Okay this is abt be a high iq thread
so what are antioxidants?
They are certain compound in plants, more specifically plant defence chemicals which prevents or protects our body from oxidative stress
for example: polyphenols, beta carotene, flavonoids, etc.
The truth:
too lazy to explain it but @Mandy? did it better
to simply, lets take an example
caffeine, people consume coffee because it gives u an energy spike, what if i tell u that this energy spike is because of blocking the adenosine receptors and forcefully waking u up, which disrupts ur natural process and as a result u get sudden energy.
caffeine is harming ur body and as a result u get an energy spike, thinking that u got that energy due to caffeine is wrong.
The same logic applies to antioxidants, as mandy said . It’s the bodies reaction that is antioxidant,once you consume it your body will use its real antioxidants such as L-glutathione, Vitamin E, cholesterol which is all present in meat which fights the oxidative stress.
so antioxidants like caffeine are stimulants, and when u overdose on them it harms our body.
just like caffeine overdose causing energy crashes.
too much antioxidants from plants acts as prooxidants in humans which isa well known fact.
antioxidants from plants arent required, we can synthesis our own antioxidants or get it from meat. They are just stimulants which stimulate or force our body to utilise our own antioxidants to fight against oxidative stress.
Scientific studies showing too much antioxidants from plants causes oxidative stress:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14585306/(beta carotene)
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
@Barbie @TonyDr @Randomized Shame (this is just another way to look at it, not saying its the correct judgement of antioxidants of plants)
@Mandy? @Archelaus
so what are antioxidants?
They are certain compound in plants, more specifically plant defence chemicals which prevents or protects our body from oxidative stress
for example: polyphenols, beta carotene, flavonoids, etc.
The truth:
too lazy to explain it but @Mandy? did it better
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Systematic Review on Polyphenol Intake and Health Outcomes: Is there Sufficient Evidence to Define a Health-Promoting Polyphenol-Rich Dietary Pattern? - PubMed
Growing evidence support association between polyphenol intake and reduced risk for chronic diseases, even if there is a broad debate about the effective amount of polyphenols able to exert such protective effect. The present systematic review provides an overview of the last 10-year literature...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
JFL all studies show an increase in natural antioxidants synthesized by the body, now tell me if polyphenols are beneficial then why does the body synthesize antioxidants after absorbtion if it’s good for you. The same fucking website also says a plant based is optimal.![]()
Health benefits of polyphenols: A concise review - PubMed
Plants produce polyphenols, which are considered highly essential functional foods in our diet. They are classified into several groups according to their diverse chemical structures. Flavanoids, lignans, stilbenes, and phenolic acids are the four main families of polyphenols. Several in vivo...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
to simply, lets take an example
caffeine, people consume coffee because it gives u an energy spike, what if i tell u that this energy spike is because of blocking the adenosine receptors and forcefully waking u up, which disrupts ur natural process and as a result u get sudden energy.
caffeine is harming ur body and as a result u get an energy spike, thinking that u got that energy due to caffeine is wrong.
The same logic applies to antioxidants, as mandy said . It’s the bodies reaction that is antioxidant,once you consume it your body will use its real antioxidants such as L-glutathione, Vitamin E, cholesterol which is all present in meat which fights the oxidative stress.
so antioxidants like caffeine are stimulants, and when u overdose on them it harms our body.
just like caffeine overdose causing energy crashes.
too much antioxidants from plants acts as prooxidants in humans which isa well known fact.
antioxidants from plants arent required, we can synthesis our own antioxidants or get it from meat. They are just stimulants which stimulate or force our body to utilise our own antioxidants to fight against oxidative stress.
Scientific studies showing too much antioxidants from plants causes oxidative stress:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0278691512006941#preview-section-introduction
https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=122414 (this highlights the dual nature of polyphenols)https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14585306/(beta carotene)

Lycopene and beta-carotene protect against oxidative damage in HT29 cells at low concentrations but rapidly lose this capacity at higher doses - PubMed
Epidemiological studies have clearly demonstrated a link between dietary carotenoids and the reduced incidence of certain diseases, including some cancers. However recent intervention studies (e.g. ATBC, CARET and others) have shown that beta-carotene supplementation has little or no beneficial...

Pro-oxidant Actions of Carotenoids in Triggering Apoptosis of Cancer Cells: A Review of Emerging Evidence - PMC
Carotenoids are well known for their potent antioxidant function in the cellular system. However, in cancer cells with an innately high level of intracellular reactive oxygen species (ROS), carotenoids may act as potent pro-oxidant molecules and ...

@Barbie @TonyDr @Randomized Shame (this is just another way to look at it, not saying its the correct judgement of antioxidants of plants)
@Mandy? @Archelaus