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do you think you'll ever ascend?

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In what way?
 
i can improve a bit but I’m prob capped at mtb or lhtb max bc I don’t think I’ll get surgery
 
i think i'm never gonna ascend
yesssssssssss, I need to seriously get into skincare, lean out completely and debloat, grow my hair a little out and take a good care of it, grow out my eyelashes and take care of my lips. i will also use a little bit of makeup when i get my girl so
 
Yes but doubt I could higher than mhtn without surgery
 
Prob not without surgeries
 
Opposite?
A lot of what determines smv are unchangeable factors, race/pheno, height, personality

I’d only say smv’s easier to change in rare circumstances, like if someone has a horrible base, in which case yeah they’d be better off trying to stylemaxx/nichemaxx or whatever
 
Will do whatever it takes to get to htn including surgery. Currently mtn
 
A lot of what determines smv are unchangeable factors, race/pheno, height, personality

I’d only say smv’s easier to change in rare circumstances, like if someone has a horrible base, in which case yeah they’d be better off trying to stylemaxx/nichemaxx or whatever
Yeah true. I was thinking more along the lines of money, status, style, location (kinda, I guess it can make your smv higher relative to local population). Forgot about height and race basically
 
Yeah true. I was thinking more along the lines of money, status, style, location (kinda, I guess it can make your smv higher relative to local population). Forgot about height and race basically
I never rly got the money one. As long as u can show financial stability, more money doesn’t rly make a difference imo, unless u wanna attract gold diggers. Status is similar. The location one is also only effective depending on some unchangeable factors
 
I never rly got the money one. As long as u can show financial stability, more money doesn’t rly make a difference imo, unless u wanna attract gold diggers.
Eh, to a point. It can be the sort of thing to get a foot in the door if you will, but yes, after that you’re right
 
i think i will at one point, but i don’t have stacy potential or anything lol

i think after genio and maybe undereye fat transfer (and maybe nosejob) i could be hmtb-lhtb

but right now i have college, am saving for my study abroad, and have a bf who wouldn’t approve of any cosmetic procedures

maybe in my early 20’s
 
deadass i ascended like crazy in the past three years i gen went from sub 5 like actually physically repulsive to lmtb idk how much father i can go
 

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