Serious icnone roped

[Penalizer69]

Because it's more complicated than just that equation
Case Report of a Fatal Antifreeze Ingestion with a Record High Level and Impressive Renal Crystal Deposition - PMC https://share.google/1q8ASLIiauOYR4237
Ofc this is a record high case but it goes into detail of the mechanics and some other reporter cases

Tldr metabolic rate plays a large role in how deadly a substance like anti freeze is, making it ridiculously hard to kill yourself using it.

 

[UnconventionallyAutistic]

Because it's more complicated than just that equation
Case Report of a Fatal Antifreeze Ingestion with a Record High Level and Impressive Renal Crystal Deposition - PMC https://share.google/1q8ASLIiauOYR4237
Ofc this is a record high case but it goes into detail of the mechanics and some other reporter cases

"A 37-year-old man with a history of depression was found unresponsive at his home with two empty one-liter bottles of antifreeze and a suicide note nearby." yeah, the record high in this case is 2L of it, and the patient died 22h later after taken to care. i don't see your point, tbh

 

[Penalizer69]

"A 37-year-old man with a history of depression was found unresponsive at his home with two empty one-liter bottles of antifreeze and a suicide note nearby." yeah, the record high in this case is 2L of it, and the patient died 22h later after taken to care. i don't see your point, tbh

This case is remarkable for the amount of ethylene glycol consumed and an initial serum level of 1254 mg/dL, which is nearly 1.5 times higher than previously reported record high levels [3].

 

[UnconventionallyAutistic]

This case is remarkable for the amount of ethylene glycol consumed and an initial serum level of 1254 mg/dL, which is nearly 1.5 times higher than previously reported record high levels [3].

yeah, but ethylene glycol is not the substance what kills you. your body breaks it into other acids which are the lethal part of antifreeze. "Ethylene glycol, methanol, and diethylene glycol are readily available in many household and commercially available products. While these alcohols are relatively nontoxic themselves, their acidic metabolites are toxic and can result in significant morbidity and mortality." literally the first thing that is said

 

[Penalizer69]

yeah, but ethylene glycol is not the substance what kills you. your body breaks it into other acids which are the lethal part of antifreeze. "Ethylene glycol, methanol, and diethylene glycol are readily available in many household and commercially available products. While these alcohols are relatively nontoxic themselves, their acidic metabolites are toxic and can result in significant morbidity and mortality." literally the first thing that is said

I don't see how that changes anything, it still represents a figure to understand the lethal dosing range. Not to mention the mortality rate of presented cases is considered extremely low

 

[UnconventionallyAutistic]

I don't see how that changes anything, it still represents a figure to understand the lethal dosing range. Not to mention the mortality rate of presented cases is considered extremely low

yeah, but the story of this report is 2 bottles of 1-liter antifreeze. which is not a "megadose," and this case is the highest recorded one that is available.

the earlier screenshot you showed with lethal range of 1400mg-1600mg per kg for a 80kg man would be that 128g (higher value of that)

i'm not saying it is lethal all the time,but the lethal range is not some crazy jug. you can definitely die from 1 bottle

 

[Penalizer69]

yeah, but the story of this report is 2 bottles of 1-liter antifreeze. which is not a "megadose," and this case is the highest recorded one that is available.

the earlier screenshot you showed with lethal range of 1400mg-1600mg per kg for a 80kg man would be that 128g (higher value of that)

i'm not saying it is lethal all the time,but the lethal range is not some crazy jug. you can definitely die from 1 bottle

You can doesnt equate to likely hood like you said, and it only becomes less credible when you look at mortality rates with treatment.

 

[UnconventionallyAutistic]

You can doesnt equate to likely hood like you said, and it only becomes less credible when you look at mortality rates with treatment.

yeah, because the lethality comes from the other substances it metabolizes into, if you get to hospital they will block the conversion pathways of the chemicals (that's the cure). if you're left alone, you're kinda fucked

 

[Pinksunglasses]

it's probably my fault, I rejected him and was nice to him afterwards which was shitty of me I should've just ignored him

he told me he's killing himself and he told me how he did it and blocked me

it's probably my fault, I rejected him and was nice to him afterwards which was shitty of me I should've just ignored him

he told me he's killing himself and he told me how he did it and blocked me

How much he pay u to say this

 

[Penalizer69]

yeah, because the lethality comes from the other substances it metabolizes into, if you get to hospital they will block the conversion pathways of the chemicals (that's the cure). if you're left alone, you're kinda fucked

I doubt anyone would tolerate that pain that long for 1 and 2 you'd have to assume he'd be alone for the whole 24 to 48 hours with noone to call the ambulance or whoever else

You add all this together and there's genuinely a sub 0.01% chance this guy died or even attempted

 

[junebug]

How much he pay u to say this

bruh

 

[Pinksunglasses]

bruh

He prob doing the atra method sum1 gonna find him on Fortnite

 

[Penalizer69]

He prob doing the atra method sum1 gonna find him on Fortnite

Literally the reason he blocked her

Sub 80iq to fall for this

 

[miamigz]

I fucking hope so

wait would he actually do it?

 

[SevenColorCrystalBall]

Op is retarded you can't kys with anti freeze

Antifreeze can absolutely kill you, but its not fast acting and it's likely someone found him in the unlikely scenario that he wasn't bluffing

 

[miamigz]

Antifreeze can absolutely kill you, but its not fast acting and it's likely someone found him in the unlikely scenario that he wasn't bluffing

i think he would do the method with nitrogen gas and plastic bag its painless

 

[SevenColorCrystalBall]

bwuugghhg why woild he do that to someone he supposedly has a crush on

The dude's an unhinged motherfucker

 

[Penalizer69]

Antifreeze can absolutely kill you, but its not fast acting and it's likely someone found him in the unlikely scenario that he wasn't bluffing

Read above

 

[SevenColorCrystalBall]

Read above

Nope, and I still believe he didn't even do it

 

[junebug]

Literally the reason he blocked her

Sub 80iq to fall for this

I've literally never experienced someone roping because of me real or fake

no clue how to process the situation

he was a messed up dude I think he attempted before @SevenColorCrystalBall probably knows that a little better than I do

 

[SevenColorCrystalBall]

I've literally never experienced someone roping because of me real or fake

no clue how to process the situation

he was a messed up dude I think he attempted before @SevenColorCrystalBall probably knows that a little better than I do

I've weaponized suicide attempts and been on the recieving end of men doing the same, its very likely he's alive