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True all, especially 4. Women date men who are confident. Looks dont matter a whole ton. Also side is so important. I think my side carries my whole face since my frontal profile is pretty mid1 - Physique doesn't matter
2 - Tooth extractions ruin faces
3 - Side profile doesn't matter
4 - Women usually date men better looking than them (hypergamy)
yeah but what 4 implies is that not always women date men more good-looking than them, confidence is key thoughTrue all, especially 4. Women date men who are confident. Looks dont matter a whole ton. Also side is so important. I think my side carries my whole face since my frontal profile is pretty mid
Yeah, muscles could be nearly as important as frame.1 - Physique doesn't matter
Eh, it's a gamble. Some people get severely recessed after tooth extractions.2 - Tooth extractions ruin faces
Yeah. Overall cranofacial structure is the pillar of attraction.3 - Side profile doesn't matter
Yeah, personality plays a far bigger role in relationships than beauty.4 - Women usually date men better looking than them (hypergamy)
Do you have examples? I have a friend who deadass ascended and became chadlite after getting like 6-8 extractions. It could've been 8 extractions nglEh, it's a gamble. Some people get severely recessed after tooth extractions.
you just have to look good enough, i think im pretty decently looking and my general experience with women reaffirms that. i still slay less than my more NT friends who are also shorter plus have a worse physique. it's legit all in the confidence you just have to believe that you can pull and you will. if you're on here its automatically harder for you to pull since you're more likely to be less NTyeah but what 4 implies is that not always women date men more good-looking than them, confidence is key though
whenever I see a dude with less than ideal clavicle width I automatically think hes a bitch. it definitely does matterPhysique doesn't matter
if the girl really likes you yeah it doesn't but It always adds more pointsPhysique doesn't matter
im saying all those things are commonly said by looksmaxxers but are not truecorrect x 4. if you are not being sarcastic, that is
Guy on left looks homeless and would look way better with muscles. Compare the guy on the left to a jacked chad
take the one outlier chad and cope saying its ok to have narrow clavicles, like im talking about the average dude for which it does matter and it does add more appeal, plus jon would look insanely more masc with a better physique
right one looks more intimidating, hes right
im saying all those things are commonly said by looksmaxxers but are not true
Do you have examples? I have a friend who deadass ascended and became chadlite after getting like 6-8 extractions. It could've been 8 extractions ngl
All it did is pull his mouth area back (Alveolar process bones) and this actually helped him because his mouth was protruding
If you have a mandibular protrusion, it will help. But it will make the average person look worse.Extractions are good if you have bimaxilliary protrusion which makes your mouth overprotrude. My friend had that situation and it only helped him, definitely no negative effect
holy cope, face always mogs body to gh and back
Waterholy cope, face always mogs body to gh and back
his face and height is enough and his body isn't that bad
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Face being more important than body doesn't mean body is completely cope, that's classic low iq black and white thinking. For example a muscular htn is significantly more attractive than a skinny htn, it's night and day.holy cope, face always mogs body to gh and back
his face and height is enough and his body isn't that bad
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Yeah I’ve had tooth extractions and still have ideal forward growth1 - Physique doesn't matter
2 - Tooth extractions ruin faces
3 - Side profile doesn't matter
4 - Women usually date men better looking than them (hypergamy)
It's not. Men overrate other men hard. And they usually underrate womenTrue, but hypergamy is real.
Yes, if you average out every long-term relationship the looks might be the same.
The hypergamy argument is really about the selection pressure and how assymetrical it is. (Women filter men perceived same or less way easily, than men do)
Well that's just not true.It's not. Men overrate other men hard. And they usually underrate women
Show me the science then. I swear all the time on .org it's just guys overrating the shit out of guys who look like they don't shower and then are confused that they are incel lolWell that's just not true.
It's clearly scientifically established.
you used him not me lol, also his body appeals to most women, if a more muscular body were more appealing he would build more muscle since it's his j*b to sell stuffFace being more important than body doesn't mean body is completely cope, that's classic low iq black and white thinking. For example a muscular htn is significantly more attractive than a skinny htn, it's night and day.
Using jon kortajarena who is chad facially and some even say is the best looking man of all time is a retarded example lol
I didn't use him, the other guy sent Jon...you used him not me lol, also his body appeals to most women, if a better body were more appealing he would build more muscle since it's his j*b to sell stuff
I'm on phone, not gonna link shit, but. Cmon.Show me the science then. I swear all the time on .org it's just guys overrating the shit out of guys who look like they don't shower and then are confused that they are incel lol
I didn't use him, the other guy sent Jon...
And no that's not true, models in general are typically skinny. like for example female models are skinny af and that's not even appealing to most men. Most men don't like female models for example.
I've seen this tons of times. What does it even mean. Like how do we know what the men even looked like. What if all the men were 40 year old balding subhumansI'm on phone, not gonna link shit, but. Cmon.
I mean even this meme picture. There're countless studies, online or in real life. Just read them yourself.
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Yeah you're insanely dumb, I used jon there because the guy before me sent Jon.. Unless you have him on ignoreView attachment 132287
a more muscular body wouldn't improve his looks, right is male gaze and like mid-late twenties female gaze
If you think right is male gaze then idek what to say. That's not even that muscular. Left is anorexic. I've seen plenty of ltn-mtn muscular guys do solid on dating apps. Them skinny would do way worseView attachment 132287
a more muscular body wouldn't improve his looks, right is male gaze and like mid-late twenties female gaze
Kinda hyperbolic assumptions you have.I've seen this tons of times. What does it even mean. Like how do we know what the men even looked like. What if all the men were 40 year old balding subhumans
It's not hyperbolic. I remember seeing somewhere that one of the studies about this (could have been the exact one you sent) literally had Ryan gosling as a top 1% male LOL. he's averageKinda hyperbolic assumptions you have.
I'm just saying, kinda bold to assume hypergamy isn't real when It's been scientifically established in many studies.
That doesn’t matter though. Even if they date men who are on the same level of attractiveness as them, they will still be drawn to men they perceive as “better”.yeah but what 4 implies is that not always women date men more good-looking than them, confidence is key though
Yeah you're insanely dumb, I used jon there because the guy before me sent Jon.. Unless you have him on ignore
pointless to argue, agree to disagree?If you think right is male gaze then idek what to say. That's not even that muscular. Left is anorexic. I've seen plenty of ltn-mtn muscular guys do solid on dating apps. Them skinny would do way worse
lol ok1 - Physique doesn't matter
2 - Tooth extractions ruin faces
3 - Side profile doesn't matter
4 - Women usually date men better looking than them (hypergamy)
Which ones of those do you agree with. All of them are egregiouslol ok