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Okay this is abt be a high iq thread

so what are antioxidants?

They are certain compound in plants, more specifically plant defence chemicals which prevents or protects our body from oxidative stress

for example: polyphenols, beta carotene, flavonoids, etc.

The truth:

too lazy to explain it but @Mandy? did it better

to simply, lets take an example

caffeine, people consume coffee because it gives u an energy spike, what if i tell u that this energy spike is because of blocking the adenosine receptors and forcefully waking u up, which disrupts ur natural process and as a result u get sudden energy.

caffeine is harming ur body and as a result u get an energy spike, thinking that u got that energy due to caffeine is wrong.

The same logic applies to antioxidants, as mandy said . It’s the bodies reaction that is antioxidant,once you consume it your body will use its real antioxidants such as L-glutathione, Vitamin E, cholesterol which is all present in meat which fights the oxidative stress.

so antioxidants like caffeine are stimulants, and when u overdose on them it harms our body.

just like caffeine overdose causing energy crashes.
too much antioxidants from plants acts as prooxidants in humans which isa well known fact.

antioxidants from plants arent required, we can synthesis our own antioxidants or get it from meat. They are just stimulants which stimulate or force our body to utilise our own antioxidants to fight against oxidative stress.

Scientific studies showing too much antioxidants from plants causes oxidative stress:

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=122414 (this highlights the dual nature of polyphenols)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14585306/(beta carotene)


@Barbie @TonyDr @Randomized Shame (this is just another way to look at it, not saying its the correct judgement of antioxidants of plants)
@Mandy? @Archelaus
 
Thank you that I’m mentioned here. This thread is 100% true,byt the thing is caffeine at doses of above 300mg are stressing. You can prevent a spike in stress hormones by consuming caffeine on a full stomach after breakfast ideally,with milk and sugar in the coffee to prevent cortisol from rising since caffeine lowers blood sugar and you must consume carbs with coffee. Good thread overall though.
 
Thank you that I’m mentioned here. This thread is 100% true,byt the thing is caffeine at doses of above 300mg are stressing. You can prevent a spike in stress hormones by consuming caffeine on a full stomach after breakfast ideally,with milk and sugar in the coffee to prevent cortisol from rising since caffeine lowers blood sugar and you must consume carbs with coffee. Good thread overall though.
i just included caffeine to simplify and help people understand how it works, not that i am hating on it, but i understand
 
i just included caffeine to simplify and help people understand how it works, not that i am hating on it, but i understand
But I have to say your thread is legit,no matter where those flavonoids will not increase anti oxidants in a sense they think it does. The best anti oxidants are Vitamin E and L-Glutathione and not to mention LDL cholesterol. Without these anti oxidants you would die.
 
But I have to say your thread is legit,no matter where those flavonoids will not increase anti oxidants in a sense they think it does. The best anti oxidants are Vitamin E and L-Glutathione and not to mention LDL cholesterol. Without these anti oxidants you would die.
thanks boyo
 
Okay this is abt be a high iq thread

so what are antioxidants?

They are certain compound in plants, more specifically plant defence chemicals which prevents or protects our body from oxidative stress

for example: polyphenols, beta carotene, flavonoids, etc.

The truth:

too lazy to explain it but @Mandy? did it better

to simply, lets take an example

caffeine, people consume coffee because it gives u an energy spike, what if i tell u that this energy spike is because of blocking the adenosine receptors and forcefully waking u up, which disrupts ur natural process and as a result u get sudden energy.

caffeine is harming ur body and as a result u get an energy spike, thinking that u got that energy due to caffeine is wrong.

The same logic applies to antioxidants, as mandy said . It’s the bodies reaction that is antioxidant,once you consume it your body will use its real antioxidants such as L-glutathione, Vitamin E, cholesterol which is all present in meat which fights the oxidative stress.

so antioxidants like caffeine are stimulants, and when u overdose on them it harms our body.

just like caffeine overdose causing energy crashes.
too much antioxidants from plants acts as prooxidants in humans which isa well known fact.

antioxidants from plants arent required, we can synthesis our own antioxidants or get it from meat. They are just stimulants which stimulate or force our body to utilise our own antioxidants to fight against oxidative stress.

Scientific studies showing too much antioxidants from plants causes oxidative stress:

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=122414 (this highlights the dual nature of polyphenols)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14585306/(beta carotene)


@Barbie @TonyDr @Randomized Shame (this is just another way to look at it, not saying its the correct judgement of antioxidants of plants)
@Mandy? @Archelaus
I'll read it soon, i bookmarked the URL, i just can't today or rn cuz going through something sorry
 

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