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[Chifuyu]

SMV is meaningless to me, because it measures a lot of aspects of attractiveness which are superficial. Sure money and status will increase your ability to pull women, but will it make them genuinely love and desire you?


If the men in the pictures I showed were all zero status guys, I wonder who would suceeed the most

I would say SMV is more important, you can be high in PSL as a brown guy but still get SMVmogged by an LTN white dude.

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

So many retards in incel spaces are coping about them simply because they don't meet white beauty standards. I'm not East Asian myself, I am unironically more objective than you are, since you're white so of course you don't want to accept the truth. As a shitskin myself I get to be way more objective than you.

calling yourself a shitskin as an ethnic is so cucked, jfl


but once again, coping with "muh eurocentric beauty" isn't valid here.

The main flaws that k pop idols suffer from, is a lack of bonemass and dimorphism. It is mostly the asian race that suffers from this, not any other race.


Blacks, whites, meds, native americans, and most groups you can think of have decent dimorphism.

 

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[AClonedTyrone]

So many retards in incel spaces are coping about them simply because they don't meet white beauty standards. I'm not East Asian myself, I am unironically more objective than you are, since you're white so of course you don't want to accept the truth. As a shitskin myself I get to be way more objective than you.

Don’t call yourself a shitskin ew self hating ethnics are worse than nazis

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

Don’t call yourself a shitskin ew self hating ethnics are worse than nazis

my first thread was about this, self hating ethnics piss me off so much

 

[AClonedTyrone]

I would say SMV is more important, you can be high in PSL as a brown guy but still get SMVmogged by an LTN white dude.

who you thinks a girls choosing dude

 

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[Deleted Member 118059]

I would say SMV is more important, you can be high in PSL as a brown guy but still get SMVmogged by an LTN white dude.

this is ridiculous, no you don't.

You could make the argument that on average, whites will have better faces, but the idea that its some massive jump like:



White ltn = ethnic htn is just wrong

 

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[Chifuyu]

calling yourself a shitskin as an ethnic is so cucked, jfl


but once again, coping with "muh eurocentric beauty" isn't valid here.

The main flaws that k pop idols suffer from, is a lack of bonemass and dimorphism. It is mostly the asian race that suffers from this, not any other race.


Blacks, whites, meds, native americans, and most groups you can think of have decent dimorphism.

They don't suffer from any flaws because they still get simped for. But guys cope about that. Either they cope with a lack of white beauty standards or dimo. As if the twink prettyboy isn't going to be lusted after more than the meathead ltns, but still guys cope with muh dimorphism. JFL.

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

there are asian men with dimo just more rare
this mother fucker is a ugly fuck with no dimo and is racist to his own race and dick suck ugly kpop men
just rope holy fuck

my point is you can't play the racecard when your race lacks an ideal trait, you should just try to optimize your own phenotype.

 

[AClonedTyrone]

untill a chad walks in

Again you’re coming from a european perspective, for them prettier men are considered chad’s or changs. Felix was rated by koreans to be one of the most attractive men alive in korea

 

[Chifuyu]

Don’t call yourself a shitskin ew self hating ethnics are worse than nazis

Calling myself ethnic would be self hating wouldn't it? It's a pejorative aimed at brown people even though it's a neutral term but low iq incels use it for brown people only lol

 

[AClonedTyrone]

Calling myself ethnic would be self hating wouldn't it? It's a pejorative aimed at brown people even though it's a neutral term but low iq incels use it for brown people only lol

I use ethnic cus it’s just a common phrase on here, i prefer person of color

 

[Chifuyu]

this is ridiculous, no you don't.

You could make the argument that on average, whites will have better faces, but the idea that its some massive jump like:



White ltn = ethnic htn is just wrong

Go over at .org and you'll have lots of guys saying that guys like Salludon get mogged by sub-chads whites because of race. I don't agree with it either since mogging should be about PSL.

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

They don't suffer from any flaws because they still get simped for. But guys cope about that. Either they cope with a lack of white beauty standards or dimo. As if the twink prettyboy isn't going to be lusted after more than the meathead ltns, but still guys cope with muh dimorphism. JFL.

yes, this only works when you are statusmaxxed. In any other life scenario, looking like a kpop idol (even if you're htn) will drop your intermale respect to zero, and women will see you as "cute" rather than hot


Which isn't bad, but not nearly as good as just being a high dimo chad of any race

 

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[Chifuyu]

who you thinks a girls choosing dude



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If they were both unknown? First guy. If they were both famous? First guy. As it currently stands? Second guy. He's got so much money and status that they will pick him anyway.

 

[Chifuyu]

there are asian men with dimo just more rare
this mother fucker is a ugly fuck with no dimo and is racist to his own race and dick suck ugly kpop men
just rope holy fuck

Keep crying bud. You're just mad those kpop idols are wanted while you rot on incel forums.

 

[AClonedTyrone]

my point is you can't play the racecard when your race lacks an ideal trait, you should just try to optimize your own phenotype.

That’s the thing no one race lacks an ideal trait. Different races have DIFFERENT ideal traits and trying to superimpose features crosspheno creates eldrith horrors. Theres good looking black men good looking white men and good looking asian men all with different “ideal features” for their race

 

[Chifuyu]

I use ethnic cus it’s just a common phrase on here, i prefer person of color

Yeah lots of people here in these incel or looksmaxxing spaces use it, I would say brown or POC as well.

 

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[Chifuyu]

yes, this only works when you are statusmaxxed. In any other life scenario, looking like a kpop idol (even if you're htn) will drop your intermale respect to zero, and women will see you as "cute" rather than hot


Which isn't bad, but not nearly as good as just being a high dimo chad of any race

I agree, you won't get respect from guys but I don't get why you want respect from guys. I would rather be a cute twink who can get any girl he wants rather than a meathead ogre who gets glazed by guys. That's just me though.

 

[Chifuyu]

wow your so tuff your so cool

you saying that while hating on your own race seems hypocritical

You told me to rope just because I disagreed with you. I'm not the internet tuff guy here.

 

[foidslayer]

That's all irrelevant. Everyone knows they're wearing makeup, but girls still want them. Meanwhile you wear makeup and the same girls call you a f****t. It's pretty funny.

You’re showing a lack of iq here in afraid. In east asia, feminine men are the beauty standard. It’s us nit a country that bends to the view of europeans. They quite literally perform bone shaving surgeries on men that are too masculine in order to fit in.

for some reason i dont see many people thirst over koshi mizukami and haruma

if this is unattractive to them they're actually delusional

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

That’s the thing no one race lacks an ideal trait. Different races have DIFFERENT ideal traits and trying to superimpose features crosspheno creates eldrith horrors. Theres good looking black men good looking white men and good looking asian men all with different “ideal features” for their race

i'm speaking for westerners here, my bad if it feels like im imposing objective beauty standards here


my point is, in the west, a lot of ethnic phenos lack ideal traits


Just as a few examples:



Blacks: prognatism

Asians: flat maxilla

Indians: caucasian features with dark skin (seen as a failo by some, not all)

Arabs: Pretty similar to whites actually, but they suffer from a lot of stigmas associated with them



Acknowledging these flaws (in western regions) isn't eurocentric, you're just acknowledging the beauty standards in your region without trying to cope with them. It's no mystery that a majority white region is going to have beauty standards that skew European

 

[Chifuyu]

wow your so tuff your so cool

you saying that while hating on your own race seems hypocritical

And who says I hate my own race lol?

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

I agree, you won't get respect from guys but I don't get why you want respect from guys. I would rather be a cute twink who can get any girl he wants rather than a meathead ogre who gets glazed by guys. That's just me though.

fair, having friends is just important for me since there are certain things you can only do with guys (like sports)

 

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[Chifuyu]

for some reason i dont see many people thirst over koshi mizukami and haruma

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if this is unattractive to them they're actually delusional

Miura mogs hard, you won't find a better-looking East Asian IMO. But the problem is, he gets simped for by j-drama fans but j-drama fans are a very small pool compared to k-drama fans, and even k-drama fans get dwarfed by k-pop fans.

 

[foidslayer]

yeah exactly, there are good looking asian man like this and they are very attractive these copecells are just mad as hell and say i am eurocentric and dont understad smv

same girls that thirst over kpop idols would date me and tell me i look better than them

being a "kpop fan" is more about fetishizing asians than being attracted to the idols themselves

 

[Chifuyu]

fair, having friends is just important for me since there are certain things you can only do with guys (like sports)

True friends will respect you regardless of how you look. I'm a chubby guy with no appeal and still I have two true friends. I have more but two I would consider my best friends IRL.

 

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[foidslayer]

True friends will respect you regardless of how you look. I'm a chubby guy with no appeal and still I have two true friends. I have more but two I would consider my best friends IRL.

honest to god sure looks help you with male respect and all but it mostly comes down to how you act and how masculine you really are

 

[Chifuyu]

same girls that thirst over kpop idols would date me and tell me i look better than them

being a "kpop fan" is more about fetishizing asians than being attracted to the idols themselves

To be fair they could never get a kpop idol as their bf anyway. Also, is fetishizing not the same as attraction? They would still get railed by them if they could but they're unreachable.

 

[AClonedTyrone]

i'm speaking for westerners here, my bad if it feels like im imposing objective beauty standards here


my point is, in the west, a lot of ethnic phenos lack ideal traits


Just as a few examples:



Blacks: prognatism

Asians: flat maxilla

Indians: caucasian features with dark skin (seen as a failo by some, not all)

Arabs: Pretty similar to whites actually, but they suffer from a lot of stigmas associated with them



Acknowledging these flaws (in western regions) isn't eurocentric, you're just acknowledging the beauty standards in your region without trying to cope with them. It's no mystery that a majority white region is going to have beauty standards that skew European

Im a westerner myself and as i’ve said even those unideal traits normally harmonize with other festures, the guy in my pfp has prognaism, so does damson idris so did xxxtentacion, all considered very attractive men in the west. Even Asians with flat maxilla’s it just fits with the rest of their features. In the west, 85 percent of incels are white did you know that

 

[foidslayer]

To be fair they could never get a kpop idol as their bf anyway. Also, is fetishizing not the same as attraction? They would still get railed by them if they could but they're unreachable.

they'd only get railed because of the statuspill honestly

imo even some parts of south asia mog east asia (the richer side)

 

[Chifuyu]

honest to god sure looks help you with male respect and all but it mostly comes down to how you act and how masculine you really are

I don't act masculine at all, just normal. But I don't care about male respect. I couldn't care less if random guys respect me or not. Just as long as they don't try to pull some BS in front of my face, then I'll put them in their place. They usually do it behind my back, lol.

 

[foidslayer]

I don't act masculine at all, just normal. But I don't care about male respect. I couldn't care less if random guys respect me or not. Just as long as they don't try to pull some BS in front of my face, then I'll put them in their place. They usually do it behind my back, lol.

if all they can do is talk about you behind their back then that's truly their place, behind you.

 

[Chifuyu]

they'd only get railed because of the statuspill honestly

imo even some parts of south asia mog east asia (the richer side)

Status pill helps but they find them attractive as well. Women don't simp for artists they consider to be ugly. There's ugly guys with way more talent who get overlooked simply because they're not cute/hot.

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

Im a westerner myself and as i’ve said even those u ideal traits normally harmonize with other festures, the guy in my pfp has prognaism, so does damson idris so did xxxtentacion, all considered very attractive men in the west. Even Asians with flat maxilla’s it just fits with the rest of their features. In the west, 85 percent of incels are white did you know that

Which is why I said you should often aim to harmonize your phenotype's traits, even if they are unideal within your region


its why skin whitening is a dumb ass idea for the majority of ethnics, since you will just look uncanny and subhuman

Not here to fight any racewars though, racebait is for .org

 

[foidslayer]

Status pill helps but they find them attractive as well. Women don't simp for artists they consider to be ugly. There's ugly guys with way more talent who get overlooked simply because they're not cute/hot.

I've never seen a woman over the age of 16 be a kpop stan (maybe one in my whole life)

their features are extremely feminine, so id understand why younger women would like them but at the end of the day masculinity mogs

 

[Chifuyu]

if all they can do is talk about you behind their back then that's truly their place, behind you.

Mirin mentality bhai haha. It helps that I look facially masculine. When my beard is long, I notice the treatment is different. Random guys tend to break eye contact much sooner. I also notice guys only act like dicks if they're in groups, never does someone who's alone try to give me shit. I admit sometimes I do think I should get beefed up so that even in groups they'll act normal but then they win because I would be putting that much effort to change myself just to intimidate them.

 

[midori]

this title is a lie.

 

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[Chifuyu]

I've never seen a woman over the age of 16 be a kpop stan (maybe one in my whole life)

their features are extremely feminine, so id understand why younger women would like them but at the end of the day masculinity mogs

Kpop fans are usually younger girls, yeah. They grow out of it eventually, usually around 20. But I think older women still do watch k-drama. I know women in their early 20s and early 30s who watch it. And one of them is a niqabi MENA (early 20s) the other is a West African dating a muscular/wide-framed tyrone (basically my friend). I don't really talk to women so I don't know any more fans. I just happened to know by accident.

 

[foidslayer]

Kpop fans are usually younger girls, yeah. They grow out of it eventually, usually around 20. But I think older women still do watch k-drama. I know women in their early 20s and early 30s who watch it. And one of them is a niqabi MENA (early 20s) the other is a West African dating a muscular/wide-framed tyrone (basically my friend). I don't really talk to women so I don't know any more fans. I just happened to know by accident.

nothing wrong with kdrama or cdrama they're really entertaining tho

 

[Chifuyu]

i genuinely do not take you seriously because how the fuck you called your own race "shitskin" you are weird as fuck

Calling myself a shitskin doesn't mean I hate my race/culture though.

 

[Chifuyu]

nothing wrong with kdrama or cdrama they're really entertaining tho

Agreed, the tyrone in my previous post watches kdrama as well, I also got into kdrama recently. Really high T and violent stuff though, not those drama types.