If you're an ltn and you hardmaxx,softmaxx,lose weight etc and barely touch mtn what's even the point of all this?.it doesn't add to much,you might say it's better than nothing but you could spend all that effort to improve your life in other areas and you will get results in that.even with looksmaxxing, if you get surgery,you aren't guaranteed to ascend.and furthermore I think most people on this site are average to above average.yes ltns are normal looking joes.and all the chads are cookie cutter with the same face.i have seen people be rated htn but I personally don't find them appealing at all.what is it all for?