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Don't cruise and keep everything low like under 500mg
I dont think clomid is necessary, my leydig cells will still be active due to the HCG so I wont be needing time to get the receptors to activate. all I need is to kickstart the gonadtropins which tamoxifen does effectively. about the cycle length, I had people say do more than 16, and from what I've heard 16-20 is the typical cycle, why do you think its too long?
yeah blast and cruise for a long time will definitely make you a male gazed meathead I am only doing a few numbers of cycles at max just to get physique halo, and slightly imrove dimorphism as I am baby faced.
But you lose lots of muscle mass if you hop off steroids you idiot. You will lose the physique halo. You only have it during cycle.
No you don't it's already been disproven you can keep majority of your gains
If your PCT is solid, and you stay consistent with training, hydration, and proper nutrition, you can retain around 1/2 to 2/3 of the gains made during your cycle. It all comes down to maintaining good habits after the cycle and good PCT.
What do you think if I took this cycle and subbed out the mast and igd(?), For halo and dianabol, adding in clomid as well
Agreed
Not much physique halo is gained from roids either imo
why halo? It’s shit for muscle gain it’s only good for strength and agression.
It doesn't matter if your PCT is "solid". You would have to bulk up and get very fat to retain muscle mass from cycle. Then you'd have to do another steroid to lean down and keep muscle mass. In simple terms, no you can't fucking retain "1/2" or "2/3" of muscle mass. Genetics matter mainly, it doesn't come down to "good habits" and "good pct". It doesn't matter as much as you think. Steroids are not worth it in looksmaxxing terms. Why ruin your face for physique when face matters more in the first place? I wouldn't do anything other than TRT which again is not required. You're fucking young and your hormones are at it's peak. No need to inject hormones that bodybuilders and old men do.
Lmao. Just fucking lol. Absolute idiot. This is a looksmaxxing forum, not a bodybuilding. Dbol looksmins you to hell.
This is off-topic Bhai chill
The question wasn’t whether or not to use steroids, that’s an easy “no.” The real question is if you can retain muscle after a cycle, and the answer is absolutely yes. You can keep anywhere from 1/3 to 2/3 of your gains depending on your genetics and, most importantly, what you do after the cycle (PCT, training, diet, etc.). If no one kept any gains, bodybuilders wouldn’t be huge long after competitions. As for TRT, it’s intended for those with low testosterone, like bodybuilders who’ve damaged their natural production or people with naturally low levels. Jumping on TRT unnecessarily can be worse than a steroid cycle because it forces your body to rely on external testosterone long term. Don't do it unless it's absolutely necessary.
A steroid cycle is never as long as TRT, which can last for years. You actually have more control and flexibility with a steroid cycle than you do with TRT, where you're committing to a much longer process of external hormone dependence.
I know that already. The moment you inject testosterone for 8-12 weeks (regular cycle length) you will need to be on TRT afterwards. If you don't, you will have very low testosterone.
That’s why we use a PCT to kickstart natural testosterone production again. Even without a PCT, if the cycle wasn’t too long, normal production typically resumes in 4-6 months. However, it's not ideal since you’ll likely lose most of the muscle gained during the cycle while waiting for your body to recover naturally.
The normal production resuming will never be the same way it used to be, same with PCT.
if you have already surpassed your natural limit then yes you do lose lots of muscle, other than that people report that they do keep most the gains on their first and second cycles.
Not sure where you heard that, but studies on bodybuilders have shown that testosterone levels can return to normal, and sometimes even above normal, for a short period after using an aggressive PCT. The real issue comes when someone runs a harsh cycle and skips PCT altogether, or if they do steroids for too long or in excessive amounts. That’s when recovery gets much harder and risks increase.
can you cite the studies please?
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