Should abortion be legal?

[VoniLa]

What defines "life" even? At what moment do we obtain soul

 

[vampi]

imo the fetus is a living being but it should still be allowed for girls under 18 and r**e victimis, for obvious reasons

 

[cindythetvisleaking]

imo the fetus is a living being but it should still be allowed for girls under 18 and r**e victimis, for obvious reasons

Exactly

 

[looksmaxxed]

we are charlie kirkk

 

[mus.]

we are charlie kirkk

 

[vampi]

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[mus.]

i'd say b4 it gets a hearbeat, tho from islamic perspective anywhere before the first 120 days/4 month mark if there's a good reason (harm to the mother/child, deformities/handicap, r**e child/under 18)

 

[mus.]

lost the plot

 

[Spuffy]

i'd say b4 it gets a hearbeat, tho from islamic perspective anywhere before the first 120 days/4 month mark if there's a good reason (harm to the mother/child, deformities/handicap, r**e child/under 18)

i believe there is a similar rule for the jewish religion

 

[VoniLa]

imo the fetus is a living being but it should still be allowed for girls under 18 and r**e victimis, for obvious reasons

Why do their lives don't matter? It's stall a human being at the end

 

[vampi]

Why do their lives don't matter? It's stall a human being at the end

i value a person who already has an identity more then a life that hasnt started yet. rather protect a child then a person with no memories, im not saying the person doesnt have a right to exist, but i am saying that the person who got r***d or had an "accident" (shit can happen) also has a right to continue having a normal life.

 

[moonlight1]

imo it should be 100% allowed in cases where the mom can die bc of the pregnancy

 

[vivi]

What defines "life" even? At what moment do we obtain soul

No it shouldnt be illegal in any case

 

[rickydickydoodahgrimes]

What defines "life" even? At what moment do we obtain soul

Whilst i wouldnt wanna get one unless i had been assaulted and i don't think they are a decision to be taken lightly nor is it necessarily a good thing,
I think we get into very muddy waters when we allow the state to make decisions about womens bodies, what women qualify for one and why as well as the fact that i dont think a woman should face punishment for getting one
and i say this as a catholic, i dont like them but i think they are necessary

 

[VoniLa]

Whilst i wouldnt wanna get one unless i had been assaulted

Why are lives made as a result of SA less worthy than regular ones? I told already, life is not less worthy just because of SA

I think we get into very muddy waters when we allow the state to make decisions about womens bodies,

Why is that? What will happen if a state makes decisions about individual's body? Nothing.
Women will complain but nothing will change essentially

 

[rickydickydoodahgrimes]

Why are lives made as a result of SA less worthy than regular ones? I told already, life is not less worthy just because of SA

Why is that? What will happen if a state makes decisions about individual's body? Nothing.
Women will complain but nothing will change essentially

uh backstreet abortions ?
do u think its fair to imprison a 12 yo girl who got r***d by her dad for not wanting to be pregnant and have her whole life on hold for over 9 months as well as the trauma of giving birth ?
furthermore, the life isnt less valuable but i do not think its fair on the human being who is already a person w a personality, thoughts, feelings, an identity
The state having too much control over peoples bodies would be like living in China
idk abt u but i wouldnt wanna let some organisation of a bunch of old men have a say in pregnancy/birth
dk if u have seen the news of that woman who gave birth and instantly threw the baby out of the hospital window, this is what can happen when women with vulnerabilities to postpartum psychosis and depression arent given proper access to abortions

 

[looksmaxxed]

The state having too much control over peoples bodies would be like living in China

what do you mean like living in china

 

[rickydickydoodahgrimes]

what do you mean like living in china

the regulations on birth (2kid rule, etc)
its wrong to regulate someones body to that degree imo and opens the doors for the state to abuse its population

 

[looksmaxxed]

the regulations on birth (2kid rule, etc)
its wrong to regulate someones body to that degree imo and opens the doors for the state to abuse its population

thats fair, you are libertarian?

 

[rickydickydoodahgrimes]

thats fair, you are libertarian?

Prolly, i don't think it's a good idea to get the state involved in personal matters such as pregnancy etc, its too much
im not super left leaning either tho, i try to find balance and compromise so people are not only safe but are able to live a good and happy life as they wish yk ?

 

[VoniLa]

uh backstreet abortions ?

But still the rate of abortions will be lowered drastically if it becomes illegal

do u think its fair to imprison a 12 yo girl who got r***d by her dad for not wanting to be pregnant and have her whole life on hold for over 9 months as well as the trauma of giving birth ?

Not fair no

furthermore, the life isnt less valuable but i do not think its fair on the human being who is already a person w a personality, thoughts, feelings, an identity

So what if it's not fair? "Life isn't fair" is a saying for a reason

What makes someone who has full consciousness more worthy than let's say mentally ill person or people in coma who don't have thoughts and feelings at all?

idk abt u but i wouldnt wanna let some organisation of a bunch of old men have a say in pregnancy/birth

Ego issue. You believe one's who are qualified for a matter don't know what they're doing

dk if u have seen the news of that woman who gave birth and instantly threw the baby out of the hospital window, this is what can happen when women with vulnerabilities to postpartum psychosis and depression arent given proper access to abortions

Extreme case

The state having too much control over peoples bodies would be like living in China

Not really political so don't really know what you're Referring to

 

[VoniLa]

up

 

[Ruin]

Abortion outside of the womb

 

[Decay]

Should only be an option for r**e victims. Otherwise, degeneracy.

 

[Ruin]

Should only be an option for r**e victims. Otherwise, degeneracy.

Im a r e victim ...

 

[Decay]

Im a r e victim ...

And?

 

[rickydickydoodahgrimes]

But still the rate of abortions will be lowered drastically if it becomes illegal

Not fair no

So what if it's not fair? "Life isn't fair" is a saying for a reason

What makes someone who has full consciousness more worthy than let's say mentally ill person or people in coma who don't have thoughts and feelings at all?

Ego issue. You believe one's who are qualified for a matter don't know what they're doing

Extreme case

Not really political so don't really know what you're Referring to

uh if someone was braindead i wouldnt say we should keep them alive no again its unfair.
secondly 'life isnt fair' is a shit argument to base laws on
furthermore, forcing someone to give birth is an infringements on right and bodily autonomy
if u value life the way u say u do, then u should care abt backstreet abortions bcs not only will the fetus die so will the mother
as well as this if u think that a 12yo girl who has been assaulted shouldnt go to prison then how do u intend to go about enforcing the criminalisation of abortions ?

 

[Ruin]

uh if someone was braindead i wouldnt say we should keep them alive no again its unfair.
secondly 'life isnt fair' is a shit argument to base laws on
furthermore, forcing someone to give birth is an infringements on right and bodily autonomy
if u value life the way u say u do, then u should care abt backstreet abortions bcs not only will the fetus die so will the mother
as well as this if u think that a 12yo girl who has been assaulted shouldnt go to prison then how do u intend to go about enforcing the criminalisation of abortions ?

Go on prison? That 's not solution

 

[rickydickydoodahgrimes]

Go on prison? That 's not solution

im not saying it is, read the earlier replies

 

[+Enrique+]

i don't care tbh