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Experience People try to pin you down when they cannot logically discuss with you

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They try to pin you down to an idea, or a person to attack you with, instead of discussing the points.

The story I will share is one when I was in a vegan server, and I was losing a debate badly. I was getting schooled on the prowess of epidemiology, and how it is much more significant than the stories that I tell or the logic/reasoning/ mechanistic functions I list.
Anyways, this guy sent a podcast.
Instead of arguing my points with sources and points, i observe the channel he sent me. (was on my phone so not mentally ascended, obviously this is a joke, but it does make it more difficult to rationally process studies and information on a phone, and sourcing the information to send to people), but I located the word bioenergetics on this guy's page. Immediately, I jumped to Ray Peat. While this guy was absolutely destroying me about epistemology, I attacked. I called him a sugar eating quack, who has high cortisol from consuming slave harvested sugar cane. I used repeated ad hominems, ridiculous amount of them at that. I felt I had pinned him down. I also pinned him down to Dr. Greger, who warns against endotoxins and AGEs in meat (topic for another day), and I insulted Dr. Greger and used him against this guy, calling him a balding plant consuming slave subhuman.

Now, I realize this is wrong. It's a certain defense mechanism when you can't form logical arguments, you feel beat by this person you have no comprehension of, so you use people similar to them to stand a chance.

Another example, is people doing this to me on the forum. @notsocommonthumb and @Korea , are quick to label me as a GODtis consuming subhuman, with no rational thought or critical thinking of my own. It seems to them that I have went through one brainwashing (bluepilling, normie advice) to Goatis brainwashing (blackpilling, muh raw meat fixes your life, blood is euphoria n shieet).

I also did this to someone else, can't rememeber but a regrettable action as well.

Anyways, this is something for me to improve and for others too. Evaluate the person for who they are and their thoughts, and don't use similar figures against them.
@ey88
 
Vegans are just screeching creatures.
they tell you “don’t eat meat” but it’s the same as if you tell a lion or a tiger the same thing.
They don’t have any logic at all and are unreasonable.
Live,laugh,ragebait vegans.
 
Vegans are just screeching creatures.
they tell you “don’t eat meat” but it’s the same as if you tell a lion or a tiger the same thing.
They don’t have any logic at all and are unreasonable.
Live,laugh,ragebait vegans.
Nah this one guy in particular destroyed me in all honesty.

I did much better against him like a week or two after though, he was a professional debater
 
I am not going to read this atm, but you cant be mad when you cant even provide a single Source and your argument is “natural instinct”
 
I am not going to read this atm, but you cant be mad when you cant even provide a single Source and your argument is “natural instinct”
Cherrypicked out of my argument. I sent you sources on the hormones and overall logic of extended periods of stress on the body
 
The first one was High intensity training and the second didnt find significant increase in cortisol at 40% of vo2max
 
My point is , all sports contain sprinting and jogging, some require lifting as well. So those will be what I show
 
My point is, You’re denying common knowlegde which is excersise is good, hence its your responsibility to disprove it
It's maybe ok, it's just that you have to destroy and stress your body to feel any benefit. It's dumb
 
When I search it says High intensity starts when you pass 59%
60% and above, its fringe
Regardless, we can conclude that moderate exercise still increases this cortisol, as it jumps from 40 to 60 %. we dont know where in there that it starts producing stress response. Anyways, any sport that requires sprinting or jogging will release this response, and exercise
 
So what exercise are you proposing that doesn't ever go above that?

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So walking, light jog etc
 
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