Serious 𝗩𝗣𝗡 𝗥𝗘𝗚𝗜𝗦𝗧𝗥𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡𝗦 𝗢𝗡 .𝗖𝗢𝗠 //𝗪𝗵𝘆 𝗪𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗦𝘁𝗼𝗽 𝗔𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗺?

[Atra]

VPN REGISTRATIONS ON .COM
Why We Should Stop Allowing Them

A formal proposal for staff and members

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

TL;DR

• A VPN hides the real IP, so abuse cannot be traced back to a real person.
• That makes bans, moderation and accountability optional for bad actors.
• Honest members carry the full risk. Abusers carry none.
• Proposal: block account creation over VPN. Browsing and logging in stay untouched.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 1. The Core Problem

We want a forum that stays clean, safe and fair — for everyone. That is not achievable while anyone can create an account behind a VPN.

A VPN masks the real IP address. Without it, linking malicious activity to a specific person becomes extremely difficult, often impossible.

Someone who covers their tracks will do things they would never risk otherwise — and walk away from it.​

This isn't about distrusting VPN users. It's about the fact that our only enforcement tool loses its teeth.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 2. What This Enables

• Ban evasion & multi-accounting
  
  Clear cookies, switch browser, switch VPN node — the banned user is back in under a minute. Bans stop being consequences and become inconveniences. Trolls return indefinitely, and staff burn hours on the same person under ten names.​
• Doxxing, blackmail & targeted harassment
  
  Personal data gets posted, threats get made, members get followed across threads — and we cannot trace the real source.
  The attacker stays anonymous. The victim does not.​
• Illegal content & platform liability
  
  With insults, hate speech, or worse, we can barely demonstrate who was behind it. That raises the legal exposure of the entire platform — and indirectly of every single member who posts here.​
• Scams and marketplace fraud
  
  Disposable accounts are the standard tool for anyone selling something they never intend to deliver. No traceability means no recourse.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 3. Why This Affects Everyone

These are not theoretical risks. Anyone participating here can become the target. One determined anonymous user is enough to poison the atmosphere for hundreds.

The imbalance is the actual issue:

Honest members participate openly and carry the full risk.
Bad actors hide behind a VPN and carry none.

Every rule we write is only as strong as our ability to enforce it. Right now, that ability is opt-out.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 4. "But VPNs Are Legitimate" — Addressing the Counterarguments

Fair objections deserve real answers, so here they are.

"I use a VPN for privacy, not abuse."

Understood — and nothing changes for you. The proposal targets registration only. Once your account exists, use a VPN freely, every day, forever.​

"Determined people will bypass it anyway."

Correct, and irrelevant. Security is about raising cost, not achieving perfection. Locks don't stop lockpickers; they stop everyone else. Most ban evasion is lazy and opportunistic — a registration barrier removes the majority of it.​

"Some users need a VPN to access the site at all."

Valid — and solvable. A manual approval route (see below) covers genuine cases without leaving the door open by default.​

"This will cost us new members."

A small number, yes. But an unmoderatable forum loses far more members — quietly, permanently, and exactly the ones worth keeping.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 5. The Proposal

Deliberately minimal. Maximum effect, minimum friction.

1. Block account creation from known VPN, proxy and datacenter IP ranges.
   
   Registration only. Nothing else.​
2. Do not block browsing or logging in.
   
   Existing members are unaffected, period.​
3. Show a clear error message, not a dead page.
   
   "Registration is not available over VPN. Disable it to sign up.​
4. Publish a transparent rules guide.
   
   Every member should know exactly what is allowed and what isn't. I'm happy to write this up if the proposal goes through.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 6. What Changes For You

• Already have an account? Nothing changes. Nothing at all.
• Use a VPN daily? Keep using it. Log in and post as always.
• Registering a new account? Turn the VPN off for two minutes, or message staff.
• Evading a ban? This is for you.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 7. Bottom Line

We want a forum where rules can actually be enforced and where members feel safe. That is only possible if the barrier to anonymous abuse accounts stays high.

We should consistently prevent accounts
from being created over VPN on .com.

That is how the forum stays clean, safe and fair — for every one of us.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━

Thoughts, objections and counterproposals are welcome below.
Vote in the poll so staff can see where the community stands.

Spoiler: Staff Members

@draftLexy @ecoli @junebug @Nbernical @Orka @rand anon @Randomized @Starlet @TonyDr @tuberculosisinmybal @Dean

Spoiler: Online Member

@xoxo @Jimcel @Vikram007 @Seraphiel @negative @hghosttttt @Paradise @Shedontluv-U @the lavo @limo8 @zherka @TonyDr @ebadullahtrialesque @Marinetti's top guy @Doe_eyes @Dude1157 @Osiris @Angel @MasterOfTheZygo @SimuelParkioJudou @ecoli @draftLexy @Youcanalwaysimprove @ldrm @Syniq @Hector of Troy @vamp @communistdaughter @ILOVELIFE @Leynia @Hudson @junebug @daracel @jdjd123 @gatetoheaven @True_Fakecell @shhhh. @Epic09 @yyoloo @Euron @addybaddie @nanac @TiredOfDances @mabiauhp @Nobodyreallycares @highefforthreads @MrMaxwell @JDD8 @lukichhek @Orbitals @Phant0maxxer11 @Aryy @brizi is jester @vronssky @batluvr158 @MS10091079 @mustbeanotheronee @chocolatechips @SaintHamudi @vibed777 @Slayer_inTraining @Evilemofoid @Cinnamon fan64 @Mr.Hammer @fluoxetine @a7nthrax @kifykify @catlover:3 @foidslayer333iq @ZHa1gA @yojordan @MOGFOID @arlo_420 @hxllen.cc @rezonov @Randomized @cutecel @Ldar09867 @disa @looksmaxxingchud @HerculesJr. @Krisxy @Mogden @Foid @aspiringpslgodess @JRB69 @dxz @Niggard @Aromatasinq97 @nathania @Histy @solipsism @Skinstalker0 @iletheile @Currycelloser @glamourpursuer @Ascending Machine @Kronion @Blemish @copevictim @tospakz @Lenny_88ER @zombinutz @prometheus* @ascending1111 @nomad15 @Garo_LTN @Notlockedin @looksman769 @eyes33 @Cartman1 @Enphoria @broccoli

​

 

[Skinstalker0]

Why am I @ I never use this forum

 

[Atra]

Why am I @ I never use this forum

“Online members”

 

[ILOVELIFE]

but yall gonna dox us

 

[Paradise]

VPN REGISTRATIONS ON .COM
Why We Should Stop Allowing Them

A formal proposal for staff and members

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━





━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 1. The Core Problem

We want a forum that stays clean, safe and fair — for everyone. That is not achievable while anyone can create an account behind a VPN.

A VPN masks the real IP address. Without it, linking malicious activity to a specific person becomes extremely difficult, often impossible.

Someone who covers their tracks will do things they would never risk otherwise — and walk away from it.​

This isn't about distrusting VPN users. It's about the fact that our only enforcement tool loses its teeth.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 2. What This Enables

• Ban evasion & multi-accounting
  
  Clear cookies, switch browser, switch VPN node — the banned user is back in under a minute. Bans stop being consequences and become inconveniences. Trolls return indefinitely, and staff burn hours on the same person under ten names.​
• Doxxing, blackmail & targeted harassment
  
  Personal data gets posted, threats get made, members get followed across threads — and we cannot trace the real source.
  The attacker stays anonymous. The victim does not.​
• Illegal content & platform liability
  
  With insults, hate speech, or worse, we can barely demonstrate who was behind it. That raises the legal exposure of the entire platform — and indirectly of every single member who posts here.​
• Scams and marketplace fraud
  
  Disposable accounts are the standard tool for anyone selling something they never intend to deliver. No traceability means no recourse.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 3. Why This Affects Everyone

These are not theoretical risks. Anyone participating here can become the target. One determined anonymous user is enough to poison the atmosphere for hundreds.

The imbalance is the actual issue:



Every rule we write is only as strong as our ability to enforce it. Right now, that ability is opt-out.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 4. "But VPNs Are Legitimate" — Addressing the Counterarguments

Fair objections deserve real answers, so here they are.

"I use a VPN for privacy, not abuse."

Understood — and nothing changes for you. The proposal targets registration only. Once your account exists, use a VPN freely, every day, forever.​

"Determined people will bypass it anyway."

Correct, and irrelevant. Security is about raising cost, not achieving perfection. Locks don't stop lockpickers; they stop everyone else. Most ban evasion is lazy and opportunistic — a registration barrier removes the majority of it.​

"Some users need a VPN to access the site at all."

Valid — and solvable. A manual approval route (see below) covers genuine cases without leaving the door open by default.​

"This will cost us new members."

A small number, yes. But an unmoderatable forum loses far more members — quietly, permanently, and exactly the ones worth keeping.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 5. The Proposal

Deliberately minimal. Maximum effect, minimum friction.

1. Block account creation from known VPN, proxy and datacenter IP ranges.
   
   Registration only. Nothing else.​
2. Do not block browsing or logging in.
   
   Existing members are unaffected, period.​
3. Show a clear error message, not a dead page.
   
   "Registration is not available over VPN. Disable it to sign up.​
4. Publish a transparent rules guide.
   
   Every member should know exactly what is allowed and what isn't. I'm happy to write this up if the proposal goes through.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 6. What Changes For You

• Already have an account? Nothing changes. Nothing at all.
• Use a VPN daily? Keep using it. Log in and post as always.
• Registering a new account? Turn the VPN off for two minutes, or message staff.
• Evading a ban? This is for you.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 7. Bottom Line

We want a forum where rules can actually be enforced and where members feel safe. That is only possible if the barrier to anonymous abuse accounts stays high.

We should consistently prevent accounts
from being created over VPN on .com.

That is how the forum stays clean, safe and fair — for every one of us.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━

Thoughts, objections and counterproposals are welcome below.
Vote in the poll so staff can see where the community stands.

Spoiler: Staff Members

@draftLexy @ecoli @junebug @Nbernical @Orka @rand anon @Randomized @Starlet @TonyDr @tuberculosisinmybal @Dean

Spoiler: Online Member

@xoxo @Jimcel @Vikram007 @Seraphiel @negative @hghosttttt @Paradise @Shedontluv-U @the lavo @limo8 @zherka @TonyDr @ebadullahtrialesque @Marinetti's top guy @Doe_eyes @Dude1157 @Osiris @Angel @MasterOfTheZygo @SimuelParkioJudou @ecoli @draftLexy @Youcanalwaysimprove @ldrm @Syniq @Hector of Troy @vamp @communistdaughter @ILOVELIFE @Leynia @Hudson @junebug @daracel @jdjd123 @gatetoheaven @True_Fakecell @shhhh. @Epic09 @yyoloo @Euron @addybaddie @nanac @TiredOfDances @mabiauhp @Nobodyreallycares @highefforthreads @MrMaxwell @JDD8 @lukichhek @Orbitals @Phant0maxxer11 @Aryy @brizi is jester @vronssky @batluvr158 @MS10091079 @mustbeanotheronee @chocolatechips @SaintHamudi @vibed777 @Slayer_inTraining @Evilemofoid @Cinnamon fan64 @Mr.Hammer @fluoxetine @a7nthrax @kifykify @catlover:3 @foidslayer333iq @ZHa1gA @yojordan @MOGFOID @arlo_420 @hxllen.cc @rezonov @Randomized @cutecel @Ldar09867 @disa @looksmaxxingchud @HerculesJr. @Krisxy @Mogden @Foid @aspiringpslgodess @JRB69 @dxz @Niggard @Aromatasinq97 @nathania @Histy @solipsism @Skinstalker0 @iletheile @Currycelloser @glamourpursuer @Ascending Machine @Kronion @Blemish @copevictim @tospakz @Lenny_88ER @zombinutz @prometheus* @ascending1111 @nomad15 @Garo_LTN @Notlockedin @looksman769 @eyes33 @Cartman1 @Enphoria @broccoli

​

Mods can still see both your vpns ?

 

[astrix]

kill yourself i hate you

 

[limo8]

too much work G i will get to it later

 

[Skinstalker0]

“Online members”

I wasn’t online

 

[astrix]

fuck you make an alting guide

 

[Vikram007]

how is @Dean supposed to make money to run the forum then ?

 

[communistdaughter]

don’t tag me in ts brah

 

[ILOVELIFE]

yo bro never tag me again, never fucking tag me again

 

[trenghost]

how is @Dean supposed to make money to run the forum then ?

he robs banks

 

[the lavo]

VPN REGISTRATIONS ON .COM
Why We Should Stop Allowing Them

A formal proposal for staff and members

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━





━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 1. The Core Problem

We want a forum that stays clean, safe and fair — for everyone. That is not achievable while anyone can create an account behind a VPN.

A VPN masks the real IP address. Without it, linking malicious activity to a specific person becomes extremely difficult, often impossible.

Someone who covers their tracks will do things they would never risk otherwise — and walk away from it.​

This isn't about distrusting VPN users. It's about the fact that our only enforcement tool loses its teeth.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 2. What This Enables

• Ban evasion & multi-accounting
  
  Clear cookies, switch browser, switch VPN node — the banned user is back in under a minute. Bans stop being consequences and become inconveniences. Trolls return indefinitely, and staff burn hours on the same person under ten names.​
• Doxxing, blackmail & targeted harassment
  
  Personal data gets posted, threats get made, members get followed across threads — and we cannot trace the real source.
  The attacker stays anonymous. The victim does not.​
• Illegal content & platform liability
  
  With insults, hate speech, or worse, we can barely demonstrate who was behind it. That raises the legal exposure of the entire platform — and indirectly of every single member who posts here.​
• Scams and marketplace fraud
  
  Disposable accounts are the standard tool for anyone selling something they never intend to deliver. No traceability means no recourse.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 3. Why This Affects Everyone

These are not theoretical risks. Anyone participating here can become the target. One determined anonymous user is enough to poison the atmosphere for hundreds.

The imbalance is the actual issue:



Every rule we write is only as strong as our ability to enforce it. Right now, that ability is opt-out.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 4. "But VPNs Are Legitimate" — Addressing the Counterarguments

Fair objections deserve real answers, so here they are.

"I use a VPN for privacy, not abuse."

Understood — and nothing changes for you. The proposal targets registration only. Once your account exists, use a VPN freely, every day, forever.​

"Determined people will bypass it anyway."

Correct, and irrelevant. Security is about raising cost, not achieving perfection. Locks don't stop lockpickers; they stop everyone else. Most ban evasion is lazy and opportunistic — a registration barrier removes the majority of it.​

"Some users need a VPN to access the site at all."

Valid — and solvable. A manual approval route (see below) covers genuine cases without leaving the door open by default.​

"This will cost us new members."

A small number, yes. But an unmoderatable forum loses far more members — quietly, permanently, and exactly the ones worth keeping.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 5. The Proposal

Deliberately minimal. Maximum effect, minimum friction.

1. Block account creation from known VPN, proxy and datacenter IP ranges.
   
   Registration only. Nothing else.​
2. Do not block browsing or logging in.
   
   Existing members are unaffected, period.​
3. Show a clear error message, not a dead page.
   
   "Registration is not available over VPN. Disable it to sign up.​
4. Publish a transparent rules guide.
   
   Every member should know exactly what is allowed and what isn't. I'm happy to write this up if the proposal goes through.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 6. What Changes For You

• Already have an account? Nothing changes. Nothing at all.
• Use a VPN daily? Keep using it. Log in and post as always.
• Registering a new account? Turn the VPN off for two minutes, or message staff.
• Evading a ban? This is for you.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 7. Bottom Line

We want a forum where rules can actually be enforced and where members feel safe. That is only possible if the barrier to anonymous abuse accounts stays high.

We should consistently prevent accounts
from being created over VPN on .com.

That is how the forum stays clean, safe and fair — for every one of us.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━

Thoughts, objections and counterproposals are welcome below.
Vote in the poll so staff can see where the community stands.

Spoiler: Staff Members

@draftLexy @ecoli @junebug @Nbernical @Orka @rand anon @Randomized @Starlet @TonyDr @tuberculosisinmybal @Dean

Spoiler: Online Member

@xoxo @Jimcel @Vikram007 @Seraphiel @negative @hghosttttt @Paradise @Shedontluv-U @the lavo @limo8 @zherka @TonyDr @ebadullahtrialesque @Marinetti's top guy @Doe_eyes @Dude1157 @Osiris @Angel @MasterOfTheZygo @SimuelParkioJudou @ecoli @draftLexy @Youcanalwaysimprove @ldrm @Syniq @Hector of Troy @vamp @communistdaughter @ILOVELIFE @Leynia @Hudson @junebug @daracel @jdjd123 @gatetoheaven @True_Fakecell @shhhh. @Epic09 @yyoloo @Euron @addybaddie @nanac @TiredOfDances @mabiauhp @Nobodyreallycares @highefforthreads @MrMaxwell @JDD8 @lukichhek @Orbitals @Phant0maxxer11 @Aryy @brizi is jester @vronssky @batluvr158 @MS10091079 @mustbeanotheronee @chocolatechips @SaintHamudi @vibed777 @Slayer_inTraining @Evilemofoid @Cinnamon fan64 @Mr.Hammer @fluoxetine @a7nthrax @kifykify @catlover:3 @foidslayer333iq @ZHa1gA @yojordan @MOGFOID @arlo_420 @hxllen.cc @rezonov @Randomized @cutecel @Ldar09867 @disa @looksmaxxingchud @HerculesJr. @Krisxy @Mogden @Foid @aspiringpslgodess @JRB69 @dxz @Niggard @Aromatasinq97 @nathania @Histy @solipsism @Skinstalker0 @iletheile @Currycelloser @glamourpursuer @Ascending Machine @Kronion @Blemish @copevictim @tospakz @Lenny_88ER @zombinutz @prometheus* @ascending1111 @nomad15 @Garo_LTN @Notlockedin @looksman769 @eyes33 @Cartman1 @Enphoria @broccoli

​

because of IP bans if some n****r sends CP in here he should get Ip banned thats why

 

[Atra]

how is @Dean supposed to make money to run the forum then ?

You retarded didn’t read the thread.

 

[MasterOfTheZygo]

VPN REGISTRATIONS ON .COM
Why We Should Stop Allowing Them

A formal proposal for staff and members

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━





━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 1. The Core Problem

We want a forum that stays clean, safe and fair — for everyone. That is not achievable while anyone can create an account behind a VPN.

A VPN masks the real IP address. Without it, linking malicious activity to a specific person becomes extremely difficult, often impossible.

Someone who covers their tracks will do things they would never risk otherwise — and walk away from it.​

This isn't about distrusting VPN users. It's about the fact that our only enforcement tool loses its teeth.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 2. What This Enables

• Ban evasion & multi-accounting
  
  Clear cookies, switch browser, switch VPN node — the banned user is back in under a minute. Bans stop being consequences and become inconveniences. Trolls return indefinitely, and staff burn hours on the same person under ten names.​
• Doxxing, blackmail & targeted harassment
  
  Personal data gets posted, threats get made, members get followed across threads — and we cannot trace the real source.
  The attacker stays anonymous. The victim does not.​
• Illegal content & platform liability
  
  With insults, hate speech, or worse, we can barely demonstrate who was behind it. That raises the legal exposure of the entire platform — and indirectly of every single member who posts here.​
• Scams and marketplace fraud
  
  Disposable accounts are the standard tool for anyone selling something they never intend to deliver. No traceability means no recourse.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 3. Why This Affects Everyone

These are not theoretical risks. Anyone participating here can become the target. One determined anonymous user is enough to poison the atmosphere for hundreds.

The imbalance is the actual issue:



Every rule we write is only as strong as our ability to enforce it. Right now, that ability is opt-out.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 4. "But VPNs Are Legitimate" — Addressing the Counterarguments

Fair objections deserve real answers, so here they are.

"I use a VPN for privacy, not abuse."

Understood — and nothing changes for you. The proposal targets registration only. Once your account exists, use a VPN freely, every day, forever.​

"Determined people will bypass it anyway."

Correct, and irrelevant. Security is about raising cost, not achieving perfection. Locks don't stop lockpickers; they stop everyone else. Most ban evasion is lazy and opportunistic — a registration barrier removes the majority of it.​

"Some users need a VPN to access the site at all."

Valid — and solvable. A manual approval route (see below) covers genuine cases without leaving the door open by default.​

"This will cost us new members."

A small number, yes. But an unmoderatable forum loses far more members — quietly, permanently, and exactly the ones worth keeping.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 5. The Proposal

Deliberately minimal. Maximum effect, minimum friction.

1. Block account creation from known VPN, proxy and datacenter IP ranges.
   
   Registration only. Nothing else.​
2. Do not block browsing or logging in.
   
   Existing members are unaffected, period.​
3. Show a clear error message, not a dead page.
   
   "Registration is not available over VPN. Disable it to sign up.​
4. Publish a transparent rules guide.
   
   Every member should know exactly what is allowed and what isn't. I'm happy to write this up if the proposal goes through.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 6. What Changes For You

• Already have an account? Nothing changes. Nothing at all.
• Use a VPN daily? Keep using it. Log in and post as always.
• Registering a new account? Turn the VPN off for two minutes, or message staff.
• Evading a ban? This is for you.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 7. Bottom Line

We want a forum where rules can actually be enforced and where members feel safe. That is only possible if the barrier to anonymous abuse accounts stays high.

We should consistently prevent accounts
from being created over VPN on .com.

That is how the forum stays clean, safe and fair — for every one of us.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━

Thoughts, objections and counterproposals are welcome below.
Vote in the poll so staff can see where the community stands.

Spoiler: Staff Members

@draftLexy @ecoli @junebug @Nbernical @Orka @rand anon @Randomized @Starlet @TonyDr @tuberculosisinmybal @Dean

Spoiler: Online Member

@xoxo @Jimcel @Vikram007 @Seraphiel @negative @hghosttttt @Paradise @Shedontluv-U @the lavo @limo8 @zherka @TonyDr @ebadullahtrialesque @Marinetti's top guy @Doe_eyes @Dude1157 @Osiris @Angel @MasterOfTheZygo @SimuelParkioJudou @ecoli @draftLexy @Youcanalwaysimprove @ldrm @Syniq @Hector of Troy @vamp @communistdaughter @ILOVELIFE @Leynia @Hudson @junebug @daracel @jdjd123 @gatetoheaven @True_Fakecell @shhhh. @Epic09 @yyoloo @Euron @addybaddie @nanac @TiredOfDances @mabiauhp @Nobodyreallycares @highefforthreads @MrMaxwell @JDD8 @lukichhek @Orbitals @Phant0maxxer11 @Aryy @brizi is jester @vronssky @batluvr158 @MS10091079 @mustbeanotheronee @chocolatechips @SaintHamudi @vibed777 @Slayer_inTraining @Evilemofoid @Cinnamon fan64 @Mr.Hammer @fluoxetine @a7nthrax @kifykify @catlover:3 @foidslayer333iq @ZHa1gA @yojordan @MOGFOID @arlo_420 @hxllen.cc @rezonov @Randomized @cutecel @Ldar09867 @disa @looksmaxxingchud @HerculesJr. @Krisxy @Mogden @Foid @aspiringpslgodess @JRB69 @dxz @Niggard @Aromatasinq97 @nathania @Histy @solipsism @Skinstalker0 @iletheile @Currycelloser @glamourpursuer @Ascending Machine @Kronion @Blemish @copevictim @tospakz @Lenny_88ER @zombinutz @prometheus* @ascending1111 @nomad15 @Garo_LTN @Notlockedin @looksman769 @eyes33 @Cartman1 @Enphoria @broccoli

​

High IQ post, I agree fully. Things like this is a real problem and allows anyone to do anything and post nay type of content with no real reprocussions

 

[Vikram007]

You retarded didn’t read the thread.

you expected smthn else ?

 

[tospakz]

this is a forum u dont get ip banned, if u reset website cookies all bans and relations with previous accounts go away, u dont need vpn to evade

 

[MasterOfTheZygo]

because of IP bans if some n****r sends CP in here he should get Ip banned thats why

Exactly 100% should be unacceptable for that reason

 

[Hector of Troy]

i don't think much real abuse happens in this forum
this is not org, it's quite tame
alot of people might not be comfortable with their ips being known by owners/mods

 

[Atra]

High IQ post, I agree fully. Things like this is a real problem and allows anyone to do anything and post nay type of content with no real reprocussions

For my, yours and everbodys saftey.

 

[Kaligula567]

Ye such 2 faced admins for Locking my thread

 

[trenghost]

i don't think much real abuse happens in this forum
this is not org
alot of people might not be comfortable with their ips being known by owners/mods

yeah bro idk if I want @Dean knowing my full address date of birth social security number what I ate for lunch

 

[TonyDr]

kill yourself i hate you

Don't diss the atra !

 

[TonyDr]

they pull up to my house

For a barbecue at best bud

 

[gimp]

Don't diss the atra !

kill yourself i hate you

 

[Atra]

Don't diss the atra !

She’s mad cuz I don’t teach her how to alt.

 

[Atra]

kill yourself i hate you

Don't diss the tony !

 

[trenghost]

For a barbecue at best bud

you can be the main course if you catch my drift

God I feel so fucking gay

 

[submissivechud]

VPN REGISTRATIONS ON .COM
Why We Should Stop Allowing Them

A formal proposal for staff and members

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━





━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 1. The Core Problem

We want a forum that stays clean, safe and fair — for everyone. That is not achievable while anyone can create an account behind a VPN.

A VPN masks the real IP address. Without it, linking malicious activity to a specific person becomes extremely difficult, often impossible.

Someone who covers their tracks will do things they would never risk otherwise — and walk away from it.​

This isn't about distrusting VPN users. It's about the fact that our only enforcement tool loses its teeth.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 2. What This Enables

• Ban evasion & multi-accounting
  
  Clear cookies, switch browser, switch VPN node — the banned user is back in under a minute. Bans stop being consequences and become inconveniences. Trolls return indefinitely, and staff burn hours on the same person under ten names.​
• Doxxing, blackmail & targeted harassment
  
  Personal data gets posted, threats get made, members get followed across threads — and we cannot trace the real source.
  The attacker stays anonymous. The victim does not.​
• Illegal content & platform liability
  
  With insults, hate speech, or worse, we can barely demonstrate who was behind it. That raises the legal exposure of the entire platform — and indirectly of every single member who posts here.​
• Scams and marketplace fraud
  
  Disposable accounts are the standard tool for anyone selling something they never intend to deliver. No traceability means no recourse.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 3. Why This Affects Everyone

These are not theoretical risks. Anyone participating here can become the target. One determined anonymous user is enough to poison the atmosphere for hundreds.

The imbalance is the actual issue:



Every rule we write is only as strong as our ability to enforce it. Right now, that ability is opt-out.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 4. "But VPNs Are Legitimate" — Addressing the Counterarguments

Fair objections deserve real answers, so here they are.

"I use a VPN for privacy, not abuse."

Understood — and nothing changes for you. The proposal targets registration only. Once your account exists, use a VPN freely, every day, forever.​

"Determined people will bypass it anyway."

Correct, and irrelevant. Security is about raising cost, not achieving perfection. Locks don't stop lockpickers; they stop everyone else. Most ban evasion is lazy and opportunistic — a registration barrier removes the majority of it.​

"Some users need a VPN to access the site at all."

Valid — and solvable. A manual approval route (see below) covers genuine cases without leaving the door open by default.​

"This will cost us new members."

A small number, yes. But an unmoderatable forum loses far more members — quietly, permanently, and exactly the ones worth keeping.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 5. The Proposal

Deliberately minimal. Maximum effect, minimum friction.

1. Block account creation from known VPN, proxy and datacenter IP ranges.
   
   Registration only. Nothing else.​
2. Do not block browsing or logging in.
   
   Existing members are unaffected, period.​
3. Show a clear error message, not a dead page.
   
   "Registration is not available over VPN. Disable it to sign up.​
4. Publish a transparent rules guide.
   
   Every member should know exactly what is allowed and what isn't. I'm happy to write this up if the proposal goes through.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 6. What Changes For You

• Already have an account? Nothing changes. Nothing at all.
• Use a VPN daily? Keep using it. Log in and post as always.
• Registering a new account? Turn the VPN off for two minutes, or message staff.
• Evading a ban? This is for you.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 7. Bottom Line

We want a forum where rules can actually be enforced and where members feel safe. That is only possible if the barrier to anonymous abuse accounts stays high.

We should consistently prevent accounts
from being created over VPN on .com.

That is how the forum stays clean, safe and fair — for every one of us.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━

Thoughts, objections and counterproposals are welcome below.
Vote in the poll so staff can see where the community stands.

Spoiler: Staff Members

@draftLexy @ecoli @junebug @Nbernical @Orka @rand anon @Randomized @Starlet @TonyDr @tuberculosisinmybal @Dean

Spoiler: Online Member

@xoxo @Jimcel @Vikram007 @Seraphiel @negative @hghosttttt @Paradise @Shedontluv-U @the lavo @limo8 @zherka @TonyDr @ebadullahtrialesque @Marinetti's top guy @Doe_eyes @Dude1157 @Osiris @Angel @MasterOfTheZygo @SimuelParkioJudou @ecoli @draftLexy @Youcanalwaysimprove @ldrm @Syniq @Hector of Troy @vamp @communistdaughter @ILOVELIFE @Leynia @Hudson @junebug @daracel @jdjd123 @gatetoheaven @True_Fakecell @shhhh. @Epic09 @yyoloo @Euron @addybaddie @nanac @TiredOfDances @mabiauhp @Nobodyreallycares @highefforthreads @MrMaxwell @JDD8 @lukichhek @Orbitals @Phant0maxxer11 @Aryy @brizi is jester @vronssky @batluvr158 @MS10091079 @mustbeanotheronee @chocolatechips @SaintHamudi @vibed777 @Slayer_inTraining @Evilemofoid @Cinnamon fan64 @Mr.Hammer @fluoxetine @a7nthrax @kifykify @catlover:3 @foidslayer333iq @ZHa1gA @yojordan @MOGFOID @arlo_420 @hxllen.cc @rezonov @Randomized @cutecel @Ldar09867 @disa @looksmaxxingchud @HerculesJr. @Krisxy @Mogden @Foid @aspiringpslgodess @JRB69 @dxz @Niggard @Aromatasinq97 @nathania @Histy @solipsism @Skinstalker0 @iletheile @Currycelloser @glamourpursuer @Ascending Machine @Kronion @Blemish @copevictim @tospakz @Lenny_88ER @zombinutz @prometheus* @ascending1111 @nomad15 @Garo_LTN @Notlockedin @looksman769 @eyes33 @Cartman1 @Enphoria @broccoli

​

There isn't much things bad enough happening in this site to warrant such a change. Every degenerate who gets banned due to genuinely bad stuff is an org migrant who doesn't care about the site enough to make an alt.
I also just don't particularly trust most of the moderators with my IP, the moderation team is almost half teens who are (with no disrespect intended) not as fair as some of the older mods.
This is .org and I don't think it needs to be like org

 

[trenghost]

.

 

[Paradise]

@TonyDr is the only good mod icl ngl

 

[trenghost]

you can be the main course if you catch my drift

1. No Dating or Flirting: This is not a dating site. Do not use the forum to seek romantic relationships or engage in flirting.

 

[submissivechud]

yeah bro idk if I want @Dean knowing my full address date of birth social security number what I ate for lunch

I ate pizza

 

[trenghost]

@TonyDr is the only good mod icl ngl

what about @test

 

[submissivechud]

@TonyDr is the only good mod icl ngl

Ye ye I haven't gotten a single warning from @SimpDr , @ecoli mogs the entire mod team to oblivion

 

[Paradise]

what about @test

nah he a random

 

[trenghost]

I ate pizza

I had a fish

 

[trenghost]

nah he a random

@Dean 's alt

 

[Paradise]

@Dean 's alt

Ik

 

[ecoli]

Ye ye I haven't gotten a single warning from @SimpDr , @ecoli mogs the entire mod team to oblivion

they all mog me

 

[trenghost]

 

[trenghost]

they all mog me

only thing n***a says after he got mod is "mogs me"

 

[ecoli]

only thing n***a says after he got mod is "mogs me"

i became an npc after mod i know

 

[submissivechud]

i became an npc after mod i know

mogs me

 

[Jimcel]

VPN REGISTRATIONS ON .COM
Why We Should Stop Allowing Them

A formal proposal for staff and members

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━





━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 1. The Core Problem

We want a forum that stays clean, safe and fair — for everyone. That is not achievable while anyone can create an account behind a VPN.

A VPN masks the real IP address. Without it, linking malicious activity to a specific person becomes extremely difficult, often impossible.

Someone who covers their tracks will do things they would never risk otherwise — and walk away from it.​

This isn't about distrusting VPN users. It's about the fact that our only enforcement tool loses its teeth.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 2. What This Enables

• Ban evasion & multi-accounting
  
  Clear cookies, switch browser, switch VPN node — the banned user is back in under a minute. Bans stop being consequences and become inconveniences. Trolls return indefinitely, and staff burn hours on the same person under ten names.​
• Doxxing, blackmail & targeted harassment
  
  Personal data gets posted, threats get made, members get followed across threads — and we cannot trace the real source.
  The attacker stays anonymous. The victim does not.​
• Illegal content & platform liability
  
  With insults, hate speech, or worse, we can barely demonstrate who was behind it. That raises the legal exposure of the entire platform — and indirectly of every single member who posts here.​
• Scams and marketplace fraud
  
  Disposable accounts are the standard tool for anyone selling something they never intend to deliver. No traceability means no recourse.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 3. Why This Affects Everyone

These are not theoretical risks. Anyone participating here can become the target. One determined anonymous user is enough to poison the atmosphere for hundreds.

The imbalance is the actual issue:



Every rule we write is only as strong as our ability to enforce it. Right now, that ability is opt-out.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 4. "But VPNs Are Legitimate" — Addressing the Counterarguments

Fair objections deserve real answers, so here they are.

"I use a VPN for privacy, not abuse."

Understood — and nothing changes for you. The proposal targets registration only. Once your account exists, use a VPN freely, every day, forever.​

"Determined people will bypass it anyway."

Correct, and irrelevant. Security is about raising cost, not achieving perfection. Locks don't stop lockpickers; they stop everyone else. Most ban evasion is lazy and opportunistic — a registration barrier removes the majority of it.​

"Some users need a VPN to access the site at all."

Valid — and solvable. A manual approval route (see below) covers genuine cases without leaving the door open by default.​

"This will cost us new members."

A small number, yes. But an unmoderatable forum loses far more members — quietly, permanently, and exactly the ones worth keeping.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 5. The Proposal

Deliberately minimal. Maximum effect, minimum friction.

1. Block account creation from known VPN, proxy and datacenter IP ranges.
   
   Registration only. Nothing else.​
2. Do not block browsing or logging in.
   
   Existing members are unaffected, period.​
3. Show a clear error message, not a dead page.
   
   "Registration is not available over VPN. Disable it to sign up.​
4. Publish a transparent rules guide.
   
   Every member should know exactly what is allowed and what isn't. I'm happy to write this up if the proposal goes through.​

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 6. What Changes For You

• Already have an account? Nothing changes. Nothing at all.
• Use a VPN daily? Keep using it. Log in and post as always.
• Registering a new account? Turn the VPN off for two minutes, or message staff.
• Evading a ban? This is for you.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 7. Bottom Line

We want a forum where rules can actually be enforced and where members feel safe. That is only possible if the barrier to anonymous abuse accounts stays high.

We should consistently prevent accounts
from being created over VPN on .com.

That is how the forum stays clean, safe and fair — for every one of us.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━

Thoughts, objections and counterproposals are welcome below.
Vote in the poll so staff can see where the community stands.

Spoiler: Staff Members

@draftLexy @ecoli @junebug @Nbernical @Orka @rand anon @Randomized @Starlet @TonyDr @tuberculosisinmybal @Dean

Spoiler: Online Member

@xoxo @Jimcel @Vikram007 @Seraphiel @negative @hghosttttt @Paradise @Shedontluv-U @the lavo @limo8 @zherka @TonyDr @ebadullahtrialesque @Marinetti's top guy @Doe_eyes @Dude1157 @Osiris @Angel @MasterOfTheZygo @SimuelParkioJudou @ecoli @draftLexy @Youcanalwaysimprove @ldrm @Syniq @Hector of Troy @vamp @communistdaughter @ILOVELIFE @Leynia @Hudson @junebug @daracel @jdjd123 @gatetoheaven @True_Fakecell @shhhh. @Epic09 @yyoloo @Euron @addybaddie @nanac @TiredOfDances @mabiauhp @Nobodyreallycares @highefforthreads @MrMaxwell @JDD8 @lukichhek @Orbitals @Phant0maxxer11 @Aryy @brizi is jester @vronssky @batluvr158 @MS10091079 @mustbeanotheronee @chocolatechips @SaintHamudi @vibed777 @Slayer_inTraining @Evilemofoid @Cinnamon fan64 @Mr.Hammer @fluoxetine @a7nthrax @kifykify @catlover:3 @foidslayer333iq @ZHa1gA @yojordan @MOGFOID @arlo_420 @hxllen.cc @rezonov @Randomized @cutecel @Ldar09867 @disa @looksmaxxingchud @HerculesJr. @Krisxy @Mogden @Foid @aspiringpslgodess @JRB69 @dxz @Niggard @Aromatasinq97 @nathania @Histy @solipsism @Skinstalker0 @iletheile @Currycelloser @glamourpursuer @Ascending Machine @Kronion @Blemish @copevictim @tospakz @Lenny_88ER @zombinutz @prometheus* @ascending1111 @nomad15 @Garo_LTN @Notlockedin @looksman769 @eyes33 @Cartman1 @Enphoria @broccoli

​

very nice

 

[True Spaniard]

i became an npc after mod i know

Mogs me

 

[ecoli]

mogs me

Mogs me

thanks

 

[Shedontluv-U]

VPN REGISTRATIONS ON .COM
Why We Should Stop Allowing Them

A formal proposal for staff and members

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━





━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━​

▌ 1. The Core Problem

We want a forum that stays clean, safe and fair — for everyone. That is not achievable while anyone can create an account behind a VPN.

A VPN masks the real IP address. Without it, linking malicious activity to a specific person becomes extremely difficult, often impossible.

Someone who covers their tracks will do things they would never risk otherwise — and walk away from it.​

This isn't about distrusting VPN users. It's about the fact that our only enforcement tool loses its teeth.

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▌ 2. What This Enables

• Ban evasion & multi-accounting
  
  Clear cookies, switch browser, switch VPN node — the banned user is back in under a minute. Bans stop being consequences and become inconveniences. Trolls return indefinitely, and staff burn hours on the same person under ten names.​
• Doxxing, blackmail & targeted harassment
  
  Personal data gets posted, threats get made, members get followed across threads — and we cannot trace the real source.
  The attacker stays anonymous. The victim does not.​
• Illegal content & platform liability
  
  With insults, hate speech, or worse, we can barely demonstrate who was behind it. That raises the legal exposure of the entire platform — and indirectly of every single member who posts here.​
• Scams and marketplace fraud
  
  Disposable accounts are the standard tool for anyone selling something they never intend to deliver. No traceability means no recourse.​

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▌ 3. Why This Affects Everyone

These are not theoretical risks. Anyone participating here can become the target. One determined anonymous user is enough to poison the atmosphere for hundreds.

The imbalance is the actual issue:



Every rule we write is only as strong as our ability to enforce it. Right now, that ability is opt-out.

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▌ 4. "But VPNs Are Legitimate" — Addressing the Counterarguments

Fair objections deserve real answers, so here they are.

"I use a VPN for privacy, not abuse."

Understood — and nothing changes for you. The proposal targets registration only. Once your account exists, use a VPN freely, every day, forever.​

"Determined people will bypass it anyway."

Correct, and irrelevant. Security is about raising cost, not achieving perfection. Locks don't stop lockpickers; they stop everyone else. Most ban evasion is lazy and opportunistic — a registration barrier removes the majority of it.​

"Some users need a VPN to access the site at all."

Valid — and solvable. A manual approval route (see below) covers genuine cases without leaving the door open by default.​

"This will cost us new members."

A small number, yes. But an unmoderatable forum loses far more members — quietly, permanently, and exactly the ones worth keeping.​

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▌ 5. The Proposal

Deliberately minimal. Maximum effect, minimum friction.

1. Block account creation from known VPN, proxy and datacenter IP ranges.
   
   Registration only. Nothing else.​
2. Do not block browsing or logging in.
   
   Existing members are unaffected, period.​
3. Show a clear error message, not a dead page.
   
   "Registration is not available over VPN. Disable it to sign up.​
4. Publish a transparent rules guide.
   
   Every member should know exactly what is allowed and what isn't. I'm happy to write this up if the proposal goes through.​

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▌ 6. What Changes For You

• Already have an account? Nothing changes. Nothing at all.
• Use a VPN daily? Keep using it. Log in and post as always.
• Registering a new account? Turn the VPN off for two minutes, or message staff.
• Evading a ban? This is for you.

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▌ 7. Bottom Line

We want a forum where rules can actually be enforced and where members feel safe. That is only possible if the barrier to anonymous abuse accounts stays high.

We should consistently prevent accounts
from being created over VPN on .com.

That is how the forum stays clean, safe and fair — for every one of us.

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Thoughts, objections and counterproposals are welcome below.
Vote in the poll so staff can see where the community stands.

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