Discussion Give me one good reason that raw meat isn't an ideal component in diet

[mjölk]

Why is that and what capacity / conditions have you tried it in?

i did not try it but it smells like it will taste bad

 

[_x11]

Good thing about life is you can have both.You can eat some cooked meat in your diet for protein and raw meat for other nutrients.As for slowly build it up I’m not sure how effective this is since the thymus in adulthood shrinks.Ig another point is getting good meat to eat raw can be expensive that’s why u eat mainly cooked but some raw meat whixh is good for me anyways bcs im low in iron and zinc and cooked meat allows better zinc and iron absorption

you can consume thymus that should help it
but yes you can have both. But I'm arguing for pure ideals. Raw meat also isn't necessarily more expensive, you buy meat raw even if you cook it

 

[TonyDr]

From my experience most are epidemiology
In california a girl "died" from raw milk because she passed away and had had raw milk within 2 weeks lf dying, thus answered on the survey. She died of drowning.

Interesting
Here in France it's frequent that they do feces or blood samples to found what the cause of death and then connect the dots after

 

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Raw meat packaged cant be safe due to parasites and stuff bro correct if Im wrong tho

Yeah not necessarily
apparently as tonydr mentioned above most parasites cant even get into meat
and the stuff thats in there is not so bad

 

[Pinksunglasses]

Yeah not necessarily
apparently as tonydr mentioned above most parasites cant even get into meat
and the stuff thats in there is not so bad

Will deff research bro

 

[Hector of Troy]

so many recipes you can make from it, thats just ignorance

how would i make pizza pasta or hamburger with raw meat bhai

 

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how would i make pizza pasta or hamburger with raw meat bhai

Fuck those man they suck

 

[arniedagoats]

How are they basically the same?
-cooked meat reduces nutrients in a significant capacity
-reduces water soluble nutrients more specifically
-creates carcinogens from cooking
-wastes time on cooking


How is it ignorance about the risk?
How is the taste better?

name the nutrients
"i dont want the risk to exist, so it doesnt"
i mean the taste one should be pretty obvious

 

[Hector of Troy]

Fuck those man they suck

no mane
don do me like that

 

[arniedagoats]

How are they basically the same?
-cooked meat reduces nutrients in a significant capacity

not in a significant, a few vitamins yes, but the main parts stay

-reduces water soluble nutrients more specifically

eat an fucking orange and u get those back n***a

-creates carcinogens from cooking

no, only if u put it o fire or in coal or overcook it till its fucking black

-wastes time on cooking

wastes time in the hospital because he got salmonella and a fucking parasite

How is it ignorance about the risk?
How is the taste better?

 

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name the nutrients

B-vitamins and minerals, mostly anything that's in water, but some in the meat itself as well. Cba to list them all

"i dont want the risk to exist, so it doesnt"

Constant evidences of the risks being miniscule to none can enumerate if you want

i mean the taste one should be pretty obvious

Not really

 

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not in a significant, a few vitamins yes, but the main parts stay

sure, so I should reduce 60% of specific nutrients just because the main parts stay

eat an fucking orange and u get those back n***a

Only has Vit C lmao

no, only if u put it o fire or in coal or overcook it till its fucking black

Why does the WHO still classify cooked red meat as a carcinogen then?

wastes time in the hospital because he got salmonella and a fucking parasite

Lmao sure man how often does that really happen

 

[tami_26]

you can consume thymus that should help it
but yes you can have both. But I'm arguing for pure ideals. Raw meat also isn't necessarily more expensive, you buy meat raw even if you cook it

I think it depends where u live tbh,atleast where I am the raw meat I cook I wouldn’t eat raw at all.As for consuming thymus how would that help? I don’t think that stops it shrinking

 

[arniedagoats]

sure, so I should reduce 60% of specific nutrients just because the main parts stay

ye, because it just reduces them, and its easy asf to get these back

Only has Vit C lmao

which is one of the main vitamins u reduce when cooking

Why does the WHO still classify cooked red meat as a carcinogen then?

idc what they are classifying it as, fact is, if u do it right, the risk of cancer wont increase

Lmao sure man

ye

 

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I think it depends where u live tbh,atleast where I am the raw meat I cook I wouldn’t eat raw at all.As for consuming thymus how would that help? I don’t think that stops it shrinking

consuming thymus gives you nutrients that support thymus

 

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ye, because it just reduces them, and its easy asf to get these back

why waste time "getting them back"
why consume even more food to "get them back"

which is one of the main vitamins u reduce when cooking

idc what they are classifying it as, fact is, if u do it right, the risk of cancer wont increase

what is "doing it right"
why should you have to rely on "doing it right"

ye

 

[tami_26]

I don’t think that’s true,do you have anything I can read on that? The best rhing I know to help support it is managing BMI and reducing stress but it doesn’t stop it shrinking

consuming thymus gives you nutrients that support thymus

 

[arniedagoats]

why waste time "getting them back"
why consume even more food to "get them back"

because it healthier f****t, and mmost of the time theres still enough of the nutrients left

what is "doing it right"
why should you have to rely on "doing it right"

not overcooking it is doing it right
and u have to rely on being lucky when buying ur raw meat and u have to rel< on getting lucky to get one that doesnt have salmonella or parasites

 

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because it healthier f****t, and mmost of the time theres still enough of the nutrients left

how is losing nutrients and moisture healthier? How is making it more difficult for your body to process healthier?
Still "enough" "getting back" are compromises inherent to UNHEALTHIER foods

not overcooking it is doing it right

So just have it basically raw anyways like searing or rare?

and u have to rely on being lucky when buying ur raw meat and u have to rel< on getting lucky to get one that doesnt have salmonella or parasites

There's no luck involved really

 

[draftLexy]

yo g make a guide on raw meat and its benefits

 

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yo g make a guide on raw meat and its benefits

I will when feel like trying

 

[arniedagoats]

how is losing nutrients and moisture healthier? How is making it more difficult for your body to process healthier?
Still "enough" "getting back" are compromises inherent to UNHEALTHIER foods

ur not losing them, ur reducing them, most of the time theres still enough left
and u know that u can eat healthier foods with the rest of the nutrienst right? and if u also eat other things rich in nutriesnt, then ur diet wont be as boring

So just have it basically raw anyways like searing or rare?

no
just not OVER cooked

There's no luck involved really

what else then´?

 

[_x11]

ur not losing them, ur reducing them,

losing = reducing

most of the time theres still enough left

okay again "enough"
how is that healthier?

and u know that u can eat healthier foods with the rest of the nutrienst right?

what healthier foods are there than raw meat? raw organs?

and if u also eat other things rich in nutriesnt, then ur diet wont be as boring

why would i want to eat more stuff? why would i care about it being "boring"?

no

just not OVER cooked

so what specifically

what else then´?

Well just how would it be luck? Raw meat from grocer is fine

 

[arniedagoats]

losing = reducing

ye but again, most of the time there are still enough left

okay again "enough"
how is that healthier?

too much isnt healthy either

what healthier foods are there than raw meat? raw organs?

Lentils, Beans, Chickpeas, Oats, Broccoli, Kale, Spinach, Walnuts, Almonds, Flax Seeds, Chia Seeds, Soybeans, Tofu, Tempeh, Blueberries, Sweet Potatoes, Avocado, Quinoa
Brussels, Sprouts and Mushrooms to just mention a few

why would i want to eat more stuff? why would i care about it being "boring"?

well, because it is healthier and tastes better

so what specifically

dont cook it too much or too hot, especially dont cook it too much over coal

Well just how would it be luck? Raw meat from grocer is fine

well, only if ur lucky and grab one that doesnt have parasites

 

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ye but again, most of the time there are still enough left

"enough" man thats not ideal for health

too much isnt healthy either

yeah, and you won't have "too much"
you just get what you need from the food and move on, no mental gymnastics on nutrients

Lentils, Beans, Chickpeas, Oats, Broccoli, Kale, Spinach, Walnuts, Almonds, Flax Seeds, Chia Seeds, Soybeans, Tofu, Tempeh, Blueberries, Sweet Potatoes, Avocado, Quinoa
Brussels, Sprouts and Mushrooms to just mention a few

all unhealthy or neutral

well, because it is healthier and tastes better

why is it healthier?

dont cook it too much or too hot, especially dont cook it too much over coal

well, only if ur lucky and grab one that doesnt have parasites

they mostly won't have parasites and even if do won't effect negatively

 

[Tyrone D Goat]

Chances of getting from raw meat? If you get, would it really be bad for you?

puking your guts out is painfull, I would know

 

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puking your guts out is painfull, I would know

Doesn't happen w/ raw meat

 

[arniedagoats]

"enough" man thats not ideal for health

enough is literally all u need

yeah, and you won't have "too much"
you just get what you need from the food and move on, no mental gymnastics on nutrients

wrong. u get too much, and just shit the rest out. u get what u need from cooked food too

all unhealthy or neutral

how the fuck are these unhealthy? smartest tiktok carnivore edits reposter

why is it healthier?

because raw meat isnt that healthy (meat in general fries ur cardiovascular system and raises the risk for cancer, btu raw meat also has parasites and salmonella or infections n shii)

they mostly won't have parasites and even if do won't effect negatively

they mostly do, and yes, most of them will effect u negtively

 

[ecoli]

-Has full moisture / water content
-Has nutrients
-Has saturated animal fats
-Causes zero gut issues
-Potentially improves gut issues
-Causes zero other issues with bodily functions and perhaps improves them

there arent any

 

[Tyrone D Goat]

Doesn't happen w/ raw meat

bacteria then

 

[sams872]

-Has full moisture / water content
-Has nutrients
-Has saturated animal fats
-Causes zero gut issues
-Potentially improves gut issues
-Causes zero other issues with bodily functions and perhaps improves them

its not tasty

 

[_x11]

enough is literally all u need

Incorrect and unsustainable

wrong. u get too much, and just shit the rest out. u get what u need from cooked food too

you were just telling me earlier to consume more foods because cooked meat is "enough"

how the fuck are these unhealthy? smartest tiktok carnivore edits reposter

I don't use TikTok. Anyhow, these are unhealthy because they disrupt the gut with harmful mechanisms inside them. Some are neutral.

because raw meat isnt that healthy (meat in general fries ur cardiovascular system and raises the risk for cancer, btu raw meat also has parasites and salmonella or infections n shii)

We already discussed this. and no it doesn't "fry" your cardiovascular system.

they mostly do, and yes, most of them will effect u negtively

false

 

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bacteria then

Why's that bad?

 

[arniedagoats]

Incorrect and unsustainable

enough means its all u NEED

you were just telling me earlier to consume more foods because cooked meat is "enough"

enough if u compare it to raw meat, but even raw meat doesnt have every nutrient that u need

I don't use TikTok. Anyhow, these are unhealthy because they disrupt the gut with harmful mechanisms inside them. Some are neutral.

lie

We already discussed this. and no it doesn't "fry" your cardiovascular system.

it does

false

right

 

[germanicccccccc]

Btw I grew up eating steak tartare a lot