Fishing for validation and social sadism

[Aluminineiuemiumeam]

I'm curious if anyone has any insight into the phenomenon where women use plausibly deniable non-verbal and tonal methods to bait a man (me) into flirting with them, and then use this as a means to humble-brag and go into histrionics about how they are being "harassed". They seem to work in tandem with male-type sadists who gravitate to the law enforcement fields, who then use more overt means of social sadism to punish me for taking the bait.

Have any other guys experienced this?

I do not see the point in attempting to have a relationship while I live in the USA, and I am saving money for a retirement visa somewhere else. Until then, I don't want to be tormented by women who react to my emotional unavailability by dangling the bait of warmth, kindness, and mutual sexual attraction in front of me. If anyone has experienced this, kindly share your theories about the reasons why women do this, the psycho-social dynamics of fishing for validation and social sadism as a sort of social maneuvering 1-2 punch combo, what women get out of it, why they all try to do this to me, and how I can make myself totally unreachable by women without incurring the social costs of being severely intimidating or extremely weird.

I want to be a completely bland non-entity to them.

My normal personality is that of the radically open, sincere, near autiste who loves learning about new things and socializing. But for some reason (I assume birth control and SSRIs) every woman since about 2013 has a cluster b personality disorder. I am very good at pretending to be stupid or just not emoting until people go away, but that attracts these sorts of women like shit attracts flies. I think they see me as a sort of irresistible test of their feminine wiles, and something which can't easily fight back socially so easy to neutralize via backbiting.

The weird thing to all of this is that I look much better now than I did when women completely ignored me, but now women treat me worse. The more work I put into becoming physically attractive, the worse women treat me. Similarly, the more physically attractive I become, the more openly aggressive other men become. I do not behave any differently than I did when I was in my early 20s, I still act like a nerd.

I do not want to deal with other people's mind games. I just want a wife, some kids, a house, a car, and to never have to put up with other people's bullshit ever again. I absolutely will not pretend to be an extra from Jersey Shore - honestly I'd rather die than act like such trash.

To summarize:

1. What is actually occurring?
2. Are my perceptions correct?
3. Is it actually useful to have correct perceptions here?
4. How can I make them stop attempting to bait me without behaving like an ogre or attracting a different sort of humiliating social attention?

The USA today feels exactly like school did when I was a kid, or a prison. I just want to do my time until I can buy my way to freedom. I do not want anything not already stated. Please respond only to what I have actually stated.

 

[choripan]

So much text to cope with being ltn.
Htn+ don't have this problems, no matter if he's in USA, China, or Mars.
Ascend or die incel

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IT'S OVER​

 

[Aluminineiuemiumeam]

So much text to cope with being ltn.
Htn+ don't have this problems, no matter if he's in USA, China, or Mars.
Ascend or die incel

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IT'S OVER​

I'm almost 40 years old, I did not have this problem at all growing up or even into late 20s.

You have no idea how easy life was in the 90s and early 2000s. My first gf was a black chick with huge tits, my second was a mexican chick who was pretty average, my third and fourth were fat pale scene chicks who dated each other along with me, and I was a complete fucking loser and social outcast in a small town in the middle of nowhere, Ohio. I went to homecoming and prom, I had friends, I could easily afford a car working part time for a computer repair shop.

I could go on about my 20s spent in the military and then working in a fishery, but seriously you younger guys are utterly betrayed. My financial/career situation has finally stabilized, but now all the women are either fat insane whores who want me to play stepdaddy to their grunting spawn, or they are in a sort of Babylonian cult hooker situationship with the Democrat party and their diversity hire job.

The issue is not that I couldn't get laid or in a relationship, but that the goods are so damaged that it is an existential threat to my finances to do so. I am not going to go through another divorce, so I am remaining single until I can retire to a third world country without divorce laws where I can literally buy a wife. I may even convert to Islam so I can buy 4 of them.

The purpose of this thread is to discuss and theorize about this phenomena, to verify that I am not insane, and to develop a means to avoid this behavior.

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

I'm curious if anyone has any insight into the phenomenon where women use plausibly deniable non-verbal and tonal methods to bait a man (me) into flirting with them, and then use this as a means to humble-brag and go into histrionics about how they are being "harassed". They seem to work in tandem with male-type sadists who gravitate to the law enforcement fields, who then use more overt means of social sadism to punish me for taking the bait.

Have any other guys experienced this?

I do not see the point in attempting to have a relationship while I live in the USA, and I am saving money for a retirement visa somewhere else. Until then, I don't want to be tormented by women who react to my emotional unavailability by dangling the bait of warmth, kindness, and mutual sexual attraction in front of me. If anyone has experienced this, kindly share your theories about the reasons why women do this, the psycho-social dynamics of fishing for validation and social sadism as a sort of social maneuvering 1-2 punch combo, what women get out of it, why they all try to do this to me, and how I can make myself totally unreachable by women without incurring the social costs of being severely intimidating or extremely weird.

USA women are in permanent insecurity they need a constant ego boost. Dating/Social medias has rotten their braincels
Feminism pushed the idea to give free passes to good looking guys and then blaming the guys they found disgusting

Not living in the USA is the only answer to that

 

[choripan]

I'm almost 40 years old, I did not have this problem at all growing up or even into late 20s.

You have no idea how easy life was in the 90s and early 2000s. My first gf was a black chick with huge tits, my second was a mexican chick who was pretty average, my third and fourth were fat pale scene chicks who dated each other along with me, and I was a complete fucking loser and social outcast in a small town in the middle of nowhere, Ohio. I went to homecoming and prom, I had friends, I could easily afford a car working part time for a computer repair shop.

I could go on about my 20s spent in the military and then working in a fishery, but seriously you younger guys are utterly betrayed. My financial/career situation has finally stabilized, but now all the women are either fat insane whores who want me to play stepdaddy to their grunting spawn, or they are in a sort of Babylonian cult hooker situationship with the Democrat party and their diversity hire job.

The issue is not that I couldn't get laid or in a relationship, but that the goods are so damaged that it is an existential threat to my finances to do so. I am not going to go through another divorce, so I am remaining single until I can retire to a third world country without divorce laws where I can literally buy a wife. I may even convert to Islam so I can buy 4 of them.

The purpose of this thread is to discuss and theorize about this phenomena, to verify that I am not insane, and to develop a means to avoid this behavior.

Agepill
If you were a handsome old man you wouldn't have divorced
No wife market for your bones

 

[choripan]

USA women are in permanent insecurity they need a constant ego boost. Dating/Social medias has rotten their braincels
Feminism pushed the idea to give free passes to good looking guys and then blaming the guys they found disgusting

Not leaving in the USA is the only answer to that

Just be handsome bhai

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

Just be handsome bhai

Doesn't mean the usa women aren't trash and wouldn't eat you alive, handsome or not

 

[neymar]

USA women are in permanent insecurity they need a constant ego boost. Dating/Social medias has rotten their braincels
Feminism pushed the idea to give free passes to good looking guys and then blaming the guys they found disgusting

Not living in the USA is the only answer to that

Or even the west

 

[htn]

Imo hoeflation is off the charts. If ur not at least htn you simply will not pull.

 

[Aluminineiuemiumeam]

Agepill
If you were a handsome old man you wouldn't have divorced
No wife market for your bones

The issue in my case was finances and marrying a dumb bitch to get out of the barracks. I could not catch a break getting promoted in the military, all of the promotions went to women or brown people despite these groups being mediocre at best. One of my senior marines dove into an Iraqi canal (basically an open air sewer) to pull an entire fire team out of a humvee that turtled into the canal. He was nominated for a silver star, got a bronze star, and the black guy who turtled the humvee got promoted to sergeant.

She and I managed to hang on for 3 years, but even out of the military no one would promote me if there was a woman or brown person who could be promoted instead. At that point she monkey branched to her boss, and that was that.

The divorce wasn't even that bad tbh, she just wanted me to fuck off. I know guys who are paying 1/2 of their pension to a stripper they married 15 years ago, and child support for 2 kids they have never seen. All in all I got off easy. But there's that prison mindset though, I "got off", as if I dodged a criminal charge.

 

[choripan]

The issue in my case was finances and marrying a dumb bitch to get out of the barracks. I could not catch a break getting promoted in the military, all of the promotions went to women or brown people despite these groups being mediocre at best. One of my senior marines dove into an Iraqi canal (basically an open air sewer) to pull an entire fire team out of a humvee that turtled into the canal. He was nominated for a silver star, got a bronze star, and the black guy who turtled the humvee got promoted to sergeant.

She and I managed to hang on for 3 years, but even out of the military no one would promote me if there was a woman or brown person who could be promoted instead. At that point she monkey branched to her boss, and that was that.

The divorce wasn't even that bad tbh, she just wanted me to fuck off. I know guys who are paying 1/2 of their pension to a stripper they married 15 years ago, and child support for 2 kids they have never seen. All in all I got off easy. But there's that prison mindset though, I "got off", as if I dodged a criminal charge.

Htn+ doesn't have any of this experiences

 

[Aluminineiuemiumeam]

Htn+ doesn't have any of this experiences

No shit, that's not the purpose of this thread.

The purpose of this thread is to document this behavior for future reference, to gather information from others who dealt with it, and to develop counters to it or better yet find ways to exploit it.

The point of masculinity is not just to be a pretty face or powerful body, but to have agency, control yourself, and control your environment. I am not some subhuman woman who makes all of my decisions based purely on social pressure or emotions. I impose my will on my body, not the other way around.

Your posts are extremely low quality.

 

[Wilk]

I'm curious if anyone has any insight into the phenomenon where women use plausibly deniable non-verbal and tonal methods to bait a man (me) into flirting with them, and then use this as a means to humble-brag and go into histrionics about how they are being "harassed". They seem to work in tandem with male-type sadists who gravitate to the law enforcement fields, who then use more overt means of social sadism to punish me for taking the bait.

Have any other guys experienced this?

I do not see the point in attempting to have a relationship while I live in the USA, and I am saving money for a retirement visa somewhere else. Until then, I don't want to be tormented by women who react to my emotional unavailability by dangling the bait of warmth, kindness, and mutual sexual attraction in front of me. If anyone has experienced this, kindly share your theories about the reasons why women do this, the psycho-social dynamics of fishing for validation and social sadism as a sort of social maneuvering 1-2 punch combo, what women get out of it, why they all try to do this to me, and how I can make myself totally unreachable by women without incurring the social costs of being severely intimidating or extremely weird.

I want to be a completely bland non-entity to them.

My normal personality is that of the radically open, sincere, near autiste who loves learning about new things and socializing. But for some reason (I assume birth control and SSRIs) every woman since about 2013 has a cluster b personality disorder. I am very good at pretending to be stupid or just not emoting until people go away, but that attracts these sorts of women like shit attracts flies. I think they see me as a sort of irresistible test of their feminine wiles, and something which can't easily fight back socially so easy to neutralize via backbiting.

The weird thing to all of this is that I look much better now than I did when women completely ignored me, but now women treat me worse. The more work I put into becoming physically attractive, the worse women treat me. Similarly, the more physically attractive I become, the more openly aggressive other men become. I do not behave any differently than I did when I was in my early 20s, I still act like a nerd.

I do not want to deal with other people's mind games. I just want a wife, some kids, a house, a car, and to never have to put up with other people's bullshit ever again. I absolutely will not pretend to be an extra from Jersey Shore - honestly I'd rather die than act like such trash.

To summarize:

1. What is actually occurring?
2. Are my perceptions correct?
3. Is it actually useful to have correct perceptions here?
4. How can I make them stop attempting to bait me without behaving like an ogre or attracting a different sort of humiliating social attention?

The USA today feels exactly like school did when I was a kid, or a prison. I just want to do my time until I can buy my way to freedom. I do not want anything not already stated. Please respond only to what I have actually stated.

Niga, you dont understand FEMALE nature yet. THERE ARE NO COUNTRIES WERE THEY ARE INTERNALLY DIFFERENT. Dont fall for this trapp!

Also, answering your other question:
READ THOSE:

Women Self Sense Of Social Sexual Value

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[Aluminineiuemiumeam]

Niga, you dont understand FEMALE nature yet. THERE ARE NO COUNTRIES WERE THEY ARE INTERNALLY DIFFERENT. Dont fall for this trapp!

Can you read?

I stated that the goal was to move to a country that doesn't have divorce laws and doesn't allow divorce, and which is so poor that I can just buy a wife or wives.

The problem is not women themselves, but the law and the simps who enforce it.

 

[Wilk]

Can you read?

I stated that the goal was to move to a country that doesn't have divorce laws and doesn't allow divorce, and which is so poor that I can just buy a wife or wives.

The problem is not women themselves, but the law and the simps who enforce it.

dude, are a moving to a place unknow, full of danger, just to receive the fake simulation of an ideal women. You are still being controlled by that

 

[Wilk]

USA women are in permanent insecurity they need a constant ego boost. Dating/Social medias has rotten their braincels
Feminism pushed the idea to give free passes to good looking guys and then blaming the guys they found disgusting

Not living in the USA is the only answer to that

Or even the west

guys, it is not about the law or the countries. You all already discovered the truth: it is female nature itself.

 

[Aluminineiuemiumeam]

dude, are a moving to a place unknow, full of danger, just to receive the fake simulation of an ideal women. You are still being controlled by that

Being afraid of dangerous situations is beta. Besides that, never having to deal with lawyers, being able to bribe cops and officials, being able to just disappear anyone who fucks with me, and extralegal opportunities are my other reasons for wanting to leave the USA.

If you're a Straight White Male there's no point in staying in the USA. Here, I am just the cuck paypig giving my tax dollars to brown people to breed infinity brown people. Over there, I can marry a woman to get naturalized, buy a bunch of land, become a tyrannical landlord, and generally be the evil overlord I've always wanted to be.

Furthermore, I can always buy eggs from White donors to make dozens of White kids, whereas in the USA I can have at most maybe 6 kids with one woman. Staying in the USA doesn't scale.

Dnr just stop being subhuman

Learn to read.

guys, it is not about the law or the countries. You all already discovered the truth: it is female nature itself.

Again: read what I am actually writing, not what the voices in your head say I'm writing.

 

[neymar]

guys, it is not about the law or the countries. You all already discovered the truth: it is female nature itself.

But brainwashing too

 

[Wilk]

Being afraid of dangerous situations is beta. Besides that, never having to deal with lawyers, being able to bribe cops and officials, being able to just disappear anyone who fucks with me, and extralegal opportunities are my other reasons for wanting to leave the USA.

If you're a Straight White Male there's no point in staying in the USA. Here, I am just the cuck paypig giving my tax dollars to brown people to breed infinity brown people. Over there, I can marry a woman to get naturalized, buy a bunch of land, become a tyrannical landlord, and generally be the evil overlord I've always wanted to be.

Furthermore, I can always buy eggs from White donors to make dozens of White kids, whereas in the USA I can have at most maybe 6 kids with one woman. Staying in the USA doesn't scale.

Learn to read, n****r.

Again: read what I am actually writing, not what the voices in your head say I'm writing.

Your want to control your environment, being women included, is merely a reflection of your primitive inner instincts. You can go ahead and achieve all those goals, but you wont had gone beyond being a little uncivilized monkey. Your power makes you think you are much better then the others primates, but you are just becoming a gorilla..., give all the money to a monkey and he will use it to eat bananas..., the right thing to do would to become a civilized, rational, human being. And fucking around with women and politics wont make it. Fucking around with women is your inner irrational side

 

[Aluminineiuemiumeam]

Your want to control your environment, being women included, is merely a reflection of your primitive inner instincts. You can go ahead and achieve all those goals, but you wont had gone beyond being a little uncivilized monkey. Your power makes you think you are much better then the others primates, but you are just becoming a gorilla..., give all the money to a monkey and he will use it to eat bananas..., the right thing to do would to become a civilized, rational, human being. And fucking around with women and politics wont make it. Fucking around with women is your inner irrational side

Counterpoint: you are brazilian.

 

[Wilk]

Counterpoint: you are Brazilian.

It is true that most Brazilians are similar to Americans and most of humanity in this sense. But i am not a typical Brazilian. The previous message spoke about you acting irrationally and primitively, now that you had access to such reflexion, are you open to reflex about yourself and, maybe, improve yourself in this sense?

 

[dextermogin]

how are the kids doing unc