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Serious Anorexia like everything is a series of bad choices

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Granted like everything you are genetically predisposed to certain choices but that doesn't remove the accountability of it. You decided to get into the online space, you decided to listen to certain things, you decided to ignore help. And now you're kinda fucked. This goes with everything, your whole life.
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sure I mean i guess that's kinda encouraging maybe. idk how backed that is
 
i do agree but it is a mental illness its like the same with people with depression some refuse help

sometimes people cant even deicde on what they listen too or what people say to them.
for example someone making fun of a person being fat, thats all they hear so thats what they start to only believe they start to hyperficate on it and then develop the mental illness, i dont think people are born with this tho so ur right. it is caused by "decisions" but i dont think its a choice always to consume that stuff and develop it
 
Its very easy to say all this as an outsider. Don't think that these people don't know the negative effects of their eating (or lack of) habits, because they are well aware. But when you're in that mindset nothing else matters in the moment. Youre not taking into account all these factors that people are telling you because you have your mind set on a singular goal, a number, a look. Its all consuming. You can't help someone that doesn't want help at the end of the day.
 
Its very easy to say all this as an outsider. Don't think that these people don't know the negative effects of their eating (or lack of) habits, because they are well aware. But when you're in that mindset nothing else matters in the moment. Youre not taking into account all these factors that people are telling you because you have your mind set on a singular goal, a number, a look. Its all consuming. You can't help someone that doesn't want help at the end of the day.
i do agree but it is a mental illness its like the same with people with depression some refuse help

sometimes people cant even deicde on what they listen too or what people say to them.
for example someone making fun of a person being fat, thats all they hear so thats what they start to only believe they start to hyperficate on it and then develop the mental illness, i dont think people are born with this tho so ur right. it is caused by "decisions" but i dont think its a choice always to consume that stuff and develop it
You guys aren't even talking about the same time spans I am, I'm talking about before they become retarded
 
Bro you're doomed from the start
This isn't true at all and is just a gay cope for people to take accountability off their shoulders. Everything you do with your cards in life is ultimately at the singular level your fault even in things you think aren't your fault.
 
You guys aren't even talking about the same time spans I am, I'm talking about before they become retarded
Nobody develops an eating disorder just because they enter certain online spaces, they seek out those spaces because they already feel this way and find comfort in them. More often than not, these feelings stem from their environment, whether it’s societal beauty standards, family dynamics, trauma, or personal experiences that foster insecurity. Genetics and mental health conditions like anxiety, depression, and OCD can also play a role. It’s not a simple choice of bad habits…it’s a complex response to internal and external pressures.
 
should anyone here be talking Abt mental illnesses. I mean you could abstract everything into a series of bad descisions that assertion means literally nothing
 
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Nobody develops an eating disorder just because they enter certain online spaces, they seek out those spaces because they already feel this way and find comfort in them. More often than not, these feelings stem from their environment, whether it’s societal beauty standards, family dynamics, trauma, or personal experiences that foster insecurity. Genetics and mental health conditions like anxiety, depression, and OCD can also play a role. It’s not a simple choice of bad habits…it’s a complex response to internal and external pressures.
You can't really talk whe. You reject even getting any help when you already know you have a problem
 
Granted like everything you are genetically predisposed to certain choices but that doesn't remove the accountability of it. You decided to get into the online space, you decided to listen to certain things, you decided to ignore help. And now you're kinda fucked. This goes with everything, your whole life.
I don't know if it's really a choice
Our actions often reflect the world around us, and how people interpret us
A low tier normie, framecel, truecel, is more likely to be involved in the Redpill self improvement spaces then a HTN, wide bidetloid chad.
You can apply this to anorexia as well, and while some may start out obese or overweight, it may spiral into something worse
sure I mean i guess that's kinda encouraging maybe. idk how backed that is
It's a depressive mindset, more positive encouragement would be to show people long term evidence of why anorexia is bad, why the numbers on the scale and the image in the mirror don't tell the whole story, and how you can be aesthetically appealing without sacrificing longevity and health.
for example someone making fun of a person being fat, thats all they hear so thats what they start to only believe they start to hyperficate on it and then develop the mental illness
Yes, this is how it starts. The importance of nutritional knowledge on a population and parents properly managing their children's nutrients and health is vital.
, i dont think people are born with this tho so ur right
It's absolutely a result of societal pressures.
You guys aren't even talking about the same time spans I am, I'm talking about before they become retarded
To an extent, it's easy to spiral and make it their personality and views on nutrition, not their fault their parent's didn't give them better genetics, better nutrition, and better health overall. It's a "decision", to continue onto it, and to go on edtwt, all these other websites but they are in fact there for a reason.
It's like this very looksmaxxing forum, maybe people here likely faced struggles with relationships, made fun of looks, and have had bad social relationships overall. It's often a very depressive eco chamber, making it hard for people to leave once they have accepted and adopted this worldview.
Its very easy to say all this as an outsider. Don't think that these people don't know the negative effects of their eating (or lack of) habits,
Exactly, it's a result of lack of education. Nutrition should be forced and taught upon the population, because then people start going for fad and out-of-whack diets to "heal" their health, leading to distrust in the medical and educational establishment.
because they are well aware. But when you're in that mindset nothing else matters in the moment. Youre not taking into account all these factors that people are telling you because you have your mind set on a singular goal, a number, a look. Its all consuming.
Sounds about right, fantastic words.

Not health wise just their mindset it's hard to change
This as well, great point. They begin to see food as an enemy, rather than a tool and a necessity. If more people cared about their health and put effort into it, they would not be in the situation in the first place however.
Most anorexia nervosa patients have these deficiencies:
Zinc: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Vitamin D: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Copper: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Selenium: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Zinc deficiency will lead to poor hair quality, slow growth, brittle nails, being sickly often.
Vit D deficiency leads to muscle and bone pain
Copper deficiency leads to thyroid issues (will severely impact looks), osteoporosis, and bone fractures.
Selenium deficiencies lead to thyroid issues and reproductive issues
It will effect your ability to conceive if you do ever decide to have a child
Anorexia is linked with depression
Elevated risk for anxiety
Lowered levels of estrogen in men and women, leading to fertility issues and not wanting to have sex in the first place, which is a natural psychological function
Increased risk of mortality

I ask for any anorexics, to review this information and carefully consider what is more important, for them and their future.
These nutritional deficiencies and starvation will make you more unattractive and sickly, as I have clearly shown. If you need to cut down on weight, or want to get an aesthetic body, deeply consider if it will actually benefit you.
For example, lets say you are at 17.5 bmi, and 17.5 % bodyfat. Will cutting weight actually be more aesthetic? Do other people think I am healthy?
Does my doctor think I am healthy? Am I meeting all my nutritional requirements?
The last two I mentioned are the most important. If you can obtain a healthy weight, bodyfat percentage, and meet all nutritionally requirements while looking your best, then I think you are good.
Often what drives people further is thinking getting leaner will look any better, which is where truth nuking forum users come in. Would you need more softmaxxing to be more attractive? Do you need to gain weight to be more attractive? All of us should be aware of such and actively advocate for each other. Let people know when their looksmaxxing plans won't benefit them, when they might need surgical intervention to achieve a better look, a higher rating, and a higher appeal.
Nobody develops an eating disorder just because they enter certain online spaces, they seek out those spaces because they already feel this way and find comfort in them. More often than not, these feelings stem from their environment, whether it’s societal beauty standards, family dynamics, trauma, or personal experiences that foster insecurity. Genetics and mental health conditions like anxiety, depression, and OCD can also play a role. It’s not a simple choice of bad habits…it’s a complex response to internal and external pressures.
This is where this forum specifically can be of support. If any of you ladies, or gentleman want advice or support on your looksmaxxing goals feel free to PM, or any other trusted, mentally stable users that will be of benefit and give you what you really need to hear while factoring in nutrition.
 
I don't know if it's really a choice
Our actions often reflect the world around us, and how people interpret us
A low tier normie, framecel, truecel, is more likely to be involved in the Redpill self improvement spaces then a HTN, wide bidetloid chad.
You can apply this to anorexia as well, and while some may start out obese or overweight, it may spiral into something worse

It's a depressive mindset, more positive encouragement would be to show people long term evidence of why anorexia is bad, why the numbers on the scale and the image in the mirror don't tell the whole story, and how you can be aesthetically appealing without sacrificing longevity and health.

Yes, this is how it starts. The importance of nutritional knowledge on a population and parents properly managing their children's nutrients and health is vital.

It's absolutely a result of societal pressures.

To an extent, it's easy to spiral and make it their personality and views on nutrition, not their fault their parent's didn't give them better genetics, better nutrition, and better health overall. It's a "decision", to continue onto it, and to go on edtwt, all these other websites but they are in fact there for a reason.
It's like this very looksmaxxing forum, maybe people here likely faced struggles with relationships, made fun of looks, and have had bad social relationships overall. It's often a very depressive eco chamber, making it hard for people to leave once they have accepted and adopted this worldview.

Exactly, it's a result of lack of education. Nutrition should be forced and taught upon the population, because then people start going for fad and out-of-whack diets to "heal" their health, leading to distrust in the medical and educational establishment.

Sounds about right, fantastic words.


This as well, great point. They begin to see food as an enemy, rather than a tool and a necessity. If more people cared about their health and put effort into it, they would not be in the situation in the first place however.
Most anorexia nervosa patients have these deficiencies:
Zinc: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Vitamin D: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Copper: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Selenium: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Zinc deficiency will lead to poor hair quality, slow growth, brittle nails, being sickly often.
Vit D deficiency leads to muscle and bone pain
Copper deficiency leads to thyroid issues (will severely impact looks), osteoporosis, and bone fractures.
Selenium deficiencies lead to thyroid issues and reproductive issues
It will effect your ability to conceive if you do ever decide to have a child
Anorexia is linked with depression
Elevated risk for anxiety
Lowered levels of estrogen in men and women, leading to fertility issues and not wanting to have sex in the first place, which is a natural psychological function
Increased risk of mortality

I ask for any anorexics, to review this information and carefully consider what is more important, for them and their future.
These nutritional deficiencies and starvation will make you more unattractive and sickly, as I have clearly shown. If you need to cut down on weight, or want to get an aesthetic body, deeply consider if it will actually benefit you.
For example, lets say you are at 17.5 bmi, and 17.5 % bodyfat. Will cutting weight actually be more aesthetic? Do other people think I am healthy?
Does my doctor think I am healthy? Am I meeting all my nutritional requirements?
The last two I mentioned are the most important. If you can obtain a healthy weight, bodyfat percentage, and meet all nutritionally requirements while looking your best, then I think you are good.
Often what drives people further is thinking getting leaner will look any better, which is where truth nuking forum users come in. Would you need more softmaxxing to be more attractive? Do you need to gain weight to be more attractive? All of us should be aware of such and actively advocate for each other. Let people know when their looksmaxxing plans won't benefit them, when they might need surgical intervention to achieve a better look, a higher rating, and a higher appeal.

This is where this forum specifically can be of support. If any of you ladies, or gentleman want advice or support on your looksmaxxing goals feel free to PM, or any other trusted, mentally stable users that will be of benefit and give you what you really need to hear while factoring in nutrition.
Jesus, mirin dedication man.
 
Ana isn't stopping her from getting help this is stupid
I don’t avoid help because I like suffering.
It’s like holding onto a sinking ship because it’s the only thing you know, even though you know it’s taking you down with it. Letting go feels like losing everything.
 
I don't know if it's really a choice
Our actions often reflect the world around us, and how people interpret us
A low tier normie, framecel, truecel, is more likely to be involved in the Redpill self improvement spaces then a HTN, wide bidetloid chad.
You can apply this to anorexia as well, and while some may start out obese or overweight, it may spiral into something worse

It's a depressive mindset, more positive encouragement would be to show people long term evidence of why anorexia is bad, why the numbers on the scale and the image in the mirror don't tell the whole story, and how you can be aesthetically appealing without sacrificing longevity and health.

Yes, this is how it starts. The importance of nutritional knowledge on a population and parents properly managing their children's nutrients and health is vital.

It's absolutely a result of societal pressures.

To an extent, it's easy to spiral and make it their personality and views on nutrition, not their fault their parent's didn't give them better genetics, better nutrition, and better health overall. It's a "decision", to continue onto it, and to go on edtwt, all these other websites but they are in fact there for a reason.
It's like this very looksmaxxing forum, maybe people here likely faced struggles with relationships, made fun of looks, and have had bad social relationships overall. It's often a very depressive eco chamber, making it hard for people to leave once they have accepted and adopted this worldview.

Exactly, it's a result of lack of education. Nutrition should be forced and taught upon the population, because then people start going for fad and out-of-whack diets to "heal" their health, leading to distrust in the medical and educational establishment.

Sounds about right, fantastic words.


This as well, great point. They begin to see food as an enemy, rather than a tool and a necessity. If more people cared about their health and put effort into it, they would not be in the situation in the first place however.
Most anorexia nervosa patients have these deficiencies:
Zinc: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Vitamin D: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Copper: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Selenium: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6520973/
Zinc deficiency will lead to poor hair quality, slow growth, brittle nails, being sickly often.
Vit D deficiency leads to muscle and bone pain
Copper deficiency leads to thyroid issues (will severely impact looks), osteoporosis, and bone fractures.
Selenium deficiencies lead to thyroid issues and reproductive issues
It will effect your ability to conceive if you do ever decide to have a child
Anorexia is linked with depression
Elevated risk for anxiety
Lowered levels of estrogen in men and women, leading to fertility issues and not wanting to have sex in the first place, which is a natural psychological function
Increased risk of mortality

I ask for any anorexics, to review this information and carefully consider what is more important, for them and their future.
These nutritional deficiencies and starvation will make you more unattractive and sickly, as I have clearly shown. If you need to cut down on weight, or want to get an aesthetic body, deeply consider if it will actually benefit you.
For example, lets say you are at 17.5 bmi, and 17.5 % bodyfat. Will cutting weight actually be more aesthetic? Do other people think I am healthy?
Does my doctor think I am healthy? Am I meeting all my nutritional requirements?
The last two I mentioned are the most important. If you can obtain a healthy weight, bodyfat percentage, and meet all nutritionally requirements while looking your best, then I think you are good.
Often what drives people further is thinking getting leaner will look any better, which is where truth nuking forum users come in. Would you need more softmaxxing to be more attractive? Do you need to gain weight to be more attractive? All of us should be aware of such and actively advocate for each other. Let people know when their looksmaxxing plans won't benefit them, when they might need surgical intervention to achieve a better look, a higher rating, and a higher appeal.

This is where this forum specifically can be of support. If any of you ladies, or gentleman want advice or support on your looksmaxxing goals feel free to PM, or any other trusted, mentally stable users that will be of benefit and give you what you really need to hear while factoring in nutrition.
I think everyone thinks it's all your fault but I didn't say that I said that alot is your fault at the end of the day, while yes some complications when it comes to when you're born can effect your chances of developing it's not the while picture.
 
I think everyone thinks it's all your fault but I didn't say that I said that alot is your fault at the end of the day, while yes some complications when it comes to when you're born can effect your chances of developing it's not the while picture.
My main point is:
TLDR: guide people the proper way using knowledge of aesthetics, nutrition, and health
Blaming them for this issue won't get them far, and I get if that's not what your doing but it may come off to them as such
 
Granted like everything you are genetically predisposed to certain choices but that doesn't remove the accountability of it. You decided to get into the online space, you decided to listen to certain things, you decided to ignore help. And now you're kinda fucked. This goes with everything, your whole life.
@ripskeem
@Whitepill
@huntergirl
You're kind of based.
 
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