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[tomahawk]

Its officially over. @Shkypot

 

[tomahawk]

@Blackpillirony @Nbernical

 

[foidslayer]

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Its officially over. @Shkypot

average jew

 

[tomahawk]

average jew

It was a 5yo too
He claims theres no objective morality

 

[foidslayer]

It was a 5yo too
He claims theres no objective morality

cause he doesnt believe in god, morality comes from rules of religion why can't people understand that

 

[Starlet]

It was a 5yo too
He claims theres no objective morality

Can’t even do the one thing he brags about right

 

[Shkypot]

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Its officially over. @Shkypot

Castarte him pleaseeee

 

[nate]

Thats why hes the goat the goat

 

[samsung]

Bring him back

 

[Almighty Sigma Wolf]

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Its officially over. @Shkypot

He's so high IQ bro I miss him even more now

 

[samsung]

He's so high IQ bro I miss him even more now

What about me

 

[</3]

Thats why hes the goat the goat

city boys

 

[Almighty Sigma Wolf]

What about me

Meh will never fill the gap he left

 

[Anna]

What a degen

 

[Deleted Member 85367]

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his face matches his statements

 

[trueceljester]

cause he doesnt believe in god, morality comes from rules of religion why can't people understand that

So if you're not religious your immoral?

 

[Deleted Member 46433]

so many .com and .org users are obsessed with r**e. like they think of a crime or something horrible and the first thing they consider is r**e.

even when its not the topic, it will be brought up. they even use it as a verb to imply that something was messed up. i think that is so weird

 

[rickydickydoodahgrimes]

so many .com and .org users are obsessed with r**e. like they think of a crime or something horrible and the first thing they consider is r**e.

even when its not the topic, it will be brought up. they even use it as a verb to imply that something was messed up. i think that is so weird

its a creepy little power fantasy
they get off to that idea of having such power over someone in such a degrading way because they lack power in real life
r**e is mostly about the control aspect, not about lust as one might usually think, hence why the victims can be anyone, from nuns to literal babies

 

[foidslayer]

So if you're not religious your immoral?

the rules and laws first started with religion, people before that did whatever because there were no moral rules before religions came along. the universal laws of "morality" are there because religion is

 

[foidlesschud]

morality comes from rules of religion

Fuh no

 

[Deleted Member 74605]

Theretard public hanging asap

 

[arzzey]

It was a 5yo too
He claims theres no objective morality

i mean, considering a world with just you in there there wouldnt be a morality

 

[foidslayer]

considering every single civilization was executing women for being smart before religion came btw

Fuh no

 

[Blackpillirony]

cause he doesnt believe in god, morality comes from rules of religion why can't people understand that

I don't think that's true, not every prayer is moral and most atheists have a minimum of moral basis that comes from culture and empathy. The ethical dichotomy between good and evil doesn't necessarily comes from religion but from species empathy and the thought "would I want this to happen to me/would I want to live in a society that allows this" ?

 

[foidslayer]

I don't think that's true, not every prayer is moral and most atheists have a minimum of moral basis that comes from culture and empathy. The ethical dichotomy between good and evil doesn't necessarily comes from religion but from species empathy and the thought "would I want this to happen to me/would I want to live in a society that allows this" ?

that cultural empathy thats been passed down through generation is a result from religions having taken over the world at some point, with islam, Christianity etc. which invoked the west civilizations to try and copy them to imitate their growth and success

 

[foidlesschud]

considering every single civilization was executing women for being smart before religion came btw

Are you retarded? Morals are subjective. If morals were objective we would have always had the opinions on everything but we do not. In the ancient times women were stoned to death for cheating but that does not happen now. Would a person born on the north sentinel island have the same worldview and morals as a teenager in america?

Morals always evolve, if they were objective they would not change because how can god change his opinion

 

[foidslayer]

Are you retarded? Morals are subjective. If morals were objective we would have always had the opinions on everything but we do not. In the ancient times women were stoned to death for cheating but that does not happen now. Would a person born on the north sentinel island have the same worldview and morals as a teenager in america?

Morals always evolve, if they were objective they would not change because how can god change his opinion

is killing someone innocent wrong? now tell me how morals are subjective

 

[Blackpillirony]

that cultural empathy thats been passed down through generation is a result from religions having taken over the world at some point in islam, which invoked the west civilizations to try and copy them to imitate their growth and success

Islam is mainly influenced by Judaism and Christianity to begin with who already instaured ethical bases with the 12 commandments and allat. And even then most Jews, Christians and Muslims follow the word of God not out of faith but out of fear of burning in Hell and the promise of paradise.

 

[giga.mia]

its a creepy little power fantasy
they get off to that idea of having such power over someone in such a degrading way because they lack power in real life
r**e is mostly about the control aspect, not about lust as one might usually think, hence why the victims can be anyone, from nuns to literal babies

 

[foidlesschud]

is killing someone innocent wrong? now tell me how morals are subjective

A serial killer could answer no to that question. That goes on to show that morals are subjective. You can not have one united view on morals, it is impossible and for that reason morals are subjective

 

[foidslayer]

Islam is mainly influenced by Judaism and Christianity to begin with who already instaured ethical bases with the 12 commandments and allat. And even then most Jews, Christians and Muslims follow the word of God not out of faith but out of fear of burning in Hell and the promise of paradise.

lets say you meet with a religion person who tries his best to be the best person possible, you'll feel safer and you'll feel the kindness that their heart invokes. Doing the right thing in a religion isnt mainly out of fearing god, we love god and he gave us all the blessings we have. But if there wasn't punishment for the bad there wouldn't be anything seperating the good from the bad. For example: you get straight A's and your parents buy you a new computer as a reward, or you get straight F's and your parents beat you. Doesn't mean you're getting straight A's to not get beat it's mainly to get the new computer

 

[rickydickydoodahgrimes]

considering every single civilization was executing women for being smart before religion came btw

if ur talking about the witch trails yes religion was the biggest aspect of why this happened, the term 'witch' means a woman who has sould her soul to the devil which inheritly comes from religion
there has always been morals since the dawn of time, the reason why we hate murderers and dont go out and murder is cos in the caveman times, if u go around murdering members of ur tribe ur gonna get taken care of or kicked out n left behind yk ?
i say this as a catholic btw so i do see where ur coming from

 

[foidslayer]

A serial killer could answer no to that question. That goes on to show that morals are subjective. You can not have one united view on morals, it is impossible and for that reason morals are subjective

Morals arent subjective, a serial killer would have to be a psychopath; meaning his brain doesnt function as ours which means his morals arent the same as the normal human morals

 

[Blackpillirony]

lets say you meet with a religion person who tries his best to be the best person possible, you'll feel safer and you'll feel the kindness that their heart invokes.

Same way with an atheist or an agnostic who believes in humanity and genuinely wants to help the people around him.

Doing the right thing in a religion isnt mainly out of fearing god, we love god and he gave us all the blessings we have. But if there wasn't punishment for the bad there wouldn't be anything seperating the good from the bad.

You shouldn't be doing what's "good" because there's a reward or avoid doing what's "bad" because there's a punishment that follows it. You should do what you believe to be good because you inherently believe that's the best thing you can do in this world.

For example: you get straight A's and your parents buy you a new computer as a reward, or you get straight F's and your parents beat you. Doesn't mean you're getting straight A's to not get beat it's mainly to get the new computer

Your exemple doesn't have much to do with morality, and I believe academic success shouldn't translate to rewards anyways. I'm not saying religion is for shit, most believers in the Jew, Christian and Muslim communities I believe to be decent people but morality doesn't necessarily comes from religion itself in an historical perspective.

 

[foidslayer]

if ur talking about the witch trails yes religion was the biggest aspect of why this happened, the term 'witch' means a woman who has sould her soul to the devil which inheritly comes from religion
there has always been morals since the dawn of time, the reason why we hate murderers and dont go out and murder is cos in the caveman times, if u go around murdering members of ur tribe ur gonna get taken care of or kicked out n left behind yk ?
i say this as a catholic btw so i do see where ur coming from

I dont do that much research on religion (i respect everyones religion) but in Islam their rules were made to protect women, to give them status and rights and for them to be recognized as humans too. It also stopped the murder of women just out of shame (like they did back before islam)

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

Pathetic.

 

[rickydickydoodahgrimes]

I dont do that much research on religion (i respect everyones religion) but in Islam their rules were made to protect women, to give them status and rights and for them to be recognized as humans too. It also stopped the murder of women just out of shame (like they did back before islam)

true but still, religion can be twisted and used as a weapon to cause insane harm aka the witch trials
it all depends on the persons take away from reading the bible or qua'ran etc

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

true but still, religion can be twisted and used as a weapon to cause insane harm aka the witch trials
it all depends on the persons take away from reading the bible or qua'ran etc

They are hereticks. If you take the Father's word in vain then you will pay for it after death.

 

[foidlesschud]

Morals arent subjective, a serial killer would have to be a psychopath; meaning his brain doesnt function as ours which means his morals arent the same as the normal human morals

Which would mean that there can not be a universally objective view on morality

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

Which would mean that there can not be a universally objective view on morality

If I violently r***d your female family members and then lopped off each of your fingers right after for no reason beyond simple malice and sadism, would you consider that not an objective evil?

 

[foidslayer]

Same way with an atheist or an agnostic who believes in humanity and genuinely wants to help the people around him.

You shouldn't be doing what's "good" because there's a reward or avoid doing what's "bad" because there's a punishment that follows it. You should do what you believe to be good because you inherently believe that's the best thing you can do in this world.

Your exemple doesn't have much to do with morality, and I believe academic success shouldn't translate to rewards anyways. I'm not saying religion is for shit, most believers in the Jew, Christian and Muslim communities I believe to be decent people but morality doesn't necessarily comes from religion itself in an historical perspective.

I get what you’re saying, and i understand where you're coming from. Genuine morality is about believing something is right in itself and choosing it freely. An atheist or agnostic who sincerely wants to help others is just as morally serious as any religious person.

Where I’d slightly differ is on the historical side. While morality doesn’t have to come from religion on a personal level, religion has played the main role in shaping the moral frameworks and legal systems we live under today. In early societies, religion was one of the only widely accepted authorities strong enough to establish shared rules about murder, theft, justice, care for the poor, family structure, and human dignity.

Concepts like the inherent worth of a human life, moral accountability, and limits on power were often justified and protected through religious worldviews long before secular humanism existed as a formal philosophy.

So I don’t think morality belings to religion, but historically, religion provided the foundation and social glue that allowed moral norms to stabilize and spread across civilizations. Without that early religious grounding, we probably wouldn’t have developed the same kind of human protective rules and laws and "morality" as early or as widely as we did.

TLDR: I agree that athiest can be moral but you can't deny that religion is the historicsl event that invoked "morality"

 

[LaWi]

Imagine carrying a baby for 9 months just for it to become whatever this is

 

[</3]

If I violently r***d your female family members and then lopped off each of your fingers right after for no reason beyond simple malice and sadism, would you consider that not an objective evil?

b-but

 

[foidslayer]

true but still, religion can be twisted and used as a weapon to cause insane harm aka the witch trials
it all depends on the persons take away from reading the bible or qua'ran etc

i agree with you, but these people are outliers and dont really represent the beauty of religions such as Islam and Christianity

 

[Blackpillirony]

I get what you’re saying, and i understand where you're coming from. Genuine morality is about believing something is right in itself and choosing it freely. An atheist or agnostic who sincerely wants to help others is just as morally serious as any religious person.

Where I’d slightly differ is on the historical side. While morality doesn’t have to come from religion on a personal level, religion has played the main role in shaping the moral frameworks and legal systems we live under today. In early societies, religion was one of the only widely accepted authorities strong enough to establish shared rules about murder, theft, justice, care for the poor, family structure, and human dignity.

Concepts like the inherent worth of a human life, moral accountability, and limits on power were often justified and protected through religious worldviews long before secular humanism existed as a formal philosophy.

So I don’t think morality belings to religion, but historically, religion provided the foundation and social glue that allowed moral norms to stabilize and spread across civilizations. Without that early religious grounding, we probably wouldn’t have developed the same kind of human protective rules and laws and "morality" as early or as widely as we did.

TLDR: I agree that athiest can be moral but you can't deny that religion is the historicsl event that invoked "morality"

More like instaured and concretized laws I'll admit.

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

b-but

I genuinely cannot stand the false intelligence of these moral arguements. There is none to be had, there is good and evil. It is not hard to understand, why complicate drinking water and not drinking it? Only an idiot would. Once you greyscale the whole reality, then what reality is there? That only happens when you are not living any life or are nothing.

 

[foidslayer]

More like instaured and concretized laws I'll admit.

this is probably the only high iq discussion anyone has ever had in this forum

 

[rickydickydoodahgrimes]

i agree with you, but these people are outliers and dont really represent the beauty of religions such as Islam and Christianity

i wouldnt call it an outlier but i get u
the influx of men i have seen just joining catholicism to get a catholic girl (virgin) is utterly insane, met one in my church
who'd ever guess we'd have larping catholics

 

[foidslayer]

i wouldnt call it an outlier but i get u
the influx of men i have seen just joining catholicism to get a catholic girl (virgin) is utterly insane, met one in my church
who'd ever guess we'd have larping catholics

yeah i dont get joining a religion if you don't believe in it

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

i agree with you, but these people are outliers and dont really represent the beauty of religions such as Islam and Christianity