@over0

[RandomUser4591]

@over0 if the jaw appears wider than the cheekbones, do you want to surgically reduce the width of the jaw with mandibular shaving or increase the width of the zygos with implants? Is there a universal answer or does it truly depend on the face and ratios?

 

[limo8]

over-gpt

 

[over0]

Depends on face. If you have flat or weak zygos then implants would be ideal, if not then shaving would likely be better

 

[RandomUser4591]

over-gpt

Looksmaxx gpt lies to me and says I am better looking than I am, and somehow thinks reducing midface subcutaneous fat (will require getting super lean and be dependent on my genetic fat distribution as I am unaware of surgery that will reduce face in this area) will make me pop-out with zygos!

 

[RandomUser4591]

Looksmaxx gpt lies to me and says I am better looking than I am, and somehow thinks reducing midface subcutaneous fat (will require getting super lean and be dependent on my genetic fat distribution as I am unaware of surgery that will reduce face in this area) will make me pop-out with zygos!

@diphenhydramine (RIP) said my zygos are not recessed but I have a deep canine fossa so I will have to shred even harder

 

[princeps]

depends on esr,

 

[RandomUser4591]

depends on esr,

0.479, it's joever?

 

[princeps]

0.479, it's joever?

not at all a bit on the high side but not bad

 

[RandomUser4591]

not at all a bit on the high side but not bad

My bigonial to bizygomatic ratio is 0.970x, the tool I used which pops out the correct ratios says 0.86x to 0.94x is the ideal range, so I am not sure why it flagged 0.970x as a deviation from the ideal?

 

[princeps]

My bigonial to bizygomatic ratio is 0.970x, the tool I used which pops out the correct ratios says 0.86x to 0.94x is the ideal range, so I am not sure why it flagged 0.970x as a deviation from the ideal?

its a slight deviation but really what matters is how harmonious your face is, are your other ratios good

 

[RandomUser4591]

its a slight deviation but really what matters is how harmonious your face is, are your other ratios good

My worst ratios actually involve my chin the most (eye separation ratio is not good though). I have a very tall chin, 3.263x chin-to-philtrum ratio, my bottom third is 43.872% of my face, whereas my top third is only 26.975% of my face and my middle third is 29.149% of my face; I suspect the long-chin might also make my jaw frontal angle slightly out of wack by making my jaw look steeper but it's still 83.778 degrees, only a 6.9% deviation from the minimum ideal of 84.5. My midface ratio is 1.074 which I think is fine (and could be a lot worth given my theory that tall men have brutal mid faces) and my FWHR is 1.801 which I also think is fine. However, the lower third also destroys my Total FWHR which is 1.515x

I almost wonder if vertical reduction genioplasty is the move as it could improve a bunch of my ratios and improve my facial proportions

 

[Knight]

Yah shave bro so your jaw becomes completely narrow
Zygos and mandible

 

[princeps]

My worst ratios actually involve my chin the most (eye separation ratio is not good though). I have a very tall chin, 3.263x chin-to-philtrum ratio, my bottom third is 43.872% of my face, whereas my top third is only 26.975% of my face and my middle third is 29.149% of my face; I suspect the long-chin might also make my jaw frontal angle slightly out of wack by making my jaw look steeper but it's still 83.778 degrees, only a 6.9% deviation from the minimum ideal of 84.5. My midface ratio is 1.074 which I think is fine (and could be a lot worth given my theory that tall men have brutal mid faces) and my FWHR is 1.801 which I also think is fine. However, the lower third also destroys my Total FWHR which is 1.515x

I almost wonder if vertical reduction genioplasty is the move as it could improve a bunch of my ratios and improve my facial proportions

you should probably shave the chin down, but also do you fit the hypermasculine or pretty boy archatype better?

 

[RandomUser4591]

you should probably shave the chin down, but also do you fit the hypermasculine or pretty boy archatype better?

Cutecel archetype

 

[princeps]

Cutecel archetype

shave jaw first then, hypermasculine archatpes can benifit from having overdeveloped chins tho

 

[Knight]

Send your face in pm or don’t listen to anything

 

[RandomUser4591]

Yah shave bro so your jaw becomes completely narrow
Zygos and mandible

I think bone shaving can be a valid solution depending on the case. Implants can often look uncanny and fake

 

[Knight]

I think bone shaving can be a valid solution depending on the case. Implants can often look uncanny and fake

For women maybe

 

[RandomUser4591]

For women maybe

Might be a valid solution for men as well though esp. in severe asymmetries cases not solvable by traditional jaw surgery, for example if there is excess bone growth of the gonial angle on one side

 

[AJis18]

shave jaw first then, hypermasculine archatpes can benifit from having overdeveloped chins tho

I've been thinking about slight having for me also at some point tbh

 

[princeps]

I think bone shaving can be a valid solution depending on the case. Implants can often look uncanny and fake

realisticly send photo in pm so ppl can see what you need

 

[AJis18]

Jaw shaving

 

[RandomUser4591]

realisticly send photo in pm so ppl can see what you need

I need to fix face fat and uee the rest of this is just fantasy

 

[Knight]

severe asymmetries cases

Is that your case ?

 

[RandomUser4591]

Is that your case ?

That is me in PFP, judge for yourself

 

[princeps]

I need to fix face fat and uee the rest of this is just fantasy

jfl me too but it think uee is only by surgery

 

[Knight]

That is me in PFP, judge for yourself

Consider loosing weight first

 

[RandomUser4591]

jfl me too but it think uee is only by surgery

For me I just need to get a fat graft up there, not sure what the cause of your UEE is, I just have bad fat stores in my upper eyelids

 

[princeps]

For me I just need to get a fat graft up there, not sure what the cause of your UEE is, I just have bad fat stores in my upper eyelids

Bad phrasing I have big fat pads on my cheekbones but hooded eyes

 

[RandomUser4591]

Consider loosing weight first

Ok bhai

 

[RandomUser4591]

Bad phrasing I have big fat pads on my cheekbones but hooded eyes

so for you, you have hooded eyes so the issue is the fat pads on cheekbones?

 

[princeps]

so for you, you have hooded eyes so the issue is the fat pads on cheekbones?

yes i need to lose weight lol

 

[RandomUser4591]

yes i need to lose weight lol

Hopefully doing that helps you brother! Make sure to have some muscle on your frame too, you don't wanna cut and look malnourished!

 

[princeps]

Hopefully doing that helps you brother! Make sure to have some muscle on your frame too, you don't wanna cut and look malnourished!

thats true but I dont really want to lose weight because I dont want to stunt my already short self

 

[emma.vllnt]

def implants/filler
never seen someone who needs bone shaving

 

[RandomUser4591]

def implants/filler
never seen someone who needs bone shaving

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This guy looks better after imo

 

[RandomUser4591]

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This guy looks better after imo

 

[princeps]

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This guy looks better after imo

before kinda looks like acromegly but im not doctor

 

[RandomUser4591]

before kinda looks like acromegly but im not doctor

Sounds like a good condition from a psl perspective

 

[princeps]

Sounds like a good condition from a psl perspective

in theory but it is impossible to dose and often results in completely unbalanced bone growth with overdeveloped chins and more growth on one side, resulting in a sort of ogre look