Hypothesis Rambilings

[Penalizer69]

The arguement that atheists often use to debunk the possible existence of a God is the issue of evil. Basically if God is omnipotent, why does evil still exist?

The counterargument thiests usually answer bask with is "God gave us free will, so there has to be evil"

This is flawed, actually both arguments are flawed. If God it omnipotent as the bible and many other religious scriptures claim, then he can mold the fabric of the universe in anyway he wishes. God could give us free will, and still make humans better people by default no? It doesn't make sense to me, to let innocent animals and beings which are defenseless suffer all for "free will" (at mass mind you) but see this is why I also disagree with the athiests. Sure religious manuscripts depict a kind and all loving, all knowing God, but what if God wasn't all knowing? What if he wasn't all loving? What If God is just a creator and nothing more, or perhaps just an uninterested party? This is the most likely option to me if God is real. God in a religious sense is certainly not real, and if he is I certainly don't like him, and I don't want to worship him.

That brings us onto another issue, why the fuck would an all powerful God give a shit about our worship?

 

[Deleted Member 107691]

What if he wasn't all loving? What If God is just a creator and nothing more, or perhaps just an uninterested party?

Meanwhile the so called "loving God" choosing the israelis and sticking to them through all the bullshit they caused. Its a huge fallacy imo, cuz what do you mean? Did God really gave them god food while they were roaming in the deserts? And they still sacrificed children to Moloch and believed in others? And he continued to feed them, despite other homeless or hungry nations? Than is he all good? I dont believe so.

 

[Penalizer69]

Meanwhile the so called "loving God" choosing the israelis and sticking to them through all the bullshit they caused. Its a huge fallacy imo, cuz what do you mean? Did God really gave them god food while they were roaming in the deserts? And they still sacrificed children to Moloch and believed in others? And he continued to feed them, despite other homeless or hungry nations? Than is he all good? I dont believe so.

The Bible doesn't try to hide it, it even promotes r**e jfl

Any other religious texts tend to be even worse

 

[Superior]

The arguement that atheists often use to debunk the possible existence of a God is the issue of evil. Basically if God is omnipotent, why does evil still exist?

The counterargument thiests usually answer bask with is "God gave us free will, so there has to be evil"

This is flawed, actually both arguments are flawed. If God it omnipotent as the bible and many other religious scriptures claim, then he can mold the fabric of the universe in anyway he wishes. God could give us free will, and still make humans better people by default no? It doesn't make sense to me, to let innocent animals and beings which are defenseless suffer all for "free will" (at mass mind you) but see this is why I also disagree with the athiests. Sure religious manuscripts depict a kind and all loving, all knowing God, but what if God wasn't all knowing? What if he wasn't all loving? What If God is just a creator and nothing more, or perhaps just an uninterested party? This is the most likely option to me if God is real. God in a religious sense is certainly not real, and if he is I certainly don't like him, and I don't want to worship him.

That brings us onto another issue, why the fuck would an all powerful God give a shit about our worship?

I worship myself

 

[BigDihDiddy]

The arguement that atheists often use to debunk the possible existence of a God is the issue of evil. Basically if God is omnipotent, why does evil still exist?

The counterargument thiests usually answer bask with is "God gave us free will, so there has to be evil"

This is flawed, actually both arguments are flawed. If God it omnipotent as the bible and many other religious scriptures claim, then he can mold the fabric of the universe in anyway he wishes. God could give us free will, and still make humans better people by default no? It doesn't make sense to me, to let innocent animals and beings which are defenseless suffer all for "free will" (at mass mind you) but see this is why I also disagree with the athiests. Sure religious manuscripts depict a kind and all loving, all knowing God, but what if God wasn't all knowing? What if he wasn't all loving? What If God is just a creator and nothing more, or perhaps just an uninterested party? This is the most likely option to me if God is real. God in a religious sense is certainly not real, and if he is I certainly don't like him, and I don't want to worship him.

That brings us onto another issue, why the fuck would an all powerful God give a shit about our worship?

main perceived flaw isn’t even the free will evil since u could just say that’s the result of letting consciousness free, but things such as natural disasters

Since that would seem to disprove perfection if people can die from some tsunami or even be born and die shortly after it seems to be a flaw in of itself.

But in terms of the free will argument people tend to be born with certain instincts to not kill each other for example bible would say that’s gods rules in the heart evolution says it’s species preservation

 

[Beatrice.]

The arguement that atheists often use to debunk the possible existence of a God is the issue of evil. Basically if God is omnipotent, why does evil still exist?

The counterargument thiests usually answer bask with is "God gave us free will, so there has to be evil"

This is flawed, actually both arguments are flawed. If God it omnipotent as the bible and many other religious scriptures claim, then he can mold the fabric of the universe in anyway he wishes. God could give us free will, and still make humans better people by default no? It doesn't make sense to me, to let innocent animals and beings which are defenseless suffer all for "free will" (at mass mind you) but see this is why I also disagree with the athiests. Sure religious manuscripts depict a kind and all loving, all knowing God, but what if God wasn't all knowing? What if he wasn't all loving? What If God is just a creator and nothing more, or perhaps just an uninterested party? This is the most likely option to me if God is real. God in a religious sense is certainly not real, and if he is I certainly don't like him, and I don't want to worship him.

That brings us onto another issue, why the fuck would an all powerful God give a shit about our worship?

I mean you're judging God like if he was a person
"if I was God i wouldn't do it that way"
But here are you getting these standards from ? yourself
Using human logic to judgge something that is ontologically beyond your understanding is not logical at all

That brings us onto another issue, why the fuck would an all powerful God give a shit about our worship?

The same way your parents don't need your love and can live without it but they still want it .

 

[Penalizer69]

I mean you're judging God like if he was a person
"if I was God i wouldn't do it that way"
But here are you getting these standards from ? yourself
Using human logic to judgge something that is ontologically beyond your understanding is not logical at all

The same way your parents don't need your love and can leave without it but they still want it .

I can say the same thing to you right? He's still objectively evil he is real in his biblical form

 

[Beatrice.]

I can say the same thing to you right? He's still objectively evil he is real in his biblical form

Yeah objectively according to the Bible bcs all your arguments are based on the bible
You're using the bible to define what God is
I"m dumb sorry since you're only based on the bible , there is not point to discuss at all

 

[Penalizer69]

Yeah objectively according to the Bible bcs all your arguments are based on the bible
You're using the bible to define what God is
I"m dumb sorry since you're only based on the bible , there is not point to discuss at all

I'm not based on the bible I believe in objective evilness based on cause and effect

I'm not just talking about biblical God I'm talking about God in all religions that I know of.

 

[eternal love]

The arguement that atheists often use to debunk the possible existence of a God is the issue of evil. Basically if God is omnipotent, why does evil still exist?

The counterargument thiests usually answer bask with is "God gave us free will, so there has to be evil"

This is flawed, actually both arguments are flawed. If God it omnipotent as the bible and many other religious scriptures claim, then he can mold the fabric of the universe in anyway he wishes. God could give us free will, and still make humans better people by default no? It doesn't make sense to me, to let innocent animals and beings which are defenseless suffer all for "free will" (at mass mind you) but see this is why I also disagree with the athiests. Sure religious manuscripts depict a kind and all loving, all knowing God, but what if God wasn't all knowing? What if he wasn't all loving? What If God is just a creator and nothing more, or perhaps just an uninterested party? This is the most likely option to me if God is real. God in a religious sense is certainly not real, and if he is I certainly don't like him, and I don't want to worship him.

That brings us onto another issue, why the fuck would an all powerful God give a shit about our worship?

It's a lot easier than this. Basically, if he's all-knowing, and then he gave us free will, then why did he do that? he's all-knowing anyway, he knows what would happen in the future. It just debunks all that shit lol.

 

[ItzyaboyJJ💯]

The concept of a god creating everything is so much for our brains we will never truly understand it

 

[Beatrice.]

I'm not based on the bible I believe in objective evilness based on cause and effect

I'm not just talking about biblical God I'm talking about God in all religions that I know of.

If so

I can say the same thing to you right? He's still objectively evil he is real in his biblical form

You're using human morality which itself evolved bc it changes (it also varies across cultures) over time to judge God
300 years ago slavery was considered morally acceptable by most people
Morality is not as objective as we think it is
So when you say "objectively evil" youre assuming theres a fixed universal moral standard but where does that standard come from?
Bc objective morality doesn't exist at all

 

[eternal love]

I mean you're judging God like if he was a person
"if I was God i wouldn't do it that way"
But here are you getting these standards from ? yourself
Using human logic to judgge something that is ontologically beyond your understanding is not logical at all

The same way your parents don't need your love and can live without it but they still want it .

if he's beyond logic then he doesn't exist

 

[Penalizer69]

If so


You're using human morality which itself evolved bc it changes (it also varies across cultures) over time to judge God
300 years ago slavery was considered morally acceptable by most people
Morality is not as objective as we think it is
So when you say "objectively evil" youre assuming theres a fixed universal moral standard but where does that standard come from?
Bc objective morality doesn't exist at all

If you think I base my morals off of society you're wrong. Shut up with this objective morality isn't real bs it's stupid

It's cause and effect as I stated

 

[ItzyaboyJJ💯]

 

[eternal love]

If so


You're using human morality which itself evolved bc it changes (it also varies across cultures) over time to judge God
300 years ago slavery was considered morally acceptable by most people
Morality is not as objective as we think it is
So when you say "objectively evil" youre assuming theres a fixed universal moral standard but where does that standard come from?
Bc objective morality doesn't exist at all

slavery is considered wrong only by retards lol.

 

[Beatrice.]

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[eternal love]

slavery is good my n***a, those n*****s work while you chill

 

[ItzyaboyJJ💯]

John kramer le goat

Who that yo

 

[Beatrice.]

Who that yo
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