proof of the existence of God

[theRetard]

god is something most general/abstract, i.e. unity
there's unity and manifold
For suppose a manifold in no way participating unity. Neither this manifold as a whole nor any of its several parts will be one ; each part will itself be a manifold of parts, and so to infinity; and of this infinity of parts each, once more, will be infinitely manifold; for a manifold which in no way participates any unity, neither as a whole nor in respect of its parts severally, will be infinite in every way and in respect of every part. For each part of the manifold- take which you will-must be either one or not-one ; and if not- one, then either many or nothing. But if each part be nothing, the whole is nothing ; if many, it is made up of an infinity of infinites. This is impossible: for, on the one hand, nothing which is is made up of an infinity of infinites (since the infinite cannot be exceeded, yet the single part is exceeded by the sum) ; on the other hand, nothing can be made up of parts which are nothing. Every manifold, therefore, in some way participates unity.

 

[dominantchad]

Not a single molecule

 

[theRetard]

Not a single molecule

dnr

 

[tandi]

god is something most general/abstract, i.e. unity
there's unity and manifold
For suppose a manifold in no way participating unity. Neither this manifold as a whole nor any of its several parts will be one ; each part will itself be a manifold of parts, and so to infinity; and of this infinity of parts each, once more, will be infinitely manifold; for a manifold which in no way participates any unity, neither as a whole nor in respect of its parts severally, will be infinite in every way and in respect of every part. For each part of the manifold- take which you will-must be either one or not-one ; and if not- one, then either many or nothing. But if each part be nothing, the whole is nothing ; if many, it is made up of an infinity of infinites. This is impossible: for, on the one hand, nothing which is is made up of an infinity of infinites (since the infinite cannot be exceeded, yet the single part is exceeded by the sum) ; on the other hand, nothing can be made up of parts which are nothing. Every manifold, therefore, in some way participates unity.

Infinite infinities are very much possible. Take multiverse theory for example, which is supported by quantum mechanics. If we consider our universe to be infinite (which it likely is) and we have an infinite amount of varied universes, then wouldnt that be an infinity within infinity?

 

[theRetard]

@pea

Infinite infinities are very much possible. Take multiverse theory for example, which is supported by quantum mechanics. If we consider our universe to be infinite (which it likely is) and we have an infinite amount of varied universes, then wouldnt that be an infinity within infinity?

infinity infinities are possible? so how is that if infinity already includes everything? they already need some unity principle so they can keep their immanent existence status
if your universe in infinite then there's only one universe because if there are two or more of them then they will begin to conflict with each other in their infinity, i.e. it is simply impossible for there to be more than one infinite universe

 

[tandi]

god is something most general/abstract, i.e. unity
there's unity and manifold
For suppose a manifold in no way participating unity. Neither this manifold as a whole nor any of its several parts will be one ; each part will itself be a manifold of parts, and so to infinity; and of this infinity of parts each, once more, will be infinitely manifold; for a manifold which in no way participates any unity, neither as a whole nor in respect of its parts severally, will be infinite in every way and in respect of every part. For each part of the manifold- take which you will-must be either one or not-one ; and if not- one, then either many or nothing. But if each part be nothing, the whole is nothing ; if many, it is made up of an infinity of infinites. This is impossible: for, on the one hand, nothing which is is made up of an infinity of infinites (since the infinite cannot be exceeded, yet the single part is exceeded by the sum) ; on the other hand, nothing can be made up of parts which are nothing. Every manifold, therefore, in some way participates unity.

Additionally, in mathematics, infinity within infinity is proved to be possible due to be cardinality

 

[theRetard]

Additionally, in mathematics, infinity within infinity is proved to be possible due to be cardinality

then maths is cope

 

[Deleted Member 74605]

Dnr

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

god is something most general/abstract, i.e. unity
there's unity and manifold
For suppose a manifold in no way participating unity. Neither this manifold as a whole nor any of its several parts will be one ; each part will itself be a manifold of parts, and so to infinity; and of this infinity of parts each, once more, will be infinitely manifold; for a manifold which in no way participates any unity, neither as a whole nor in respect of its parts severally, will be infinite in every way and in respect of every part. For each part of the manifold- take which you will-must be either one or not-one ; and if not- one, then either many or nothing. But if each part be nothing, the whole is nothing ; if many, it is made up of an infinity of infinites. This is impossible: for, on the one hand, nothing which is is made up of an infinity of infinites (since the infinite cannot be exceeded, yet the single part is exceeded by the sum) ; on the other hand, nothing can be made up of parts which are nothing. Every manifold, therefore, in some way participates unity.

I don’t wanna read tbh

 

[theRetard]

I don’t wanna read tbh

why

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

why

I don’t believe in god

 

[theRetard]

I don’t believe in god

you don't need to believe tbh cuz it's knowledge rather than belief

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

you don't need to believe tbh cuz it's knowledge rather than belief

Not really
You can’t prove god religions are based on faith

 

[theRetard]

Not really
You can’t prove god religions are based on faith

then prove me that i can't prove it

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

then prove me that i can't prove it

?
That’s not how it works
You either accept that god doesn’t exist or you don’t I’m not sure how I’m supposed to prove that you can’t prove something to me

 

[s3amoonbear]

you don't need to believe tbh cuz it's knowledge rather than belief

Yeah, I know there is god and I worship him, I know he is too beautiful for humans to comprehend, faith is a part of religion, but belief in God comes down to being extremely logical

 

[theRetard]

?
That’s not how it works
You either accept that god doesn’t exist or you don’t I’m not sure how I’m supposed to prove that you can’t prove something to me

"it's impossible to prove god just because i said so, i wont prove my own words"

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

"it's impossible to prove god just because i said so, i wont prove my own words"

God can’t be proven
That’s why religions are based on faith rather than facts

 

[theRetard]

God can’t be proven
That’s why religions are based on faith rather than facts

"god can't be proven sir but i wont prove why he can't be proven"

 

[dominantchad]

god is something most general/abstract, i.e. unity
there's unity and manifold
For suppose a manifold in no way participating unity. Neither this manifold as a whole nor any of its several parts will be one ; each part will itself be a manifold of parts, and so to infinity; and of this infinity of parts each, once more, will be infinitely manifold; for a manifold which in no way participates any unity, neither as a whole nor in respect of its parts severally, will be infinite in every way and in respect of every part. For each part of the manifold- take which you will-must be either one or not-one ; and if not- one, then either many or nothing. But if each part be nothing, the whole is nothing ; if many, it is made up of an infinity of infinites. This is impossible: for, on the one hand, nothing which is is made up of an infinity of infinites (since the infinite cannot be exceeded, yet the single part is exceeded by the sum) ; on the other hand, nothing can be made up of parts which are nothing. Every manifold, therefore, in some way participates unity.

@Inanimate Pragmatist what do you think

 

[Deleted Member 99582]

Yeah, I know there is god and I worship him, I know he is too beautiful for humans to comprehend, faith is a part of religion, but belief in God comes down to being extremely logical

i am catholic but i only see other italians as "thy neighbor"

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

"god can't be proven sir but i wont prove why he can't be proven"

Your argument makes no sense
Just because we don’t know what caused something doesn’t mean it’s god
simply saying god is unity doesn’t prove his existence

 

[theRetard]

Your argument makes no sense
Just because we don’t know what caused something doesn’t mean it’s god
simply saying god is unity doesn’t prove his existence

"it doesn't prove his existence sir i wont explain why, just believe me"

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

@Inanimate Pragmatist what do you think

I only had one faith within the KJV only and Hungarist Turanism.

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

"it doesn't prove his existence sir i wont explain why, just believe me"

Doesn’t even bother to say anything logical just quote shit

 

[theRetard]

Doesn’t even bother to say anything logical just quote shit

can you prove me that it is impossible to prove if there's god?

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

can you prove me that it is impossible to prove if there's god?

Can you tell me why you think there’s a god in the first place?
Saying if anything exits unity must too isn’t a valid argument

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

Can you tell me why you think there’s a god in the first place?
Saying if anything exits unity must too isn’t a valid argument

Read the KJV. You can only ever understand once you went through rebirth. Coming to God is a one way path, you do or you do not. You cannot be convinced by another but instead can only ever accept God once you truly do so deep down.

 

[s3amoonbear]

i am catholic but i only see other italians as "thy neighbor"

Huh????????, why do Italians look down upon other immigrants,

 

[theRetard]

Can you tell me why you think there’s a god in the first place?
Saying if anything exits unity must too isn’t a valid argument

"I will immediately say that his argument is not valid without any logical refutation, sir."

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

Read the KJV. You can only ever understand once you went through rebirth.

I read the thread he posted

 

[Deleted Member 99582]

Huh????????, why do Italians look down upon other immigrants,

it's not looking down. just not the same kind of bond.

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

"I will immediately say that his argument is not valid without any logical refutation, sir."

Yeah I see why you believe in god

 

[theRetard]

Yeah I see why you believe in god

i don't believe in god
it's a knowledge rather than belief

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

i don't believe in god
it's a knowledge rather than belief

Interesting
This thread still doesn’t prove gods existence btw
Just because unity exists doesn’t mean god has to exist

 

[theRetard]

Interesting
This thread still doesn’t prove gods existence btw
Just because unity exists doesn’t mean god has to exist

unity is the god, read the first sentece.
jfl at you

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

unity is the god, read the first sentece.
jfl at you

I literally did
Like I said
Simply because unity exists doesn’t mean it’s god or that a god exists at all

 

[s3amoonbear]

it's not looking down. just not the same kind of bond.

Im 5% Italian, am i thy neighbor

 

[Deleted Member 99582]

Im 5% Italian, am i thy neighbor

no

 

[s3amoonbear]

no

Aww shucks, b-b-but I can make chicken parm, pesto pasta

 

[theRetard]

I literally did
Like I said
Simply because unity exists doesn’t mean it’s god or that a god exists at all

are you actually that retarded, it's just insane. unity and god are one and the same thing conceptually, just two different names for the same thing

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

are you actually that retarded, it's just insane. unity and god are one and the same thing conceptually, just two different names for the same thing

You’re just repeating the same shit
Unity doesn’t mean god
Unity is not god
God no no unity
Unity exists doesn’t mean it’s god
God no unity
Are you retarded

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

unity is the god, read the first sentece.
jfl at you

Yes. The Father is the spirit, body and mind. Son, holy spirit and Father. Not the trinity but the Godhead doctrine, he made us in his image. It is why we have the ID, Super Ego and Ego/Soul, Body and Mind or Sub Conscience, Conscience and Instincts.

 

[theRetard]

Yes. The Father is the spirit, body and mind. Son, holy spirit and Father. Not the trinity but the Godhead doctrine, he made us in his image. It is why we have the ID, Super Ego and Ego/Soul, Body and Mind or Sub Conscience, Conscience and Instincts.

i don't mean christian god, although it includes him too.
you need to read Proclus because i used his argument. it's ontological god

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

i don't mean christian god, although it includes him too.
you need to read Proclus because i used his argument. it's ontological god

Interesting. I only had faith in the KJV God. I might one day return to him.

 

[repent]

god is something most general/abstract, i.e. unity
there's unity and manifold
For suppose a manifold in no way participating unity. Neither this manifold as a whole nor any of its several parts will be one ; each part will itself be a manifold of parts, and so to infinity; and of this infinity of parts each, once more, will be infinitely manifold; for a manifold which in no way participates any unity, neither as a whole nor in respect of its parts severally, will be infinite in every way and in respect of every part. For each part of the manifold- take which you will-must be either one or not-one ; and if not- one, then either many or nothing. But if each part be nothing, the whole is nothing ; if many, it is made up of an infinity of infinites. This is impossible: for, on the one hand, nothing which is is made up of an infinity of infinites (since the infinite cannot be exceeded, yet the single part is exceeded by the sum) ; on the other hand, nothing can be made up of parts which are nothing. Every manifold, therefore, in some way participates unity.

God is greatest.

 

[theRetard]

You’re just repeating the same shit
Unity doesn’t mean god
Unity is not god
God no no unity
Unity exists doesn’t mean it’s god
God no unity
Are you retarded

"you are just repeating the same shit~!"
>sir it doesn't prove god
>sir it doesn't mean anything
>sir i wont prove you my own words
>sir god no no unity just beause i said so
>sir it doesn't prove god it's impossible to prove god

 

[Deleted Member 81310]

"you are just repeating the same shit~!"
>sir it doesn't prove god
>sir it doesn't mean anything
>sir i wont prove you my own words
>sir god no no unity just beause i said so
>sir it doesn't prove god it's impossible to prove god

You know your argument goes both ways right?
“ god isn’t unity because I said so “
You’re literally just saying god is unity it’s the same argument
Unity can exist it just doesn’t have to be god itself I don’t get how small your brain has to be to not get it

 

[theRetard]

You know your argument goes both ways right?
“ god isn’t unity because I said so “
You’re literally just saying god is unity it’s the same argument
Unity can exist it just doesn’t have to be god itself I don’t get how small your brain has to be to not get it

Well, if my definition of God is that it is unity as such (the unifying principle for all things), and you're artificially separating these concepts, then good for you. You can call anything God, even a bun on your table. But usually, God is understood as the most general thing that exists (i.e., unity).

 

[theRetard]

you are too retarded, i'm sorry