregnancy, most often performed during the first 28 weeks of pregnancy.
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When does life begin? Life begins at conception. It begins when sperm and eggs fuse to give rise to a single cell human zygote whose genetic individuality and uniqueness remain unchanged during normal development is widely supported. This is a fact, not an opinion. The zygote has the capacity to become an adult human individual.

look at dat lil bro we all used to be him
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Types of Abortion:
Medication Abortion: Two medications, mifepristone, and misoprostol. Mifepristone blocks the hormone progesterone, which is necessary to maintain a pregnancy. Misoprostol causes contractions of the uterus to expel the pregnancy tissue. This method is typically used up to about 10 weeks of pregnancy.
Dilation and Evacuation (D&E): Used after 14 weeks (usually till 24th week) of pregnancy, it involves dilating the cervix and using forceps and other instruments to remove the pregnancy tissue. It's usually done under anesthesia. The fetus’ limbs are torn off, and then the doctor prods around searching for its head and then crushing it. Then everything else is scraped out.
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Suction Aspiration: This is the most common type of abortion, used up to about 14 weeks of pregnancy. A tube is inserted into the uterus through the cervix, and the pregnancy tissue is removed using suction.
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“Abortion may also be performed surgically by hysterotomy or gravid hysterectomy. Hysterotomy abortion is a procedure similar to a caesarean section and is performed under general anesthesia. It requires a smaller incision than a caesarean section and
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can be used during later stages of pregnancy. Gravid hysterectomy refers to removal of the whole uterus while still containing the pregnancy. Hysterotomy and hysterectomy are associated with much higher rates of maternal morbidity and mortality than D&E or induction abortion.[80]
In places lacking the necessary medical skill for dilation and extraction, or when preferred by practitioners, an abortion can be induced by first inducing labor and then inducing fetal demise if necessary.[84] This is sometimes called "induced miscarriage". This procedure may be performed from 13 weeks gestation to the third trimester. Although it is very uncommon in the United States, more than 80% of induced abortions throughout the second trimester are labor-induced abortions in Sweden and other nearby countries.[85]
Only limited data are available comparing labor-induced abortion with the dilation and extraction method.[85] Unlike D&E, labor-induced abortions after 18 weeks may be complicated by the occurrence of brief fetal survival, which may be legally characterized as live birth. For this reason, labor-induced abortion is legally risky in the United States.[85][86]
Instillation abortion is performed by injecting a chemical solution consisting of either saline, urea, or prostaglandin through the abdomen and into the amniotic sac. The cervix is dilated prior to the injection, and the chemical solution induces uterine contractions which expel the fetus.[1] Sometimes a dilation and curettage procedure is necessary to remove any remaining fetal or placenta tissue.[2]
Instillation methods can require hospitalization for 12 to 48 hours.[2] In one study, when laminaria were used to dilate the cervix overnight, the time between injection and completion was reduced from 29 to 14 hours.[3]
However, this has fallen out of favor due to adverse side effects. Additionally, it is likely extremely painful, the fetus is literally being burned alive with the saline.
IDX (Intact Dilation and Extraction): During the surgery, the fetus is removed from the uterus in the breech position. If the fetal presentation is not breech, forceps or manual manipulation can be used to turn it to a breech presentation while in the uterus (internal version).[6] The fetal skull is usually the largest part of the fetal body and its removal may require mechanical collapse if it is too large to fit through the cervical canal.[5] Decompression of the skull can be accomplished by incision and suction of the brain or by using forceps to collapse the skull.[4]” Basically, the baby is partially induced to be born and its skull is crushed.
I would suggest using Google images to see how the procedures are done and how the aborted fetus appears, I won’t post it here due to NSFW rules. While you may say this is an attempt for persuasion: it may be, but I also want to show the reality.
  • If a woman attempts abortion without medical care, it is very risky. She might go to a fake doctor/healer, use herbs, insert painful objects inside of her via the vagina, use drugs, and cause trauma to the abdomen. This is very rare in countries that have legal abortion, but it is done out of desperation.
  • Mental health of the woman involving abortions is either inconclusive or not correlated. More studies need to be done.
  • An extremely low number of babies have survived abortions, with around 277 recorded instances.
  • Although subject to debate, the earliest some experts believe is 12 weeks for a fetus to feel pain. 94% of abortions are performed prior to 13 weeks. Fetal anesthesia does not exist.🔺

Some Arguments Involving Abortion:

🔺The “Future Potential” Argument
This argument can be used both ways, although oftentimes for the pro-life from what I’ve heard. I will explain why I believe it is invalid. This argument is about the future outcome of the fetus, and if it will have a positive or negative impact on society.
Example:
  • Pro-Choice: What if the baby grows up to be a criminal? Like a serial killer or in general low-life?
  • Pro-Life: What if the baby ends up becoming a scientific researcher and discovers cures to untreatable diseases?
Some studies show that babies born from unplanned pregnancies in unstable environments can grow up and have a higher risk of behavioral issues, in general growing up in poor socioeconomic or unsafe situations, parental neglect, foster homes, and lack of good education can very much lead to criminal behavior.
The 1972 Rockefeller Commission on "Population and the American Future" cites a 1966 study which found that children born to women who had been denied an abortion "turned out to have been registered more often with psychiatric services, engaged in more antisocial and criminal behavior, and have been more dependent on public assistance."[5] In particular, the study looked at the children of 188 women who were denied abortions from 1939 to 1941 at the hospital in Gothenburg, Sweden. They compared these unwanted children to another group – the next child born after each of the unwanted children at the hospital. The unwanted children were more likely to grow up in adverse conditions, such as having divorced parents or being raised in foster homes and were more likely to become delinquents and engaged in crime.[6]
I believe this argument is invalid because these things can happen even if the pregnancy was unplanned. Additionally, it would be better to address the underlying issues instead of terminating life before it even begins. Things like access to good education and familial support would fix this. More on that later.
Also, nobody is purely good or bad. This is a simplistic and subjective view on people. Humans are complex, we are capable and do commit acts of great kindness and terrible cruelty. People’s beliefs and actions are shaped by their genes and upbringing, and regardless, everyone has inherent value and potential. It is better to be compassionate and understand that we are human, instead of jumping to narrow-minded extremes.🔺


🔺The violinist argument, introduced by philosopher Judith Jarvis Thomson, is a thought experiment used to challenge the common pro-life argument that a fetus has a right to life.
The Scenario:
Imagine waking up to find yourself connected to a famous unconscious violinist. The violinist has a fatal kidney ailment, and you are the only person with the right blood type to keep him alive. If you unplug yourself, the violinist will die.
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The Argument:
Thomson argues that while it would be a kind act to stay connected to the violinist for nine months, you are not morally obligated to do so. Your right to your own body outweighs the violinist's right to life.
Applying to Abortion:
Thomson extends this argument to abortion. She suggests that while a fetus has a right to life, it does not have a right to use another person's body to sustain that life. A woman's right to bodily autonomy outweighs the fetus's right to life, making abortion morally permissible in certain circumstances.
Criticisms of the Argument:
  • The Voluntary Nature of Pregnancy: Critics argue that pregnancy is not a voluntary act like being connected to a violinist. Sexual activity, which can lead to pregnancy, is a choice (at least most of the time, 1.5% of women who get an abortion do it because of r**e or incest).
  • The Special Relationship: Some argue that the relationship between a mother and her fetus is unique and creates a special obligation to care for the fetus.
  • The Fetus as a Person: Some argue that a fetus is a person from conception and therefore has a right to life, regardless of the circumstances of its conception.
My final solution will also help remove the ethics regarding this problem. You will see, wink wink 😉. 🔺


🔺Overview of Reasons
Socioeconomic factors are often taken into consideration. Women who live with a lower income are less likely to get contraceptives, live in higher crime neighborhoods, and will struggle to afford to raise a child. Thus, a woman is more inclined to try to get an abortion, although sometimes she is unable to because she cannot afford it.
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Another reason is to pursue an education, a woman will probably mess around a lot nowadays but wants to have a stable career and social life.
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Sometimes, contraceptives fail by accident/rough sex, expiration, simple misplacement or poor material, or a sexual crime called stealthing is committed, where one of the partners purposefully damages or changes the contraceptive, to cause STDs and/or pregnancy.
Other sexually violent crimes like r**e and incest happen which are terrible.
There are also women in domestically violent or generally unsafe circumstances that are difficult to get out of, and she doesn’t want to bring a child into a world like that.
Additionally, other reasons like youth, expectations/pressure by peers, society, family, or fears lead to it.
And finally, a rare one, which is a health concern. Sometimes the baby will have a severe medical condition that is fatal to the fetus and/or mother.

There are several complex factors that contribute to young people engaging in sexual activity, often in tandem.
  • Biology: Puberty leads to hormonal changes that can increase sexual desire and interest. In general, it is normal for maturing people and adults to want to have sex, it's natural.
  • Society and Culture: Cultural norms and peer pressure can influence when and how young people become sexually active.
  • Relationships: People in romantic relationships may feel pressure to have sex and satisfy their partner.
  • Lack of Access to Comprehensive Sex Education: A lack of information about sex, contraception, and healthy relationships can lead to risky sexual behaviors.
  • Media Influence: Portrayals of sex in media can shape young people's understanding of sexuality and relationships, especially oversexualization. 🔺

🔺Now, let’s ask AI for examples of animals in nature aborting their children.
Yes, some animals abort their babies in nature:
  • The Bruce effect
  • When a new male enters a group, some pregnant female mammals abort or reabsorb their fetuses. This can happen in mice, deer mice, meadow voles, prairie voles, Mongolian gerbils, rats, sheep, and horses. The female may smell the new male's urine and abort. This behavior can help the mother save time and energy, and it can also benefit the new male.
  • Stressful events: Animals may abort their fetuses in response to stressful events like food scarcity, disease, or environmental conditions.
  • Egg tossing: In communally nesting birds, the dominant female may push the other birds' eggs out of the nest, killing them.
  • Trauma from capture: Pregnant sharks and rays may abort their young if they are captured by fishermen. The trauma of being caught can be enough to cause an abortion.
Some animals also display filial cannibalism where they eat their young shortly after giving birth.
Filial cannibalism can occur for a number of reasons, including:
  • When an infant is sick or deformed
  • When the mother can't produce enough milk or food
  • When the baby dies or can't survive
  • As a way to maximize reproductive success
Scientists believe that there is an evolutionary benefit to filial cannibalism, and that it's why the behavior has persisted across so many species.
So: abortion is somewhat natural, including purposeful. It is a response to threats, new mates, resource scarcity, the baby’s genetic fitness, and other reasons.
We can see this displayed in humans, although somewhat different it follows the pattern. 🔺


🔺Eugenics:
  • the study of how to arrange reproduction within a human population to increase the occurrence of heritable characteristics regarded as desirable. Developed largely by Sir Francis Galton as a method of improving the human race, eugenics was increasingly discredited as unscientific and racially biased during the 20th century, especially after the adoption of its doctrines by the Nazis in order to justify their treatment of Jews, disabled people, and other minority groups.
Some eugenics movements saw abortion as a way to prevent the birth of “unfit” individuals. It could be anything like intelligence, disability, and race.
A handful of people today view aborting babies who are tested for genetic abnormalities as eugenics. For example, chromosomal and inherited disorders like Down syndrome (Trisomy 21) or Huntington’s disease (brain degeneration).🔺

🔺Mortality
However, some genetic abnormalities are 100% or near fatal to the fetus, or after birth, such as anencephaly, inciencephaly (very rarely in mild cases they may survive), severe trisomy 13/Patau Syndrome, Trisomy 18 (Edwards syndrome), renal agenesis (missing kidneys, if both are missing it leads to early death), and other defects.
Additionally, an ectopic pregnancy (fertilized egg outside of the uterus) is not viable. Other unviable pregnancies are molar, or a blighted ovum when the fetus stops developing.
Now, the conditions for the mother:
  • Severe preeclampsia - deadly for both the mother and fetus. Nearly half of the babies are stillborn or die in the early neonatal period. The other half usually has severe life-inhibiting disorders. It is among the leading causes of death for birthing mothers. Most women will have their pregnancies artificially induced early, which does have problems for the fetus both short and long-term but is safer.
  • Eclampsia: an even more severe version of preeclampsia, maternal and fetal mortality is 50% without medical care. Eclampsia and severe preeclampsia are major death causes for women in developing countries.
  • Cancer: when aggressive treatment is required for cancers, there is a significant risk. Chemotherapy, radiation, hormone therapy, and surgery, may harm or kill the baby short-term or long-term, and lack of treatment will also harm/kill the mother. While it is extremely rare, sometimes the child may absorb cancer cells and have cancer as well.
  • For people who have severe heart conditions, they may be exacerbated during pregnancy and are also a massive cause of maternal death. Additionally, it may be inherited. Often women are recommended to have an early abortion for the safety of the mother.
Other
  • r**e: there are increased stress hormones during pregnancy, associated with miscarriages and early births, or poor fetal development. Poor mental health, inability to take care of oneself, and self-harm are also major risks. Babies will often grow up to have social disorders. If you read prior, animals often reabsorb their fetuses in times of stress. This may also partially be an unconscious strategy in nature, as r**e is a lack of consent on the mother’s part, and in nature, you want to select good genes instead of having them forced onto you.
  • As for incest r**e, the same applies, as well as the increased risk of genetic abnormalities and miscarriage.🔺

🔺Now, as for the basic solutions.
For the Mother: Comprehensive Support Services
→ Crisis Pregnancy Centers: Offering confidential counseling, material assistance, and adoption resources to women facing unplanned pregnancies.
→ Financial assistance: Programs providing financial aid for prenatal care, childbirth expenses, and childcare.
→ Housing assistance: Secure and affordable housing options for pregnant women and mothers.
→ Healthcare access: Ensuring access to quality prenatal and postnatal care, including mental health support. I believe healthcare and free clean water should be a universal right, as well as more efficient. But this is a step in the right direction.
→ Education and job training: Programs to help mothers acquire skills and education to improve their economic situation.
→ Parental planning: learning about how to take care of a child and being a good parent.
→ Adoption resources: Information and support for women considering adoption as an option.
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→ Counseling and support groups: Providing emotional support and guidance throughout the pregnancy and beyond.
→ Involvement: Encouraging fathers to take responsibility and support the mother throughout the pregnancy and beyond, as well as other people such as family, close friends, and workers. This can include financial support, emotional support, and shared decision-making.
→ Community Support: Building strong communities that offer support and resources to pregnant women, such as community centers and non-profit organizations.
For the Fetus:
  • Prenatal Care:
    • Early and regular prenatal checkups to monitor fetal development and address potential health issues.
    • Nutritional counseling: Guidance on a healthy diet to support fetal growth and development.
    • Medication and treatment: Addressing any medical conditions that may affect the fetus.
    • Education on fetal development: Providing information about fetal growth and milestones to foster a positive bond between mother and child.
  • Advanced Medical Care: Access to specialized medical care for fetuses with complex medical conditions, including fetal surgery and therapy.
  • Research and Innovation: Continued investment in research to improve maternal and fetal health, develop new treatments, and prevent birth defects.🔺

🔺Potential Downsides to Proposed Solutions for These Abortion Alternatives​

For the Mother:

  • Dependency on Government Programs: Reliance on government-funded programs can lead to delays and potential cuts in funding.
  • Limited Availability of Services: Access to quality healthcare, housing, and education may be limited in certain areas, particularly in rural or underserved communities.
  • Stigma and Discrimination: Women seeking assistance may face stigma and discrimination, impacting their self-esteem and access to services.
  • Ineffective Programs: Some programs may be poorly designed or implemented, failing to address the underlying needs of women.
For the Fetus:
  • Limited Access to Advanced Care: Access to specialized medical care, such as fetal surgery, may be limited due to cost or geographic location.
  • Ineffective Prenatal Care: Poor-quality prenatal care can lead to adverse birth outcomes.
  • Lack of Education and Awareness: Limited access to information about fetal development and healthy pregnancy practices can negatively impact maternal and child health.
General Challenges:
  • Funding Constraints: Many of these solutions require significant funding, which may be difficult to secure, especially during economic downturns.
  • Cultural and Religious Barriers: Cultural and religious beliefs can influence attitudes towards abortion and family planning, making it difficult to implement certain solutions like communal and familial support.
As for Adoption:

Emotional Impact

  • Grief and Loss: Placing a child for adoption can lead to significant grief and loss, particularly as the child grows and develops.
  • Regret: Some birth parents may experience feelings of regret, especially if they later face difficulties in their own lives or if they are unable to maintain contact with their child.
  • Difficulty Bonding with Future Children: Some birth parents may struggle to form strong bonds with future children, fearing a repeat of the loss.

Practical Considerations

  • Limited Contact: In many cases, birth parents have limited or no contact with their child after placement. This can be emotionally challenging, particularly if they desire a relationship.
  • Legal Process: The adoption process can be emotionally draining and legally complex, requiring significant paperwork and court appearances.
  • Financial Costs: While some adoptions are subsidized, others may involve significant financial costs, including legal fees and medical expenses.

Drawbacks of Foster Care​

While foster care provides a temporary home for children who cannot live with their biological families, it also presents challenges:

Emotional Impact on the Child

  • Trauma and Instability: Many children in foster care have experienced trauma, neglect, or abuse, which can lead to emotional and behavioral difficulties.
  • Frequent Moves: Frequent changes in placement can disrupt a child's sense of security and attachment.
  • Loss and Grief: Children may grieve the loss of their biological family, even if the situation is unhealthy.

Challenges for Foster Parents

  • Emotional Toll: Caring for children with complex needs can be emotionally demanding.
  • Limited Support: Foster parents may not receive adequate support and resources, leading to burnout.
  • Legal and Bureaucratic Hurdles: Navigating the foster care system can be complex and time-consuming.
  • Uncertain Future: The future of a foster child is often uncertain, as it depends on factors like reunification with the biological family or adoption.

System-Wide Issues

  • Overcrowding: Foster care systems can become overcrowded, leading to inadequate care and placement delays.
  • Lack of Qualified Foster Parents: There is often a shortage of qualified foster parents, especially for children with special needs.
  • Ineffective Case Management: Poor case management can lead to delays in providing services and support to children and families.🔺


🔺Drum roll please... 🥁🥁🥁
Artificial wombs, also known as artificial uteruses, are a concept that has been explored in science fiction for decades. The idea is to create a device that can support the growth and development of a fetus outside of a human body.

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While this technology is still in its early stages, there has been significant progress in recent years. Researchers have successfully grown fetal lambs in artificial wombs for extended periods. However, there are still many technical and ethical challenges to overcome before artificial wombs can be used for human pregnancies.

Potential Benefits of Artificial Wombs:
  • Increased Reproductive Options: Artificial wombs could offer new reproductive options for couples who are unable to conceive or carry a pregnancy to term.
  • Improved Fetal Health: A controlled environment could reduce the risk of complications associated with pregnancy, such as premature birth and birth defects.
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Challenges and Ethical Considerations:
  • Technological Limitations: Current technology is not yet advanced enough to fully support the development of a human fetus.
  • Ethical Concerns: The use of artificial wombs could raise ethical concerns about the nature of pregnancy, parenthood, and the value of human life.
  • Social and Cultural Impact: The widespread use of artificial wombs could have significant social and cultural implications.
Challenges and Limitations:
  • Technological Immaturity: Current technology is not yet advanced enough to fully support the development of a human fetus outside the womb.
  • Ethical Considerations: The use of artificial wombs raises numerous ethical questions, such as:
    • Personhood: When does a fetus become a person with rights?
    • Parental Rights: Who would have parental rights over a fetus grown in an artificial womb?
    • Consent: Would a fetus have the right to refuse to be born into a particular society or family? – [My thoughts: Nobody consents to be born in the first place, regardless of being born right now or in the future of an artificial womb.]
  • Social and Cultural Impact: The widespread use of artificial wombs could have significant social and cultural implications, challenging traditional notions of family, motherhood, and human development.
  • Accessibility and Cost: Access to artificial womb technology would likely be limited by cost and availability, raising questions about equity and justice.
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Could Artificial Wombs End the Abortion Debate? Christopher Kaczor: “Although artificial wombs may seem fanciful when first considered, certain trends suggest they may become reality. Between 1945 and the 1970s, the weight at which premature infants could survive dropped dramatically, moving from 1000 grams to around 400 grams.1 In 1973, the U.S. Supreme Court, in deciding Roe v. Wade, considered viability to begin around twenty-eight weeks. In 2000, premature babies were reported to have survived at eighteen weeks.2 Advanced incubators already in existence save thousands of children born prematurely each year. It is highly likely that such incubators will become even more advanced as technology progresses. Researchers are working to make super-advanced incubators, “artificial wombs,” a reality. Temple University professor Dr. Thomas Schaffer hopes to save premature infants using a synthetic amniotic fluid of oxygen-rich perfluorocarbons. Lack of funding has thus far prevented tests on human infants born prematurely, but Shaffer has successfully transferred premature lamb fetuses from their mother’s wombs and used the synthetic amniotic fluid to sustain their lives.3 At Cornell University, Dr. Hung-Ching Liu has taken steps toward developing an artificial womb by removing cells from the lining of a woman’s womb and then, using hormones, growing layers of these cells on a model of a uterus. The model eventually dissolves, leaving a new artificial womb that continues to thrive. What is more, Liu’s team found that, within days of being placed in the new womb, embryos will attach themselves to its walls and begin to grow. At that point, scientists must end the experiment to comply with in vitro fertilization (IVF) laws, so researchers do not yet know how long after the beginning stages of gestation this artificial womb would be viable.4”
“Abortion rights might be understood as the right not to be pregnant, the right not to have the human fetus in the womb, the right of extraction. On the other hand, abortion rights might be defined as the right to end the life of the human fetus in utero, the right to terminate not just the pregnancy, but also the life of the fetus.”
“Warren believes that the rights of the fetus to be in the womb do not trump the woman’s right of freedom, which is violated by the pregnancy. However, if the fetus were removed and placed in an artificial womb, the rights of the woman would no longer be violated. Likewise, in his book A Defense of Abortion, David Boonin argues against abortion as termination: [T]he claim that the woman has such a right [to terminate fetal life] would entail that if the baby survived an attempted abortion, or was born prematurely, before the woman had an opportunity to have the abortion performed, then she would still have the right to have it killed. And this is plainly unacceptable. It may well be true that many women who seek abortions do so because they want the fetus that they are carrying to be killed. And such women will to that extent be dissatisfied with a position in which it is morally permissible for them to have their viable fetuses extracted but not killed. But in the absence of an independent reason to think that they are entitled to have the fetus die when it is already viable, this seems to count more as a criticism of their desires than as an objection to the good samaritan argument.11”
Honestly, if the fetus is no longer a part of your body, then why should you have the right to kill it then. It’s not attached to you, there is nothing to gain from doing so unless you have some deeper reason like guilt to kill the child. The first definition of abortion rights given means that this technology is ideal, the second one is that you want to kill a fetus without searching for other solutions. This is a perfect opportunity to let it live without it impeding too much on your biology as you insisted on.
There is still a lot of nuance within religions surrounding this technology. Some interpret it as permissible, some don’t, some see it okay under certain circumstances.
Unfortunately, as you may have read, there are many restrictions that are preventing developments such as funding, laws, and also ethics. However, I firmly believe we should invest in this as it is seriously a wonderful thing.🔺

🔺CASES WHERE THE MOTHER MAY STILL CHOOSE TO ABORT DESPITE THE OPTIONS
As for fetuses that are genuinely nonviable/fail, it is best to abort them so as to not risk or kill the mother as well. Some may choose to abort fetuses that are only shortly viable after birth, such as Edwards’s syndrome, as to not experience all the pains involving labor since the fetus will die anyways. However, it is up to the mother, and she may choose to proceed for personal reasons, such as beliefs or just to hold it for a short while. Either way, when it is posing an extremely fatal risk to the fetus/mother and nothing such as technologies can prevent the deaths or lessen the extreme risks enough for the mother, I believe it should be completely legal for the woman to have an abortion.
However, I do also believe that a fetal anesthesia should be developed to prevent the pain.
As for r**e and incest, to me it is still a bit unsure. Yeah, you can most likely proceed with the artificial wombs and adoption/foster care even given the challenges, but it seems like a future full of turmoil given all of the drawbacks of adoption and foster care. As well as pain for the parent and child, being created of r**e.
For now, I will pick the ground of an early abortion. She should get one within 10 weeks, a pill abortion.🔺


🔺Closing Statement
In conclusion, the complex issue of abortion has been a subject of intense debate for decades. While there are passionate arguments on both sides, it is essential to approach this topic with empathy, understanding, and a commitment to finding solutions that respect the rights and well-being of all individuals involved.
This thread has explored the various facets of abortion, including its medical procedures, ethical implications, and societal impact. We have delved into the reasons why women choose abortion, the potential risks and benefits, and the moral considerations surrounding this choice.
Comprehensive support services for women facing unplanned pregnancies, and advancements in reproductive technologies such as artificial wombs, which could offer new options for women and reduce the need for abortions in certain cases seem to be a good fix for these issues, although there are still some drawbacks.
Continued research and innovation will continue, and it is important to have open dialogue and respect even though it can be a very sensitive and emotional topic.
By working together, we can create a society where women have the autonomy to make choices about their bodies and their futures, while also ensuring the well-being of all children.
Ultimately, the goal should be to reduce the number of abortions through education, prevention, and support, while also recognizing that abortion may still be a necessary option in certain circumstances.🔺


 
Mirin effort if not ai generated.
At the end of the day it's murder, and idk how soon we'll get artificial wombs, but hey.
 
idk where i stand on the abortion argument tbh
killing babies is cool, but i dont want women to get even more rights
 
My solution:
Abortion is necessary because it keeps down “certain populations”

People with certain genetic conditions (like downies) and people predisposed to criminality or low IQ should be aborted

It’s probably a smart idea to let most people who want abortions get abortions because only very dysgenic people would want one in the first place
 
My solution:
Abortion is necessary because it keeps down “certain populations”

People with certain genetic conditions (like downies) and people predisposed to criminality or low IQ should be aborted

It’s probably a smart idea to let most people who want abortions get abortions because only very dysgenic people would want one in the first place
So we should legalize murder?
 
My solution:
Abortion is necessary because it keeps down “certain populations”

People with certain genetic conditions (like downies) and people predisposed to criminality or low IQ should be aborted

It’s probably a smart idea to let most people who want abortions get abortions because only very dysgenic people would want one in the first place
Some people get abortions because they can't keep their legs closed, and that is a shame for what potential life was lost.
 
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My solution:
Abortion is necessary because it keeps down “certain populations”

People with certain genetic conditions (like downies) and people predisposed to criminality or low IQ should be aborted

It’s probably a smart idea to let most people who want abortions get abortions because only very dysgenic people would want one in the first place
i wrote about this
Mirin effort if not ai generated.
At the end of the day it's murder, and idk how soon we'll get artificial wombs, but hey.
partly yes because i locked in to write this
it would release in like a week if i didnt
i am aware/knowledgeable of all of these things tho, ive been researching this topic for a while
 
Dnr but my view of abortion as a christian

Abortion should not be legal. When engaging in sex you know theres a chance of getting pregnant and if ur pregnant u got a human life thats waiting to get born and it was your choice. Abortion is the same as murder since ur ending the life of a soon to be born human. And if u cant take care of the child its tottaly fine just set him/her up for Adoption when born. Most hospitals will take the child for you straight away if u want to BUT theres one time I belive Abortion is alr and that is incase uve been sa'd.
 
One note as well, is that abortion is almost never medically necessary to save the life of the mother. Doctors say it is, but for a while before 1972 they were finding ways to save both the mother and the child
 
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it is tho
i think muhammed ali had iq in the 80s
he was still very famous and successful
He was famous as a boxer + CTE probably fucked his brain for the tests

IQ is not end all be all but it’s good generally. Racial groups with higher IQ commit the least crime, have the best countries, contribute most to science etc

Inb4 the bad countries have low Iq because they’re poor

Look at black Americans. Full nutrition and decent living conditions yet average IQ 80

IQ in general is hugely correlated to career, and career success, and negatively correlated with promiscuity and criminality

Jewish success for ex is also largely bc of higher average Iq.
 
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He was famous as a boxer + CTE probably fucked his brain for the tests

IQ is not end all be all but it’s good generally. Racial groups with higher IQ commit the least crime, have the best countries, contribute most to science etc

Inb4 the bad countries have low Iq because they’re poor

Look at black Americans. Full nutrition and decent living conditions yet average IQ 80

IQ in general is hugely correlated to career, and career success, and negatively correlated with promiscuity and criminality

Jewish success for ex is also largely bc of higher average Iq.
low IQ is caused by
-poverty
-poor nutrition
-toxins during pregnancy and childhood like lead (cheap and used in africa)
-lack of education
there are all studies showing correlation
when black people are given good education and environment they can be on par with other race peers
 
low IQ is caused by
-poverty
-poor nutrition
-toxins during pregnancy and childhood like lead (cheap and used in africa)
-lack of education
there are all studies showing correlation
when black people are given good education and environment they can be on par with other race peers
There was a study that showed poor white kids had similar SAT scores to rich black kids. Like, bottom 10% whites had slightly above or below (forgot which one) top 10% black kids

Also the Minnesota twin studies where twins were separated. One being raised by higher Iq parents, and one by lower IQ parents. The one with higher iq adoptive parents had higher iq as children yet they had the same Iq as the other twin as adults (Iq is less stable as a kid and more stable as an adult)
In fact there were more overall similarities between them and their genetic related twin than someone they’re not genetically related to brought up in the same house

Scientists can also predict the adult personality of babies at birth. A lot about us is genetically determined.
 
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There was a study that showed poor white kids had similar SAT scores to rich black kids. Like, bottom 10% whites had slightly above or below (forgot which one) top 10% black kids

Also the Minnesota twin studies where twins were separated. One being raised by higher Iq parents, and one by lower IQ parents. The one with higher iq adoptive parents had higher iq as children yet they had the same Iq as the other twin as adults (Iq is less stable as a kid and more stable as an adult)
In fact there were more overall similarities between them and their genetic related twin than someone they’re not genetically related to brought up in the same house

Scientists can also predict the adult personality of babies at birth. A lot about us is genetically determined.
ye there are defo genetic reasons and also early years of life are crucial
but to label an entire race of people is dum
iq can change

The Eyferth study, conducted by German psychologist Klaus Eyferth, examined the IQs of white and racially-mixed children raised by single mothers in post-World War II West Germany. The mothers of the children studied were white German women, while their fathers were white and black members of the US occupation forces. In contrast to results obtained in many American studies,[1] the average IQs of the children studied were roughly similar across racial groups, making the study an oft-cited piece of evidence in the debate about race and intelligence.[2]

Thus, the results support the hypothesis that education has a causal effect on intelligence test scores. The effect of 1 additional year of education—contingent on study design, inclusion of moderators, and publication-bias correction—was estimated at approximately 1 to 5 standardized IQ points.
 
ye there are defo genetic reasons and also early years of life are crucial
but to label an entire race of people is dum
iq can change

The Eyferth study, conducted by German psychologist Klaus Eyferth, examined the IQs of white and racially-mixed children raised by single mothers in post-World War II West Germany. The mothers of the children studied were white German women, while their fathers were white and black members of the US occupation forces. In contrast to results obtained in many American studies,[1] the average IQs of the children studied were roughly similar across racial groups, making the study an oft-cited piece of evidence in the debate about race and intelligence.[2]

Thus, the results support the hypothesis that education has a causal effect on intelligence test scores. The effect of 1 additional year of education—contingent on study design, inclusion of moderators, and publication-bias correction—was estimated at approximately 1 to 5 standardized IQ points.
Like I said that’s because children have more variable IQs. It’s more stable as adults

Also mixed will obviously be closer to whites than blacks are. + I imagine the single mothers are also lower IQ as well lol.

Races differences with IQ isn’t that surprising considering sexual selection and whatnot. In Asian/Jewish societies IQ is valued a ton so reproductive success is highly based on career. The lower IQs get filtered out. Black groups don’t have the same filter
If tomorrow, black people as a collective changed their mating habits (how many have kids out of wedlock etc) their collective IQ would increase.

There’s a reason that white people advanced before balck people did. It wasn’t just magically.
 
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Like I said that’s because children have more variable IQs. It’s more stable as adults

Also mixed will obviously be closer to whites than blacks are. + I imagine the single mothers are also lower IQ as well lol.
true
Races differences with IQ isn’t that surprising considering sexual selection and whatnot. In Asian/Jewish societies IQ is valued a ton so reproductive success is highly based on career.
true
but there are exceptions :}
Ramarni Wilfred, Anala Beevers and Alannah George are three black kids who currently have the highest Intelligent Quotient (IQ) in the world that surpasses the likes of Bill Gates, Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton.
Black groups don’t have the same filter
If tomorrow, black people as a collective changed their mating habits (how many have kids out of wedlock etc) their collective IQ would increase.
yeah
i dont think its genetic mostly environmental
it can be helped
There’s a reason that white people advanced before balck people did. It wasn’t just magically.
do u know history
 
Like I said that’s because children have more variable IQs. It’s more stable as adults

Also mixed will obviously be closer to whites than blacks are. + I imagine the single mothers are also lower IQ as well lol.

Races differences with IQ isn’t that surprising considering sexual selection and whatnot. In Asian/Jewish societies IQ is valued a ton so reproductive success is highly based on career. The lower IQs get filtered out. Black groups don’t have the same filter
If tomorrow, black people as a collective changed their mating habits (how many have kids out of wedlock etc) their collective IQ would increase.

There’s a reason that white people advanced before balck people did. It wasn’t just magically.
Blacks are less smart on average because of cultural problems, but not because of the color of their skin
 
Like I said that’s because children have more variable IQs. It’s more stable as adults

Also mixed will obviously be closer to whites than blacks are. + I imagine the single mothers are also lower IQ as well lol.

Races differences with IQ isn’t that surprising considering sexual selection and whatnot. In Asian/Jewish societies IQ is valued a ton so reproductive success is highly based on career. The lower IQs get filtered out. Black groups don’t have the same filter
If tomorrow, black people as a collective changed their mating habits (how many have
out of wedlock etc) their collective IQ would increase.

There’s a reason that white people advanced before balck people did. It wasn’t just magically.
Just looked at it actually. The mother’s IQs weren’t much lower since it was similar to US average. But bad sample size + it’s definitely weird
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Usually there’s little to no gender difference in average IQ. There’s no difference between the mixed groups. Yet between white males and females it’s 8?
 
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Just looked at it actually. The mother’s IQs weren’t much lower since it was similar to US average. But bad sample size + it’s definitely weird
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Usually there’s little to no gender difference in average IQ. There’s no difference between the mixed groups. Yet between white males and females it’s 8?
randomness
 
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Just looked at it actually. The mother’s IQs weren’t much lower since it was similar to US average. But bad sample size + it’s definitely weird
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Usually there’s little to no gender difference in average IQ. There’s no difference between the mixed groups. Yet between white males and females it’s 8?
do chi square analysis i suppose >: )
 
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true
but there are exceptions :}
Ramarni Wilfred, Anala Beevers and Alannah George are three black kids who currently have the highest Intelligent Quotient (IQ) in the world that surpasses the likes of Bill Gates, Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton.
This is complete BS
Einstein and Newton never have taken an Iq test obviously. Estimations on their IQ are retarded and pointless
Bill Gates IQ estimation comes from his SAT score (pre 94 SAT is highly correlated with IQ. Personally I don’t believe it’s legit but statistics show that it is, so make of it what you will)
Which would be around 159

IQ scores above 160, arguably above 150 or even 145 are dubious because tests can’t generally measure that high. The max score on most tests is 160.
Sometimes you see higher numbers cited, and this is because the old method of measuring IQ was mental age/over real age which isn’t considered legit anymore

The other time is because some tests are SD24 instead of SD15 (common practice in UK iirc), so while normally someone with an Iq of 115 is top 15%ish, in these cases someone with an IQ of 124 (on that test) is top 15%ish

But yes there are over a billion black people so there are definitely black geniuses. Everything is a game of numbers and statistics. SEA people are short on average but there’s definitely some 7’0” people from there
 
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