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Listening to the music, that's it
I hate posers in general
Thats poser shit too NGL
wats classified as goth music?
"you ain't goth because you bump Billie Eilish and Suicideboys" im with you tho im just intrigued
sorry
Goth rock that devolves from post-punk, darkwave, neoclassical darkwave, deathrock, neofolk
im not goth but i listen to goth music? does that mean im GOTH!!???
Not necessarily, I myself don't call myself goth because I don't really like the visual gimmicks.
goth are disgusting btw no man should be attracted to them
U fuckin moron, it’s not just listening to the music. Even I’m not goth yet I know this. It has a political background to it
Why so ? I am completely against the sexualization of goth culture but calling it disgusting seems a bit harsh.
real. just makeup and poor diet
"Yeah yeah there's also politics" contrary to emo and punk, goth rock doesn't have a lot of political roots. Ofc you can't be a fascist and then proclaim to be goth.
Goth and alternative people are left wing
Fr just be actually goth like me a listen to nirvana and Radiohead both very niche and underground
They're not left or right wing they're fundamentally anti-system, they know it's all masquerade of democracy
How tf do you even have contributor ?
just write a guide
never had a bad take
i was told i couldn't be alt and not choice a party
I've done vro where's my contributor ?
I'll never switch on younever had a bad take
ask mods
Bullshit, both parties in the USA are right wing anyway
Yeah I've heard of that, I tried to get into that Visual Kei band named Aliene Mariage but couldn't find their music anywhere
I stopped being punk because was being forced leftist propaganda 24/7. i just wanna go in a mosh pit and hate the government
goth has become so massive that there's so many different versions.. Perhaps I would believe in gatekeeping if you went super niche into sub-genres, but the general goth culture totally has a fashion side that's partially detached from the music and ignoring that really solves nothing.
Also, some goth bands like Swans, Joy Division, Chelsea Wolfe, Current 93, HANL don't rely on goth fashion gimmicks at all. And that's without mentioning punk bands that later did goth rock stuff in their discography (Unwound, Daughters)
I think we have to accept that we've passed over the wild west era of the internet and subcultures can't exist off gatekeeping anymore. Even people who dress goth for sexual appeal have a valid connection to the subculture.
Thats the real punk spirit, not being a Democrat f*gI stopped being punk because was being forced leftist propaganda 24/7. i just wanna go in a mosh pit and hate the government
IK i thought punk was about was hating authority not wanting a stronger government
Gotta disagree with that last sentence, you can't put the people that actually care about the subculture in the same bag as those who only use the aesthetics for their gain.
It's a very strong opinion, and I would say it's unique to that relationship in a music-fashion subculture.
I also think one of the most poser things you could ever do is actively use the same rhetoric normies use against altenative folk "oh they look so basic they must be so boring", its so annoying and closeminded
Valid and thought-provoking
This is why I'm not into politics this hurts my head ngl
I just find it crazy how punks hate authority but yet side with the left that want a stronger government
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