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The topic of looksmaxing and the black pill started as a tool. It was built so guys could be honest about how looks work in life and then actually improve the parts they could change. It was made for people on the same journey to help each other instead of tearing each other down. At the start you could ask a question and get straight advice back. Guys posted real progress and supported each other. That was the point. But this new wave has completely shifted it. Now the majority of these spaces are rude, judgmental, and full of people acting like they are better than everyone else even though they are on the exact same journey. The original reason for existing got lost in the negativity and superiority.
A lot of guys who have been around for years say the same thing happened. In the beginning it felt useful. The community was there to improve yourself and give tips to others who were trying too. Now it feels different. The second someone posts a small step or asks for basic advice they get hit with judgment or “it’s over” comments. People act superior the moment they improve a little. It is like the helpful part got pushed aside by toxicity. That shift did not help anyone. It turned a tool for getting better into something that makes people feel worse for trying.
Over 65% of guys who attempt to improve themselves quit - most common stat that I found
The original black pill was never about sitting around and putting others down. It was about facing reality so you could do something about it and help the next guy do the same. The shifted version turned into a place where people act like they are above you the second you try. New guys get shut down for asking normal questions and for being grey. Progress gets mocked instead of rewarded. Everyone is on the same journey of trying to improve, yet the tone became one of judgment instead of help. That change hurts the whole community.
It is never over. Let's get into it.
Some of the most improved and confident guys you see online got there by either using the hateful comments as constructive criticism or by ignoring them fully. They wouldn't have gotten to where they are now if they had listened to all the toxicity. The shift to rudeness and judgment makes it feel like certain starting points are already over. But the original point shows that methods still exist from anywhere.
But I am overweight
The original point is that body composition can be changed. Overweight guys can use things like Reta or other glp medicines to help lose fat while they train and eat right. These are real tools that work alongside consistent effort. Steady effort plus real options changes the body and confidence when you keep going instead of quitting early.
But I am skinny or a hardgainer
The original point shows that eating in a surplus and hypertrophy training can add extreme muscle even for guys who start skinny. Skinny hardgainers can use testosterone and anabolic steroids under proper guidance (DYOR or help from a doctor) to help push past genetic limits. Consistent calories, lifting, and real compounds work over time. Guys who follow the basics plus these methods end up filling out and looking different. The original point keeps the process moving.
But I have bad acne or skin
The original point is that daily skincare habits and diet can improve skin quality for most guys. People with bad acne can use Accutane to clear severe cases when basic routines are not enough. When they go back to the helpful approach and use real treatments like Accutane when needed, their skin improves dramatically and they feel better about their face. The original point keeps it open for anyone willing to do the work.
But I am short
The original point is that muscle, posture, style, face, and confidence can make height matter far less than most guys think. Short guys can use HGH before growth plates close if they are still in the window. Even if height stays the same, real examples like Messi show that you can still max out other areas and become extremely successful. If you cannot max out one metric, max out another. Guys who focus on what they can actually change carry themselves with more presence.
But I have hair that is receding or a bad hairline
The original point is that a good haircut and style that works with what you have plus overall improvements in body and grooming can change how you look. Guys with hair problems can use topical or oral treatments like finasteride or minoxidil to slow or reverse loss.
But I am shy or have bad social skills
The original point is that social skills improve with real practice in daily life. Guys who are shy or have bad social skills can use exposure therapy to practice talking to people in real situations. They can also use drugs like Pregab or Baclofen to reduce anxiety and make practice easier. When they actually practice with exposure therapy or these real options they build real connections over time. They make friends and date more easily when they treat it as a skill that gets better with effort.
But I started late in my mid twenties or older
The original point is that consistent effort still brings big changes no matter when you begin. When guys go back to the helpful approach and start training, grooming, and building habits anyway they see real progress in their body skin and confidence over time. The original point shows that starting whenever you decide still leads to improvement.
But I have an average or below average face
Guys with average or below average faces can use surgeries to fix specific problems they have. For example, Timothy Haireth went under 10 surgeries at once because he knew he had problems to fix. Even after he took this huge risk, people are praying he ends up botched. Goodluck to him, he already looks way better even with all the swelling.
It is never over.
Keep your head up and remember why you started this journey.
A lot of guys who have been around for years say the same thing happened. In the beginning it felt useful. The community was there to improve yourself and give tips to others who were trying too. Now it feels different. The second someone posts a small step or asks for basic advice they get hit with judgment or “it’s over” comments. People act superior the moment they improve a little. It is like the helpful part got pushed aside by toxicity. That shift did not help anyone. It turned a tool for getting better into something that makes people feel worse for trying.
Over 65% of guys who attempt to improve themselves quit - most common stat that I found
The original black pill was never about sitting around and putting others down. It was about facing reality so you could do something about it and help the next guy do the same. The shifted version turned into a place where people act like they are above you the second you try. New guys get shut down for asking normal questions and for being grey. Progress gets mocked instead of rewarded. Everyone is on the same journey of trying to improve, yet the tone became one of judgment instead of help. That change hurts the whole community.
It is never over. Let's get into it.
Some of the most improved and confident guys you see online got there by either using the hateful comments as constructive criticism or by ignoring them fully. They wouldn't have gotten to where they are now if they had listened to all the toxicity. The shift to rudeness and judgment makes it feel like certain starting points are already over. But the original point shows that methods still exist from anywhere.
But I am overweight
The original point is that body composition can be changed. Overweight guys can use things like Reta or other glp medicines to help lose fat while they train and eat right. These are real tools that work alongside consistent effort. Steady effort plus real options changes the body and confidence when you keep going instead of quitting early.
But I am skinny or a hardgainer
The original point shows that eating in a surplus and hypertrophy training can add extreme muscle even for guys who start skinny. Skinny hardgainers can use testosterone and anabolic steroids under proper guidance (DYOR or help from a doctor) to help push past genetic limits. Consistent calories, lifting, and real compounds work over time. Guys who follow the basics plus these methods end up filling out and looking different. The original point keeps the process moving.
But I have bad acne or skin
The original point is that daily skincare habits and diet can improve skin quality for most guys. People with bad acne can use Accutane to clear severe cases when basic routines are not enough. When they go back to the helpful approach and use real treatments like Accutane when needed, their skin improves dramatically and they feel better about their face. The original point keeps it open for anyone willing to do the work.
But I am short
The original point is that muscle, posture, style, face, and confidence can make height matter far less than most guys think. Short guys can use HGH before growth plates close if they are still in the window. Even if height stays the same, real examples like Messi show that you can still max out other areas and become extremely successful. If you cannot max out one metric, max out another. Guys who focus on what they can actually change carry themselves with more presence.
But I have hair that is receding or a bad hairline
The original point is that a good haircut and style that works with what you have plus overall improvements in body and grooming can change how you look. Guys with hair problems can use topical or oral treatments like finasteride or minoxidil to slow or reverse loss.
But I am shy or have bad social skills
The original point is that social skills improve with real practice in daily life. Guys who are shy or have bad social skills can use exposure therapy to practice talking to people in real situations. They can also use drugs like Pregab or Baclofen to reduce anxiety and make practice easier. When they actually practice with exposure therapy or these real options they build real connections over time. They make friends and date more easily when they treat it as a skill that gets better with effort.
But I started late in my mid twenties or older
The original point is that consistent effort still brings big changes no matter when you begin. When guys go back to the helpful approach and start training, grooming, and building habits anyway they see real progress in their body skin and confidence over time. The original point shows that starting whenever you decide still leads to improvement.
But I have an average or below average face
Guys with average or below average faces can use surgeries to fix specific problems they have. For example, Timothy Haireth went under 10 surgeries at once because he knew he had problems to fix. Even after he took this huge risk, people are praying he ends up botched. Goodluck to him, he already looks way better even with all the swelling.
It is never over.
Keep your head up and remember why you started this journey.
