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Discussion How many Christians are real Christians

Yeah idk too much about Lutheran beliefs I don’t study Protestant belief systems much. Calvinism I am most knowledgeable on but I think people outside of orthodoxy can be saved in special cases I guess but it’s very rare.. imo you are best to follow orthodoxy, Jesus established a church on St.Peter and St.Peter established a Greek Orthodox Church in Antioch (because Antioch was a part of Greece at the time)
Everything (old) catholics believe except the pope and we are less strict during lent
 
Only real christians are the ones who go to my reformed lutheran baptist orthodox oriental non-denominational neo-papist proto-nestorian church.
 
I went frm christain to atheist to christain (I'm just coping with religion atp) also just because you're a christain doesn't mean you are sinless man that's the whole point ...
 
I went frm christain to atheist to christain (I'm just coping with religion atp) also just because you're a christain doesn't mean you are sinless man that's the whole point ...
Alot of these points are valid tho. You should try your best to follow your own religion no matter what it is
 
Wrong how?
The whole Trinity thing doesnt make sense to me. If God is independent then why was Jesus fully dependent on his mother when he was a baby
 
Love thy neighbor

Turns the other cheek

Welcoming

Follows the bible

Will die for God

Has fruits of the holy Spirit

Not bound by nation race or money

Prays for sinners

Worships God more than they use a phone

Spreads the gospel

How many Christians do you think do this not alot 99.99999% don't do this
"Not bound by nation race or money"

where'd you read this kike.
 
The whole Trinity thing doesnt make sense to me. If God is independent then why was Jesus fully dependent on his mother when he was a baby
Because Jesusbhas a dyothelitist nature.. his human nature was dependent on the holy Theotokos, not his divine nature.
 
What is this /pol/ actual jewish kike mossad level thread
 
The whole Trinity thing doesnt make sense to me. If God is independent then why was Jesus fully dependent on his mother when he was a baby
I can use the same argument against you. If God is independent then why was he dependent on Muhammad to give the Quran?

Ofc it’s not the exact same thing but it’s a decent enough analogy.
 
Because Jesusbhas a dyothelitist nature.. his human nature was dependent on the holy Theotokos, not his divine nature.
But he had both nature at all times right?
 
The whole Trinity thing doesnt make sense to me. If God is independent then why was Jesus fully dependent on his mother when he was a baby
Actually I have a better analogy..

If Allah is fully independent then why does he need the Quran in general? Most schools of thought in Islam deny the Quran as being Allah but they say al-Quran is uncreated. So you have two uncreated things but one is not Allah and Allah is dependent on Al-Quran to spread his message
 
stupid wquestion. there's no way to give an exact answer. formulate another question or drop this.
 
I can use the same argument against you. If God is independent then why was he dependent on Muhammad to give the Quran?

Ofc it’s not the exact same thing but it’s a decent enough analogy.
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so prophets shouldnt exist then?
 
The whole Trinity thing doesnt make sense to me. If God is independent then why was Jesus fully dependent on his mother when he was a baby
Who said he was
 
jesus loves u no matter what āœļø
what do u love???
forum??? jkcwakcjw?? mcdonalds???
lil nas x??? or more??? :peepoLove:
 
Love thy neighbor

Turns the other cheek

Welcoming

Follows the bible

Will die for God

Has fruits of the holy Spirit

Not bound by nation race or money

Prays for sinners

Worships God more than they use a phone

Spreads the gospel

How many Christians do you think do this not alot 99.99999% don't do thiit just makes me mad bro most of them have a bible verse and barely read the Bible or even go to church

Love thy neighbor

Turns the other cheek

Welcoming

Follows the bible

Will die for God

Has fruits of the holy Spirit

Not bound by nation race or money

Prays for sinners

Worships God more than they use a phone

Spreads the gospel

How many Christians do you think do this not alot 99.99999% don't do thi
it's annoying it those people with bible verses in their bio and don't even go to church that often or read the holy Bible
 
Actually I have a better analogy..

If Allah is fully independent then why does he need the Quran in general? Most schools of thought in Islam deny the Quran as being Allah but they say al-Quran is uncreated. So you have two uncreated things but one is not Allah and Allah is dependent on Al-Quran to spread his message
are u saying that Allah and The Quran are the same thing🤣🤣
 
are u saying that Allah and The Quran are the same thing🤣🤣
No im saying Islam argues they must be the same thing. Or else you have two things existing at the same time that are uncreated but one is not Allah.
 
so Jesus was fully god when he was completely dependent on his mother? or when he didnt know the hour, or when he got overpowered by his own creation.

What kind of God is this? How can he be fully self sufficient yet relied on food? this whole "2 Nature" concept is just some kind of "get out of jail free card" for Christians when getting asked about this
No im saying Islam argues they must be the same thing. Or else you have two things existing at the same time that are uncreated but one is not Allah.
no they dont. what we meant when we say The Quran is eternal is because Allah ALREADY knew it since the beginning.
Aisha argument has never been refuted btw šŸ’”
Read your own book bhai
 
so Jesus was fully god when he was completely dependent on his mother? or when he didnt know the hour, or when he got overpowered by his own creation.

What kind of God is this? How can he be fully self sufficient yet relied on food? this whole "2 Nature" concept is just some kind of "get out of jail free card" for Christians when getting asked about this

no they dont. what we meant when we say The Quran is eternal is because Allah ALREADY knew it since the beginning.

Read your own book bhai
Yes Jesus’ divine nature was fully God when his human nature was completely dependent on his mother. Yes his divine nature was fully God when his human nature didn’t know the hour. Yes his divine nature was fully God ā€œwhen he got overpowered by his own creationā€ (he didn’t get overpowered this is the prophecy of the new covenant a thousand years before his crucifixion). Can you tell me how any of those things are illogical or inconsistent or will you just make appeals to ridicule?

Allah does not ā€œknowā€ the Quran. The main schools of thoughts in Islam literally argue Al-Quran is one of his 99 attributes and Al-Quran is separate (not distinct but separate) to Allah yet is uncreated.

and look how you can’t defend your pedo prophet marrying a 6 year old and having sex with her when she was 9 (on account of Aisha in Bukhari 5134)

I’ve read my Holy Bible and I’ve read your Quran and a majority of your sahih hadiths that are relevant to apologetics. Don’t want to hear that bullshit
 
so Jesus was fully god when he was completely dependent on his mother? or when he didnt know the hour, or when he got overpowered by his own creation.

What kind of God is this? How can he be fully self sufficient yet relied on food? this whole "2 Nature" concept is just some kind of "get out of jail free card" for Christians when getting asked about this

no they dont. what we meant when we say The Quran is eternal is because Allah ALREADY knew it since the beginning.

Read your own book bhai
A reading from the book of Isiah. Isiah 53:5-7

ā€œBut he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.ā€

No this was not written during the time of Jesus, this was written 700 years before Jesus was crucified yet it is an exact account of both Christian theology and history. He was not overpowered, he was fulfilling the new covenant as the Bible says he would
 
Yes Jesus’ divine nature was fully God when his human nature was completely dependent on his mother. Yes his divine nature was fully God when his human nature didn’t know the hour. Yes his divine nature was fully God ā€œwhen he got overpowered by his own creationā€ (he didn’t get overpowered this is the prophecy of the new covenant a thousand years before his crucifixion). Can you tell me how any of those things are illogical or inconsistent or will you just make appeals to ridicule?
are u serious? This literally violates the rules of God. Look at Ibn Qayyims poem about Christ Worshippers just to give you an idea

Allah does not ā€œknowā€ the Quran. The main schools of thoughts in Islam literally argue Al-Quran is one of his 99 attributes and Al-Quran is separate (not distinct but separate) to Allah yet is uncreated.
The Quran is not counted among Allah's 99 names and attributes. NO SHIA OR SUNNI SCHOOL claims its one of his attributes. where did u get this from? I think you misunderstood it by how scholars distinguish his attribute of speech (Kalam)
and look how you can’t defend your pedo prophet marrying a 6 year old and having sex with her when she was 9 (on account of Aisha in Bukhari 5134)
how old was Mary when she married Joseph. or how old was Rebecca when she married Isaac?
 
are u serious? This literally violates the rules of God. Look at Ibn Qayyims poem about Christ Worshippers just to give you an idea


The Quran is not counted among Allah's 99 names and attributes. NO SHIA OR SUNNI SCHOOL claims its one of his attributes. where did u get this from? I think you misunderstood it by how scholars distinguish his attribute of speech (Kalam)

how old was Mary when she married Joseph. or how old was Rebecca when she married Isaac?

It does not violate ā€œthe rules of Godā€ what are you on about… applying Muslim theological rules to Christian theology isn’t a refutation to christology

And the Quran is literally kalam Allah bro. Go tell your imam that the Quran isn’t the word of Allah and see how that plays out for you lmfao. Shia, Sunni, maturidi, selafi, Quran onlyists, etc.. literally EVERY school of Islamic thought takes the Quran as the direct word(s) of Allah (kalam Allah). Because if kalam Allah is an attribute of Allah, and the Quran is kalam Allah. That means the Quran is

And you’re still not defending Aisha what is going on lmfao using a tu quoque is not refuting that Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old. Stay on track

(As in the picture linked literally the first thing that comes up from islamqa when looking up ā€œis the Quran an attribute of Allahā€ confirms that the Quran is an attribute of Allah. The fuck are you actually on about 😭)
 

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