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True all, especially 4. Women date men who are confident. Looks dont matter a whole ton. Also side is so important. I think my side carries my whole face since my frontal profile is pretty mid
yeah but what 4 implies is that not always women date men more good-looking than them, confidence is key though
Yeah, muscles could be nearly as important as frame.
Eh, it's a gamble. Some people get severely recessed after tooth extractions.
Yeah. Overall cranofacial structure is the pillar of attraction.
Yeah, personality plays a far bigger role in relationships than beauty.
Do you have examples? I have a friend who deadass ascended and became chadlite after getting like 6-8 extractions. It could've been 8 extractions ngl
you just have to look good enough, i think im pretty decently looking and my general experience with women reaffirms that. i still slay less than my more NT friends who are also shorter plus have a worse physique. it's legit all in the confidence you just have to believe that you can pull and you will. if you're on here its automatically harder for you to pull since you're more likely to be less NT
whenever I see a dude with less than ideal clavicle width I automatically think hes a bitch. it definitely does matter
if the girl really likes you yeah it doesn't but It always adds more points
im saying all those things are commonly said by looksmaxxers but are not true
Guy on left looks homeless and would look way better with muscles. Compare the guy on the left to a jacked chad
take the one outlier chad and cope saying its ok to have narrow clavicles, like im talking about the average dude for which it does matter and it does add more appeal, plus jon would look insanely more masc with a better physique
right one looks more intimidating, hes right
If you have a mandibular protrusion, it will help. But it will make the average person look worse.
holy cope, face always mogs body to gh and back
Waterholy cope, face always mogs body to gh and back
his face and height is enough and his body isn't that bad
Face being more important than body doesn't mean body is completely cope, that's classic low iq black and white thinking. For example a muscular htn is significantly more attractive than a skinny htn, it's night and day.holy cope, face always mogs body to gh and back
his face and height is enough and his body isn't that bad
Yeah I’ve had tooth extractions and still have ideal forward growth
It's not. Men overrate other men hard. And they usually underrate women
Show me the science then. I swear all the time on .org it's just guys overrating the shit out of guys who look like they don't shower and then are confused that they are incel lol
you used him not me lol, also his body appeals to most women, if a more muscular body were more appealing he would build more muscle since it's his job to sell stuff
I didn't use him, the other guy sent Jon...
I'm on phone, not gonna link shit, but. Cmon.
I've seen this tons of times. What does it even mean. Like how do we know what the men even looked like. What if all the men were 40 year old balding subhumans
Yeah you're insanely dumb, I used jon there because the guy before me sent Jon.. Unless you have him on ignore
If you think right is male gaze then idek what to say. That's not even that muscular. Left is anorexic. I've seen plenty of ltn-mtn muscular guys do solid on dating apps. Them skinny would do way worse
Kinda hyperbolic assumptions you have.
It's not hyperbolic. I remember seeing somewhere that one of the studies about this (could have been the exact one you sent) literally had Ryan gosling as a top 1% male LOL. he's average
That doesn’t matter though. Even if they date men who are on the same level of attractiveness as them, they will still be drawn to men they perceive as “better”.
pointless to argue, agree to disagree?
lol ok
Which ones of those do you agree with. All of them are egregious