19, can i ascend with rhino + genio?

[comptax]

starting to look into hardmaxxing, but im trying to determine if it’ll even be worth it. i don’t wanna pay tens of thousands to be ltb.

right now my number #1 priority is genio— ik bimax/djs would probably be more suitable for my shit recession but it’s not feasible between the cost + recovery time. important to note that side pics r with proper tongue posture, i look more shit when talking from the side while i can’t maintain it. #2 is rhinoplasty and #3 priority is something for my hollow under eyes, maybe lower bleph or fat transfer, but that’s something i could go without in the end.

r these enough to ascend to high mtb/low htb or am i cooked regardless ? rating/suggestions? ik my forehead and ears r big, idc i bangfraud

 

[Hyaluronic]

I wonder where do foids learn all these words like “hardmaxxing”. Org is objectively more popular so most tiktok greys come there and then immigrate here if they want to. But where do foids emigrate from with all this knowledge

 

[Born Superior]

starting to look into hardmaxxing, but im trying to determine if it’ll even be worth it. i don’t wanna pay tens of thousands to be ltb.

right now my number #1 priority is genio— ik bimax/djs would probably be more suitable for my shit recession but it’s not feasible between the cost + recovery time. important to note that side pics r with proper tongue posture, i look more shit when talking from the side while i can’t maintain it. #2 is rhinoplasty and #3 priority is something for my hollow under eyes, maybe lower bleph or fat transfer, but that’s something i could go without in the end.

r these enough to ascend to high mtb/low htb or am i cooked regardless ? rating/suggestions? ik my forehead and ears r big, idc i bangfraud

yeah and makeup max

 

[comptax]

I wonder where do foids learn all these words like “hardmaxxing”. Org is objectively more popular so most tiktok greys come there and then immigrate here if they want to. But where do foids emigrate from with all this knowledge

i’ve been lurking w no account on looksmax forums since like 15

 

[Hyaluronic]

Also even though I don’t asses females, Ion think you need rhino tbh. Genio fs, but imo rhino won’t ascend you much cuz your nose already looks okay

 

[Hyaluronic]

i’ve been lurking w no account on looksmax forums since like 15

Holy fuck. I just imagine what happens to your brain after reading so much misogyny on org. You probably develop some fucked up psycho disorder or sum

 

[comptax]

Also even though I don’t asses females, Ion think you need rhino tbh. Genio fs, but imo rhino won’t ascend you much cuz your nose already looks okay

meh maybe. jaw is law and i wanna fix it first, if nose looks ok after jaw is improved ill save myself the money. but otherwise rhino will be good to increase dimorphism

 

[Hyaluronic]

meh maybe. jaw is law and i wanna fix it first, if nose looks ok after jaw is improved ill save myself the money. but otherwise rhino will be good to increase dimorphism

Jaw is not law for females imo

 

[Hyaluronic]

meh maybe. jaw is law and i wanna fix it first, if nose looks ok after jaw is improved ill save myself the money. but otherwise rhino will be good to increase dimorphism

Well that’s a good thought process, you give off high iq foid vibes. A button nose will defo increase your dimo and the main factor in the favor of rhino is low input/risk

 

[comptax]

Jaw is not law for females imo

it’s less important than for men but every beautiful woman i notice has great jaw + forward growth. i guess personal aesthetic preferences matter there but i find it very appealing, + i think it’s one of the biggest factors of someone looking beautiful ‘in motion’ as they look good from any angle/expression rather than just posed n from the front

 

[comptax]

yeah and makeup max

yeah i will for sure. feels like wasted effort rn without the right foundation for it but will change after genio

 

[Born Superior]

yeah i will for sure. feels like wasted effort rn without the right foundation for it but will change after genio

your chin is not that bad and with enough makeup you'll be prettu

 

[Hyaluronic]

it’s less important than for men but every beautiful woman i notice has great jaw + forward growth. i guess personal aesthetic preferences matter there but i find it very appealing, + i think it’s one of the biggest factors of someone looking beautiful ‘in motion’ as they look good from any angle/expression rather than just posed n from the front

Holy fuck high iq foid I wanna marry you

 

[Hyaluronic]

your chin is not that bad and with enough makeup you'll be prettu

It’s very short from the front. Looks fine cuz she’s foid but increasing the heighr would help balance out her longish midface

 

[Hyaluronic]

it’s less important than for men but every beautiful woman i notice has great jaw + forward growth. i guess personal aesthetic preferences matter there but i find it very appealing, + i think it’s one of the biggest factors of someone looking beautiful ‘in motion’ as they look good from any angle/expression rather than just posed n from the front

As somebody who is getting gradual chin improvements through chin fillers I can tell you that chin is one of the biggest things to influence your “in motion” (especially “talking”) look.

However, jaw is not law on women because an average white girl has a good enough mandible to look consistent in motion, where other things like eyes and lips come into play. Whereas for men jaw and especially chin are both extremely important dimo indicators

 

[comptax]

As somebody who is getting gradual chin improvements through chin fillers I can tell you that chin is one of the biggest things to influence your “in motion” (especially “talking”) look.

However, jaw is not law on women because an average white girl has a good enough mandible to look consistent in motion, where other things like eyes and lips come into play. Whereas for men jaw and especially chin are both extremely important dimo indicators

yea most women have enough good features to cancel out a mid jaw and it be fine n even add to their dimo. it can be a soft feminine look. my sisters like that, rest of her features are very feminine so she doesn’t suffer aesthetically from having a gentler jaw. just doesn’t work 4 me tho, eye + lip areas are bad and can’t make up for it. chin is too weak and goes bad with nose, especially in motion. bad bones, genio will hopefully fix it enough

 

[Hyaluronic]

yea most women have enough good features to cancel out a mid jaw and it be fine n even add to their dimo. it can be a soft feminine look. my sisters like that, rest of her features are very feminine so she doesn’t suffer aesthetically from having a gentler jaw. just doesn’t work 4 me tho, eye + lip areas are bad and can’t make up for it. chin is too weak and goes bad with nose, especially in motion. bad bones, genio will hopefully fix it enough

Your lips are okay, eye area is meh. Your main flaw imo is a longish midface because it fucks up your thirds due to a peanut sized chin

 

[comptax]

Your lips are okay, eye area is meh. Your main flaw imo is a longish midface because it fucks up your thirds due to a peanut sized chin

yeah it’s pretty cooked

 

[Hyaluronic]

yeah it’s pretty cooked

Dw if you just wanna get guys they’re still gonna like you for who you are
If you’re autistic about your looks for no reason then it’s over

 

[comptax]

will a good genio (n possibly rhino and/or undereye procedure if necessary) ascend me to mtb tho? or is it probably not worth it/will stay ltb? if im gonna be stuck in low elo regardless im just gonna give up on looksmaxxing and accept it

 

[Hyaluronic]

will a good genio (n possibly rhino and/or undereye procedure if necessary) ascend me to mtb tho? or is it probably not worth it/will stay ltb? if im gonna be stuck in low elo regardless im just gonna give up on looksmaxxing and accept it

Cant say much, Id already give you lmtb but Im bad at rating girls

 

[PingPong]

i dont see the need for rhino. Ur nose is fine.

 

[comptax]

i dont see the need for rhino. Ur nose is fine.

not horrific but could be made better, no dimorphic appeal imo

 

[PingPong]

not horrific but could be made better, no dimorphic appeal imo

i think improving your midface would be the best bet. I wouldn't spend money on any procedures and just save up for bimax, personally. I get that it's a pain in the ass and it's really expensive but if you have to wait years of saving to get it, it would be worth imo. it would ascend you hard.

 

[comptax]

i think improving your midface would be the best bet. I wouldn't spend money on any procedures and just save up for bimax, personally. I get that it's a pain in the ass and it's really expensive but if you have to wait years of saving to get it, it would be worth imo. it would ascend you hard.

yeah it would definitely be the best aesthetically but i’d get like zero insurance cover, and idk what i’d do for the long recovery time 🫩 i don’t think it’ll ever be feasible in my life. by the time i would be able to get it i’d be past the years where attractiveness yields the highest benefits— id rather be able to improve somewhat while im still in college, rather than be totally chopped thru my whole youth and only be able to fix my face when im in my late 20’s

 

[PingPong]

yeah it would definitely be the best aesthetically but i’d get like zero insurance cover, and idk what i’d do for the long recovery time 🫩 i don’t think it’ll ever be feasible in my life. by the time i would be able to get it i’d be past the years where attractiveness yields the highest benefits— id rather be able to improve somewhat while im still in college, rather than be totally chopped thru my whole youth and only be able to fix my face when im in my late 20’s

makeupmaxx and get a sugar daddy to buy it for you

 

[comptax]

makeupmaxx and get a sugar daddy to buy it for you

i wish

 

[Hyaluronic]

i wish

Even fat ltbs can find sugar daddies tbh

 

[comptax]

Even fat ltbs can find sugar daddies tbh

tbh looksmax forums rlly overestimate n misunderstand the smv of a mid woman. maybe u can find guys who want to pump and dump if u rlly put urself out there, but definitely not guys who want to buy u stuff lol

 

[Hyaluronic]

tbh looksmax forums rlly overestimate n misunderstand the smv of a mid woman. maybe u can find guys who want to pump and dump if u rlly put urself out there, but definitely not guys who want to buy u stuff lol

Ugh.. A lot of guys have a mindset of “I use you as a sex doll, you use me as a wallet”. You could have a few of these whorish typa relationship and get enough money from them. And it won’t even be immoral because dumb enough to be okay with that jfl

 

[comptax]

Ugh.. A lot of guys have a mindset of “I use you as a sex doll, you use me as a wallet”. You could have a few of these whorish typa relationship and get enough money from them. And it won’t even be immoral because dumb enough to be okay with that jfl

guys who have that mindset r trying to be in the transactional relationship of they receive beauty/sex and the woman receives money. of course they aren’t going to choose an ugly/mid woman to be with when they r paying for her beauty lol, there r actual good looking women seeking out that type of relationship

 

[Hyaluronic]

guys who have that mindset r trying to be in the transactional relationship of they receive beauty/sex and the woman receives money. of course they aren’t going to choose an ugly/mid woman to be with when they r paying for her beauty lol

You can build a decentish body still. Also your base is good enough to fraud with makeup to where these guys will perceive you as attractive. Again, an average dumb joe can’t differentiate between a softmaxxed makeupfrauded Beckie and a true Stacy. And that’s the kinda guys youd find. And most of them don’t even have relationships like that, all they do is just keep rosters so they’re not “closed” from you

 

[comptax]

You can build a decentish body still. Also your base is good enough to fraud with makeup to where these guys will perceive you as attractive. Again, an average dumb joe can’t differentiate between a softmaxxed makeupfrauded Beckie and a true Stacy. And that’s the kinda guys youd find. And most of them don’t even have relationships like that, all they do is just keep rosters so they’re not “closed” from you

i wouldn’t wanna do that sort of thing anyways, but if i did try i def wouldn’t have as much luck as ur saying lol. most girls r bad af nowadays it’s high elo

 

[Hyaluronic]

i wouldn’t wanna do that sort of thing anyways, but if i did try i def wouldn’t have as much luck as ur saying lol. most girls r bad af nowadays it’s high elo

You do realize that “most girls are bad af” means that an average lmtb just looks good. Statistics don’t work in a way where htb or lltb is the average, the average will never shift but it’s quality will. And you’re not that far from average imo so you can still pull it of. Again, an average joe can’t spot a stacy among makeupmaxxed lmtbs. But yeah, if you don’t wanna do that sorta thing fair play to you, just careermaxx and get your money up that way

 

[Ascendmaxxer__]

starting to look into hardmaxxing, but im trying to determine if it’ll even be worth it. i don’t wanna pay tens of thousands to be ltb.

right now my number #1 priority is genio— ik bimax/djs would probably be more suitable for my shit recession but it’s not feasible between the cost + recovery time. important to note that side pics r with proper tongue posture, i look more shit when talking from the side while i can’t maintain it. #2 is rhinoplasty and #3 priority is something for my hollow under eyes, maybe lower bleph or fat transfer, but that’s something i could go without in the end.

r these enough to ascend to high mtb/low htb or am i cooked regardless ? rating/suggestions? ik my forehead and ears r big, idc i bangfraud

The honest truth is you dont need hardmaxxing like that, however, if you want to do it you need to do it correctly. You only get one shot when it comes to facial surgery. Genio is not for you. Girls aren't supposed to have insane chin projection, and your chin projection is already optimal for a female. If you get a genio, the ratio to of your chin projection to mandible length to will look super shit and uncanny.

Also, DO NOT get a rhino. Your nose is already great, and it will look weird and uncanny. Additionally, getting forward advancement on your maxilla through a djs improves the tilt of your nose, so it will upturn even more, if thats what you are looking for.

Your issue is simply sub optimal forward growth. Low forward growth on the maxilla, as well as low upward growth, causing your zygos, and midface and under eye support to sink. With the recessed maxilla, during development, your mandible lagged behind as well. Most likely mouth breathed growing up, like most of us in here. I would highly recommend waiting for your finances and logistics to be in check before you do any hardmaxxes, and when you do, do it correctly. A double jaw surgery is absolutely the best choice, but it won't help the zygos, midface support, and under eyes. To help the zygos, and support your under eye area, you need a more expanded maxilla; you need MARPE. The marpe needs to be done before the djs, as after the djs your bones might not be stable enough for it to work safely. Be careful with MARPE, as if they put it towards the front of your mouth it can cause your nose to expand and not much zygo lift. Make sure you tell them to place it as far back in your mouth as possible.

ive put some images of marpe results so you can see the drastic effect it has on midface and under eye support and zygos, and ive also put an image of the djs bringing up the nose. You should easily be able to tell the before and after.

 

[sillyrobot23]

starting to look into hardmaxxing, but im trying to determine if it’ll even be worth it. i don’t wanna pay tens of thousands to be ltb.

right now my number #1 priority is genio— ik bimax/djs would probably be more suitable for my shit recession but it’s not feasible between the cost + recovery time. important to note that side pics r with proper tongue posture, i look more shit when talking from the side while i can’t maintain it. #2 is rhinoplasty and #3 priority is something for my hollow under eyes, maybe lower bleph or fat transfer, but that’s something i could go without in the end.

r these enough to ascend to high mtb/low htb or am i cooked regardless ? rating/suggestions? ik my forehead and ears r big, idc i bangfraud

you dont need rhino your nose looks fine

 

[spear]

starting to look into hardmaxxing, but im trying to determine if it’ll even be worth it. i don’t wanna pay tens of thousands to be ltb.

right now my number #1 priority is genio— ik bimax/djs would probably be more suitable for my shit recession but it’s not feasible between the cost + recovery time. important to note that side pics r with proper tongue posture, i look more shit when talking from the side while i can’t maintain it. #2 is rhinoplasty and #3 priority is something for my hollow under eyes, maybe lower bleph or fat transfer, but that’s something i could go without in the end.

r these enough to ascend to high mtb/low htb or am i cooked regardless ? rating/suggestions? ik my forehead and ears r big, idc i bangfraud

you can fraud the shit out of most of your flaws with makeup