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Rivers of Nihil said:
He's a dog of islam

His threads would be utter shit and I'd disprove them
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childishkillah

Another huge L for Trinity Christian copers.

Whenever people bring up the Trinity in the New Testament, they often point to a passage in the First Letter of John, chapter 5, verses 7 to 8. It’s usually quoted like this:

"For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the Water, and the Blood; and these three agree as one."

ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ
μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῷ
οὐρανῷ ὁ πατήρ ὁ
λόγος καὶ τὸ ἅγιον πνεῦμα καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσιν

At first glance, this sounds like the clearest reference to the Trinity in...
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Ok, disprove this one, go.
 
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GayGymMaxx said:
You agree your prophet is a sexually deviant rapist whom fucked a 9 year old prepubescent girl?
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No, since the hadiths are oral tradition compiled centuries later. Furthermore, historical records and other hadiths contradict it. And above all, contradict the doctrine of the Quran.
 
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Mormons, Jews, Muslims.....same shit with different names
Ngl. Being Islamic can even be good, u can have 3 wives lol
 
Rivers of Nihil said:
He's a dog of islam

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Mohammad is self proclaimed prophet who just happened to have more privileged then every other man (like having more wives), let’s not mention aisha and this incident with paki men in the desert

Like you can follow any religion you want but why you want others to follow it
 
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All religion sucks tbf
 
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BlendedBlade🧿 said:
Mohammad is self proclaimed prophet who just happened to have more privileged then every other man (like having more wives), let’s not mention aisha and this incident with paki men in the desert

Like you can follow any religion you want but why you want others to follow it
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Co-co-co-cope.
 
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childishkillah said:
childishkillah

Another huge L for Trinity Christian copers.

Whenever people bring up the Trinity in the New Testament, they often point to a passage in the First Letter of John, chapter 5, verses 7 to 8. It’s usually quoted like this:

"For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the Water, and the Blood; and these three agree as one."

ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ
μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῷ
οὐρανῷ ὁ πατήρ ὁ
λόγος καὶ τὸ ἅγιον πνεῦμα καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσιν

At first glance, this sounds like the clearest reference to the Trinity in...
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Posting it here and in the original thread so people see it

You tried to hang the entire Trinity on one sentence in 1 John. That is a red herring. The doctrine rests on the New Testament pattern where the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are named together in worship and mission. The baptismal formula in Matthew 28:19 gives one Name and three Persons. The Didache confirms that this is how the earliest church baptized. The benediction in 2 Corinthians 13:14 shows the same triadic structure in church life. These are public, first century practices, not medieval inventions.

The earliest Christians did not treat Jesus as only a prophet. Outsiders noted that Christians sang to Christ as to a god within decades of the apostles. Ignatius of Antioch explicitly calls Jesus “our God.” This testimony comes long before any councils. The claim that belief in the divinity of Christ was a late addition is false.

Your focus on the comma in 1 John 5 is a distraction. Even if it is removed, the core evidence remains untouched. The pillars are Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14, John 20:28, Hebrews 1:8, Acts 5, and the worship and baptismal practices of the earliest churches. These stand without the comma. That is why your argument is a red herring.

Jesus receives divine worship and titles. In John 20:28 Thomas says to Him, “My Lord and my God.” In Hebrews 1:8 the Son is addressed as “O God.” These are not fringe readings but appear in mainstream translations with scholarly notes. Jesus exercises divine prerogatives. He forgives sins on His own authority. He is appointed universal Judge. The Spirit is treated as both personal and divine. Lying to the Holy Spirit is lying to God in Acts 5:3–4. These are the direct claims of the texts.

The triune pattern is built into Christian worship from the beginning. Baptism is in one Name and three Persons. The church blesses in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit. This is not theory but first century practice.

The argument that the Bible is not preserved collapses under evidence. The New Testament is the best attested work of ancient literature. F. F. Bruce emphasized that nothing else from antiquity comes close to its wealth of textual evidence. Early papyri and fourth century codices align with remarkable consistency. For Luke and John, papyrus P75 and Codex Vaticanus agree in over ninety percent of variant readings. This is stability over centuries. Variants exist because thousands of manuscripts were copied, yet less than one percent of these variants are both meaningful and viable. None affect the central teachings of the faith. This is the consensus of scholars who collate the manuscripts. The church fathers quoted Scripture so extensively that the New Testament could be reconstructed from their writings alone. That is preservation in practice.

The quran enters six centuries later. The New Testament is a first century collection. The quran is seventh century. A later text cannot overrule earlier sources without circular reasoning. Historical method does not allow it.

Canonization of the quran was not smooth. Uthman enforced a standard text and ordered other codices destroyed. Companion codices did not always align with the standard. Ibn Masʿud resisted elements of the official list. Ubayy ibn Kaʿb had additional material. Reports mention verses no longer in the text, such as the stoning verse, which Islamic law still cites. Traditions describe abrogated recitations. The existence of multiple qira’at shows that the consonantal skeleton allowed different readings. This is acknowledged by Islamic sources themselves. The early transmission was not clean. It required enforcement and burning of copies to impose one version.

If you accept that this process counts as preservation, then you cannot attack Christians for having an open manuscript tradition where variants are visible rather than burned. The same standard must be applied both ways. Uthman’s actions prove that your text also faced serious variation.

Jesus never said the meme phrase “I am God, worship me.” He spoke as a first century Jew. He claimed the throne and authority of God, accepted worship, and was condemned for blasphemy. The New Testament authors call Him God and worship Him. This is how divine identity is expressed in those texts. John 20:28, Hebrews 1:8, Acts 5, Matthew 28:19, and 2 Corinthians 13:14 testify directly.

Answer these without evasion.

Is God’s Word eternal or created? If eternal, then there is plurality within God that is not polytheism.
Is God’s Spirit created or uncreated? If uncreated, then the same conclusion follows.
If you claim Christians corrupted their Scriptures, can you identify the exact words, the city, the date, the people, and the manuscript lines?
If Jesus was only a prophet, why did the earliest Christians worship Him and call Him God? Why did a Roman governor record that they sang to Him “as to a god”?
If the quran was uniform, why did codices have to be burned? Why is the stoning verse still cited in Islamic law yet absent from the text? Why do your own sources describe differences in Ibn Masʿud’s and Ubayy’s mushafs?

Even without the comma in 1 John 5, the evidence for the Trinity stands. The baptismal formula, the benediction, the worship, the divine titles, and the early practices all remain.

The New Testament is preserved, public, and rooted in the first century. The earliest Christians worshiped Jesus as God. One God, Father, Son, and Spirit. This is not a late invention. It is the consistent pattern of Scripture, worship, and devotion. To overturn this, you need first century evidence. A seventh century text, a red herring, and ignoring the standardization under Uthman will not achieve it.
 
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Rivers of Nihil said:
Posting it here and in the original thread so people see it

You tried to hang the entire Trinity on one sentence in 1 John. That is a red herring. The doctrine rests on the New Testament pattern where the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are named together in worship and mission. The baptismal formula in Matthew 28:19 gives one Name and three Persons. The Didache confirms that this is how the earliest church baptized. The benediction in 2 Corinthians 13:14 shows the same triadic structure in church life. These are public, first century practices, not medieval inventions.

The earliest Christians did not treat Jesus as only a prophet. Outsiders noted that Christians sang to Christ as to a god within decades of the apostles. Ignatius of Antioch explicitly calls Jesus “our God.” This testimony comes long before any councils. The claim that belief in the divinity of Christ was a late addition is false.

Your focus on the comma in 1 John 5 is a distraction. Even if it is removed, the core evidence remains untouched. The pillars are Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14, John 20:28, Hebrews 1:8, Acts 5, and the worship and baptismal practices of the earliest churches. These stand without the comma. That is why your argument is a red herring.

Jesus receives divine worship and titles. In John 20:28 Thomas says to Him, “My Lord and my God.” In Hebrews 1:8 the Son is addressed as “O God.” These are not fringe readings but appear in mainstream translations with scholarly notes. Jesus exercises divine prerogatives. He forgives sins on His own authority. He is appointed universal Judge. The Spirit is treated as both personal and divine. Lying to the Holy Spirit is lying to God in Acts 5:3–4. These are the direct claims of the texts.

The triune pattern is built into Christian worship from the beginning. Baptism is in one Name and three Persons. The church blesses in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit. This is not theory but first century practice.

The argument that the Bible is not preserved collapses under evidence. The New Testament is the best attested work of ancient literature. F. F. Bruce emphasized that nothing else from antiquity comes close to its wealth of textual evidence. Early papyri and fourth century codices align with remarkable consistency. For Luke and John, papyrus P75 and Codex Vaticanus agree in over ninety percent of variant readings. This is stability over centuries. Variants exist because thousands of manuscripts were copied, yet less than one percent of these variants are both meaningful and viable. None affect the central teachings of the faith. This is the consensus of scholars who collate the manuscripts. The church fathers quoted Scripture so extensively that the New Testament could be reconstructed from their writings alone. That is preservation in practice.

The quran enters six centuries later. The New Testament is a first century collection. The quran is seventh century. A later text cannot overrule earlier sources without circular reasoning. Historical method does not allow it.

Canonization of the quran was not smooth. Uthman enforced a standard text and ordered other codices destroyed. Companion codices did not always align with the standard. Ibn Masʿud resisted elements of the official list. Ubayy ibn Kaʿb had additional material. Reports mention verses no longer in the text, such as the stoning verse, which Islamic law still cites. Traditions describe abrogated recitations. The existence of multiple qira’at shows that the consonantal skeleton allowed different readings. This is acknowledged by Islamic sources themselves. The early transmission was not clean. It required enforcement and burning of copies to impose one version.

If you accept that this process counts as preservation, then you cannot attack Christians for having an open manuscript tradition where variants are visible rather than burned. The same standard must be applied both ways. Uthman’s actions prove that your text also faced serious variation.

Jesus never said the meme phrase “I am God, worship me.” He spoke as a first century Jew. He claimed the throne and authority of God, accepted worship, and was condemned for blasphemy. The New Testament authors call Him God and worship Him. This is how divine identity is expressed in those texts. John 20:28, Hebrews 1:8, Acts 5, Matthew 28:19, and 2 Corinthians 13:14 testify directly.

Answer these without evasion.

Is God’s Word eternal or created? If eternal, then there is plurality within God that is not polytheism.
Is God’s Spirit created or uncreated? If uncreated, then the same conclusion follows.
If you claim Christians corrupted their Scriptures, can you identify the exact words, the city, the date, the people, and the manuscript lines?
If Jesus was only a prophet, why did the earliest Christians worship Him and call Him God? Why did a Roman governor record that they sang to Him “as to a god”?
If the quran was uniform, why did codices have to be burned? Why is the stoning verse still cited in Islamic law yet absent from the text? Why do your own sources describe differences in Ibn Masʿud’s and Ubayy’s mushafs?

Even without the comma in 1 John 5, the evidence for the Trinity stands. The baptismal formula, the benediction, the worship, the divine titles, and the early practices all remain.

The New Testament is preserved, public, and rooted in the first century. The earliest Christians worshiped Jesus as God. One God, Father, Son, and Spirit. This is not a late invention. It is the consistent pattern of Scripture, worship, and devotion. To overturn this, you need first century evidence. A seventh century text, a red herring, and ignoring the standardization under Uthman will not achieve it.
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I'll leave you on DNR, right now I'm busy rotting
 
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what even is going on in this threas
 
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childishkillah said:
At the end of the day you're my bitch and I'll fuck you whenever I want.
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