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am i recessed? 14f, class 2 braces + powerchains

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not sure if it does much for foward projection but i may be wrong
me too so i've just been trying to thumb pull but idk how effective it it with braces but i'd rather do it and see any results than not do it and get none if that makes sense
 
me too so i've just been trying to thumb pull but idk how effective it it with braces but i'd rather do it and see any results than not do it and get none if that makes sense
yeah makes sense, thumbpulling wont work but ig i cant stop u
 
you need headgear not palate expander
i thought that was for an underbite tho and i have an overbite
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me too so i've just been trying to thumb pull but idk how effective it it with braces but i'd rather do it and see any results than not do it and get none if that makes sense
Thumbpulling is cope, your maxilla seems flat but apart of that your mandible is not recessed
 
Seeing an orthodontist and stop coping with bullshit like bonesmashing and thumbpulling.
i do have one and i hate him so much 😭😭😭😭 my elastics are literally designed to pull my upper jaw back and my lower one forward but that seems like the opposite of what i need, so i stopped wearing them
 

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