Not everyone can have a good easy life

[3links2]

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[The cat from The Matrix]

If everyone did it wouldn't be considered good or easy

 

[3links2]

If everyone did it wouldn't be considered good or easy

I disagree, there is enough wealth technology and resources in the world for everyone to not work 40 hour weeks and scrape by barely
100 years ago we could barely grow food for sustenance and there wasn't robots mass manufacturing things for us yet 100 years later the top 1% own a larger share of global wealth than they ever have

 

[The cat from The Matrix]

I disagree, there is enough wealth technology and resources in the world for everyone to not work 40 hour weeks and scrape by barely
100 years ago we could barely grow food for sustenance and there wasn't robots mass manufacturing things for us yet 100 years later the top 1% own a larger share of global wealth than they ever have

But the elites don't want that

 

[RhodoniteRed]

But the elites don't want that

Also that would cause problems as people would abuse social security and have done so before, plus natural resources aren't as abundant as we'd like to think so we'd eventually hit a point of famine

 

[Sovvton]

i will have one tho

 

[3links2]

Also that would cause problems as people would abuse social security and have done so before, plus natural resources aren't as abundant as we'd like to think so we'd eventually hit a point of famine

That's a lie to keep you working
People would work cause they want to, not cause they have to
90% of the j*bs in the west are useless bloat our economy is already mature we don't need to do everything by hand anymore. Other than civil and public services there's no need to work to have society running correctly. This is why China caught up to the us economy so easily we're really just a high time preference society with fake j*bs that barely output any real value

 

[RhodoniteRed]

That's a lie to keep you working
People would work cause they want to, not cause they have to
90% of the j*bs in the west are useless bloat our economy is already mature we don't need to do everything by hand anymore. Other than civil and public services there's no need to work to have society running correctly. This is why China caught up to the us economy so easily we're really just a high time preference society with fake j*bs that barely output any real value

We'd still run into issues with scarcity and bad ecological management, and also China has actively done its best to secure a lot of those things such as forests we need so that we can't ever take them outselves. Plus a lot of people are inclined to hoard things and be corrupt when given the power to do so.

 

[pompompurino]

i don’t think millionaires should exist when there’s people suffering, everyone should be able to live a stable/good life imo

 

[3links2]

We'd still run into issues with scarcity and bad ecological management, and also China has actively done its best to secure a lot of those things such as forests we need so that we can't ever take them outselves

Scarcity is not like you think
It's fake and manufactured
There's enough on earth for legit every country to be econonically developed with T1 infrastructure, it seems crazy but that's cause all you know is the modern financial system where governments can print money with nothing backing it and dilute everything in circulation

 

[RhodoniteRed]

Scarcity is not like you think
It's fake and manufactured
There's enough on earth for legit every country to be econonically developed with T1 infrastructure, it seems crazy but that's cause all you know is the modern financial system where governments can print money with nothing backing it and dilute everything in circulation

We could probably go around it if we actually invested into sustainable practices, although a lot of people also need things like j*bs and routines to feel like they have a purpose

 

[3links2]

We could probably go around it if we actually invested into sustainable practices, although a lot of people also need things like j*bs and routines to feel like they have a purpose

I assure you the people working in factories, warehouses, retail, business admin, office work, etc. Do not feel a sense of purpose in their work

The point is people would go into fields theyre interested in and work cause they desire to, not cause they have to. Entire economies can be specialized in certain fields, you import the things you need and export your highly specialized goods that the rest of the world needs. This way technological developments happen quicker and you're not producing stuff you're shit at making when you can just import it cheaper

This is exactly how the u.s and japan got so wealthy in the 20th century, and what China is doing right now. Every country can do this. If we're not under the current scam financial system that steals wealth

 

[RhodoniteRed]

I assure you the people working in factories, warehouses, retail, business admin, office work, etc. Do not feel a sense of purpose in their work

The point is people would go into fields theyre interested in and work cause they desire to, not cause they have to. Entire economies can be specialized in certain fields, you import the things you need and export your highly specialized goods that the rest of the world needs. This way technological developments happen quicker and you're not producing stuff you're shit at making when you can just import it cheaper

They need something of a routine, though not one full of tasks they hate such as filing paper work that a bot could do with much more efficiency

 

[3links2]

They need something of a routine, though not one full of tasks they hate such as filing paper work that a bot could do with much more efficiency

"They need a routine"
This is legit what they think of us
By they I mean the owning class, the rest of us are slaves
Yea and the people who currently don't work and just own means of production don't need routine either?
Fake
You don't need to be working a 9-5 to create value for society
Most 9-5's don't even create value anyways

 

[RhodoniteRed]

"They need a routine"
This is legit what they think of us
By they I mean the owning class, the rest of us are slaves
Yea and the people who currently don't work and just own means of production don't need routine either?
Fake
You don't need to be working a 9-5 to create value for society
Most 9-5's don't even create value anyways

Oh right, I forgot that most people actually know how to fill time and have genuine hobbies and interests jfl

 

[Spuffy]

I disagree, there is enough wealth technology and resources in the world for everyone to not work 40 hour weeks and scrape by barely
100 years ago we could barely grow food for sustenance and there wasn't robots mass manufacturing things for us yet 100 years later the top 1% own a larger share of global wealth than they ever have

hey, you would like this guy named karl marx

 

[RhodoniteRed]

hey, you would like this guy named karl marx

Karl Marx was a scammer btw

 

[Spuffy]

Karl Marx was a scammer btw

how so

 

[shredded4summer]

Also that would cause problems as people would abuse social security and have done so before, plus natural resources aren't as abundant as we'd like to think so we'd eventually hit a point of famine

the earth recycles itself so this wouldnt be a problem for those who live naturally

 

[RhodoniteRed]

the earth recycles itself so this wouldnt be a problem for those who live naturally

If people had that kind of support they'd likely not live naturally, plus most don't have the discipline to stick to it if they have the option of modern conveniences

 

[3links2]

hey, you would like this guy named karl marx

Ur not funny
Ironic for a slave to be saying this

 

[RhodoniteRed]

how so

Horrible understanding of economics and often lived off of other people

 

[3links2]

If people had that kind of support they'd likely not live naturally, plus most don't have the discipline to stick to it if they have the option of modern conveniences

He means people being fat asses and eating too much and wasting food and throwing everything out in the bin like we do in the usa

 

[RhodoniteRed]

He means people being fat asses and eating too much and wasting food and throwing everything out in the bin like we do in the usa

People don't have has much discipline as you think, they'll continue doing that if they are allowed to even if they know its wrong plus a lot of tech is inherently demanding to run

 

[3links2]

People don't have has much discipline as you think, they'll continue doing that if they are allowed to even if they know its wrong plus a lot of tech is inherently demanding to run

That's just an American thing
Europe and east Asia don't have these issues

Also in part because we are an ultra high time-preference society

 

[RhodoniteRed]

That's just an American thing
Europe and east Asia don't have these issues

Also in part because we are an ultra high time-preference society

Yeah America is very weird about food and tends to put it on a pedastal

 

[pompompurino]

Yeah America is very weird about food and tends to put it on a pedastal

they pump it with fuck tons of sugars and sodium to keep people addicted, also tons of depressed and lonely ppl find comfort in junk food

 

[RhodoniteRed]

they pump it with fuck tons of sugars and sodium to keep people addicted, also tons of depressed and lonely ppl find comfort in junk food

Also the attitude many people (even those with natural diets) have which encourages you to obsess over junkfood either because you can't have it but still want it or because its so enjoyable

 

[shredded4summer]

they pump it with fuck tons of sugars and sodium to keep people addicted, also tons of depressed and lonely ppl find comfort in junk food

this is lowk a myth. pump what with sugar bro? suprise suprise cocacola and junk food has sugar in it? is that a surprise

 

[RhodoniteRed]

this is lowk a myth. pump what with sugar bro? suprise suprise cocacola and junk food has sugar in it? is that a surprise

Sometimes they get absolutely ridiculous with the amount of sugar in it, like they'll add in so much that you can't even taste what flavor its supposed to be imitating and it leaves an aftertaste in your mouth if u don't brush ur teeth

 

[shredded4summer]

Sometimes they get absolutely ridiculous with the amount of sugar in it, like they'll add in so much that you can't even taste what flavor its supposed to be imitating and it leaves an aftertaste in your mouth if u don't brush ur teeth

so what? thats not what makes it inherently bad. honey is 85% sugar and i still eat it

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

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water bud

 

[RhodoniteRed]

so what? thats not what makes it inherently bad. honey is 85% sugar and i still eat it

Its refined sugar which is wayyy more harmful and addictive

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

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Life is what it is, whether it's bad or good. Death or life, we are all weak creatures in the end yk? inb4 cope but yea some people have a better life than you objectively, doesnt really matter because you cant control it. Either live your life to what you can, deal with your copes and what you like and accept it or rope.

 

[shredded4summer]

Its refined sugar which is wayyy more harmful and addictive

i know that. my point is that "pumping it with sugar" sounds dumb asf and i hate when americans act like they are sneaking it into the food when its pretty obvious what has sugar and what doesnt

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

If everyone did it wouldn't be considered good or easy

Life needs humans who live the worst, best and intermediate on the spectrum.Most ppl wont accept an existence "subpar" to a goodlifer, even if literally what that goodlifer has wont really fulfill u bc ur prob ND and like niche topics. Life will balance itself and no this doesnt mean karma or justice, there is no justice. It is just the way the world works.

 

[RhodoniteRed]

i know that. my point is that "pumping it with sugar" sounds dumb asf and i hate when americans act like they are sneaking it into the food when its pretty obvious what has sugar and what doesnt

They treat sugar like legalized crack and refuse to be accountable

 

[3links2]

Life needs humans who live the worst, best and intermediate on the spectrum.Most ppl wont accept an existence "subpar" to a goodlifer, even if literally what that goodlifer has wont really fulfill u bc ur prob ND and like niche topics. Life will balance itself and no this doesnt mean karma or justice, there is no justice. It is just the way the world works.

Cope
I don't blame you though
You have to make it make sense otherwise u lose ur mind
There is no reason for suffering

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

Cope
I don't blame you though
You have to make it make sense otherwise u lose ur mind
There is no reason for suffering

Many animals suffer and many animals live great lives due to their genes, luck, circumstances. Why are we any different bc of our societies and sentience? Many ppl rely on their biological instincts for example: during a smool shmooting. Yet there isnt really a way to push against it. Those animals, both who lived great and bad lives mean literally nothing, so do us. It's only really what matters in our lifetime tho, and maybe some future generations. By your no reason for suffering I do agree, I think it's more just a way that life is to be, a lot of us are unlucky with what we are given and many people are just byproducts of what life is whilst the top percentile of humans live great lives.

 

[pompompurino]

this is lowk a myth. pump what with sugar bro? suprise suprise cocacola and junk food has sugar in it? is that a surprise

there’s a difference between naturally occurring sugars and added refined sugars like high fructose corn syrup. it’s not that there are sugars, it’s the TYPE of sugars. natural sugars like fruits come with fiber, vitamins, and minerals which help the body process them differently. the food ‘pumped’ with sugars that I mentioned don’t contain those. where’s the ‘myth?’

 

[pompompurino]

i know that. my point is that "pumping it with sugar" sounds dumb asf and i hate when americans act like they are sneaking it into the food when its pretty obvious what has sugar and what doesnt

holy fuck. why are you taking my message so head on, did you want me to make a whole deep dive? it’s clear that I meant non-natural sugars.

 

[shredded4summer]

holy fuck. why are you taking my message so head on, did you want me to make a whole deep dive? it’s clear that I meant non-natural sugars.

Don’t pmo

 

[pompompurino]

Don’t pmo

YOU pmo all the fucking time

 

[shredded4summer]

YOU pmo all the fucking time

I’m sorry <3

 

[Spuffy]

Horrible understanding of economics and often lived off of other people

Yeah ur right but it's what this person's ideas are lining up with

 

[Spuffy]

Ur not funny
Ironic for a slave to be saying this

Hey I'm just saying that everything you said match what he believes in

 

[ratedLTN2]

People writing paragraphs like we give a fuck