Anyone else going insane?

[cake]

Nah Ugly pajeets and Muhammad's in the US at her looks level aren't worried about women at all. They are busy making a bank
From what ive seen. The people who are actually wealthy don't even waste a second on foids. For them foids are disposable objects. They don't give a fuck about women. They are busy making a bank and cope with escorts and other things.

It's only the desperate n*****s who make barely enough bread that simp and spend their salaries on women. Just look at the twitch subhumans that donate the most money all lolcows that spend their entire pay checks on random whores.

They will just get their arranged marriage at 30 to whoever their parents tell them to. She should just go along with that tbh and try and get her parents help

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

Just mad she can’t get chad

Nature don't created men & women equal lmao

 

[Cage]

It's a fact.

@maryd is this guy bothering you?
get behind me ill protect you

 

[lemonpie]

Be careful of body dysmorphia, and the "never be satisfied" syndrome. I would suggest therapy before surgeries, but you do want you want


Since when i've talked about OF ? i've said ONS, it means one-night-stand, which means sleeping with someone and never talk to that person ever again.


The majority of hook-up culture is done by women. They're the gatekeepers of sex because they choose who's gonna fuck her, men haven't that privilège. Hook-up culture is sleeping with the people you find attractive, not fucking any male who breathes oxygen


Never said that. I've said that unattractive men would wish to have that privilege. Never said women should give sex to them. I've said only the top % of men can have this privilege, that's it.

Most majority of women who lives in big western cities have large bodycount and talk about hooking-up like if it was something normal and healthy (it's not). They sleep with strangers just like they got their starbucks.

But you're right men&women should stop to sleep together, but who is gonna stop first ? Women tend to regret because it's either she think he will commit or she wasn't satisfied that much


It's still some kind of "grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" mindset. Some people call that hypergamy or monkey-branching. It's still having options if you have already a feet outside of the relationship


I think you have an outdated idea of relationships tbh. I've always (except one) slept with a girl only if i've seen her as a potential gf (like right now with that girl i've seen since last month). In this day and age, you can't really refuse a girl if she want to sleep with you, if you refuse she will thinks you're not into her (happened to me sigh)
Hook-up culture is just fucking and move on, you've mistaken my phrase. I've said in hopes to a relationship, 1 man& 1 woman (like, the couple, not in general with multiple people of the opposite gender) should sleep together often to increase pair bonding (because vulnerable moments, cuddling and orgasms)
People are not pair bonding having ONS with strangers, you've mistaken it with 1 man and 1 woman seeing exclusively each other and sleep exclusively with each other

You said people need to be friends and then loving without sleeping together, and then marriage. It probably works for you but tbf, as a man, it's the recipe for disaster

It's my opinion tho

how do you not see how silly that is? Who are the women sleeping with? themselves? Again, a fallacy. Women are not the only ones at blame.

hook-up culture cannot be "done" by one sex alone unless its homosexual. I dont see how anyone could think like that. I already explained this to you quite well, hook-up culture cannot be fixed by women not gate keeping sex. Honestly im starting to wonder if you are aware of the definitions of either hook-up or hook-up culture. The goal is to get rid of hook-ups, not make sure everyone is allowed to get laid. You are literally reinforcing hook-up culture, trying to make it inclusive of men whom women find unattractive. That is not our goal here. Men aswell as women both play a role in a hook-up as this is how a hook-up works. 1 man and 1 woman.

When will you stop blaming hook-up culture on women gate-keeping sex and realise that it does not help your case at all? Women gate-keeping sex would a best slow down hook-up culture and at neutral simply deprive certain men of sex. It does in no way or form make hook-up culture stronger. Lets try to focus now, alright.
1. people are having too much sex
2. woman say nono i dont wanna sex you because youre ugly
3. one less sex occurrence
in no universe would the outcome of a no be more sex occurrences.

Neither did i state that you said that. But as you told me that the reason for hook-up culture being bad is due to women saying no to sex or in your words "gate keeping", retracing the faults to make it right would result in women accepting sex proposals from men they dont find attractive. My suggestion of forcing women to have sex with unattractive men is but a hypothetical statement to explain my point. You blame women for not wanting sex with certain people. If hypothetically, women did want sex with these people, it would not solve the problem.

again, not what i was saying. My statement hasnt to do with that either. I am getting tired of this. I feel like ive explained my point pretty well twice now. Regardless if either of your statements about grass being greener, or people jumping from 1 relationship to another is true, its completely irrelevant and cannot replace what i was trying to say. Thats like replacing 2+2=4 with 1+1=2 in a math equation and expecting the same results just because 1+1 indeed equals 2.

Funny how you state my point of view is outdated when i literally referenced my point of view from hundreds of years back. I explicitly told you that i would like it to be like it was hundreds of years back. This is like debating a stereotypical blonde. You just now mansplain my own point to me that i literally defined the same a few hours ago.

You complain about dating culture not being inclusive instead of disapproving it all together. The fault of hook-up culture is hat it exists in the first place. As i stated a while back, removing it all together to default back to dating culture is not enough for me. Dating culture also needs some fixing.

your last statement, again, violates the laws of simple logic. In a heterosexual relationship there is a man and there is a woman. It is impossible for it to work for only one of the sexes. For each successful relationship from the perspective of the female, there will also be a success from the perspective of her partner, a male.
You seem hung up on the fact that i mentioned the word "friend". My meaning is simply that i think a perfect dating culture would have these criteria...

1. Man and woman should not show romantic interest before knowing full well that they love each other.
2. Man and woman can not know if they love each other without spending time together
3. People spending time getting to know each other usually result in friendship and if it proves to be love, later in romance
4. Men and woman should not have sex unless they love each other
How can you say you love someone yet not be able to commit a ring and the rest of your life to them, therefor marriage is a good way of knowing whether you truly love them and in turn can be intimate.

It feels to me as if you are simply stuck on blaming everything on the other sex that you do not even think of the questions you answer. Your arguments are baseless and whimsy. There are a few things in this world that are purely the fault of he female sex, there are also a few things that are purely the fault of the male sex. But assigning faults to one sex alone reacquired some serious thinking, not just your personal experience especially in questions such as these as you are one of the participants in the "equation" (male), for it can activate confirmation bias and produce false positives.

 

[lemonpie]

Nature don't created men & women equal lmao

God did, yes. Gender roles do exist but they do not define worth.

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

how do you not see how silly that is? Who are the women sleeping with? themselves? Again, a fallacy. Women are not the only ones at blame.

hook-up culture cannot be "done" by one sex alone unless its homosexual. I dont see how anyone could think like that. I already explained this to you quite well, hook-up culture cannot be fixed by women not gate keeping sex. Honestly im starting to wonder if you are aware of the definitions of either hook-up or hook-up culture. The goal is to get rid of hook-ups, not make sure everyone is allowed to get laid. You are literally reinforcing hook-up culture, trying to make it inclusive of men whom women find unattractive. That is not our goal here. Men aswell as women both play a role in a hook-up as this is how a hook-up works. 1 man and 1 woman.

When will you stop blaming hook-up culture on women gate-keeping sex and realise that it does not help your case at all? Women gate-keeping sex would a best slow down hook-up culture and at neutral simply deprive certain men of sex. It does in no way or form make hook-up culture stronger. Lets try to focus now, alright.
1. people are having too much sex
2. woman say nono i dont wanna sex you because youre ugly
3. one less sex occurrence
in no universe would the outcome of a no be more sex occurrences.

Neither did i state that you said that. But as you told me that the reason for hook-up culture being bad is due to women saying no to sex or in your words "gate keeping", retracing the faults to make it right would result in women accepting sex proposals from men they dont find attractive. My suggestion of forcing women to have sex with unattractive men is but a hypothetical statement to explain my point. You blame women for not wanting sex with certain people. If hypothetically, women did want sex with these people, it would not solve the problem.

again, not what i was saying. My statement hasnt to do with that either. I am getting tired of this. I feel like ive explained my point pretty well twice now. Regardless if either of your statements about grass being greener, or people jumping from 1 relationship to another is true, its completely irrelevant and cannot replace what i was trying to say. Thats like replacing 2+2=4 with 1+1=2 in a math equation and expecting the same results just because 1+1 indeed equals 2.

Funny how you state my point of view is outdated when i literally referenced my point of view from hundreds of years back. I explicitly told you that i would like it to be like it was hundreds of years back. This is like debating a stereotypical blonde. You just now mansplain my own point to me that i literally defined the same a few hours ago.

You complain about dating culture not being inclusive instead of disapproving it all together. The fault of hook-up culture is hat it exists in the first place. As i stated a while back, removing it all together to default back to dating culture is not enough for me. Dating culture also needs some fixing.

your last statement, again, violates the laws of simple logic. In a heterosexual relationship there is a man and there is a woman. It is impossible for it to work for only one of the sexes. For each successful relationship from the perspective of the female, there will also be a success from the perspective of her partner, a male.
You seem hung up on the fact that i mentioned the word "friend". My meaning is simply that i think a perfect dating culture would have these criteria...

1. Man and woman should not show romantic interest before knowing full well that they love each other.
2. Man and woman can not know if they love each other without spending time together
3. People spending time getting to know each other usually result in friendship and if it proves to be love, later in romance
4. Men and woman should not have sex unless they love each other
How can you say you love someone yet not be able to commit a ring and the rest of your life to them, therefor marriage is a good way of knowing whether you truly love them and in turn can be intimate.

It feels to me as if you are simply stuck on blaming everything on the other sex that you do not even think of the questions you answer. Your arguments are baseless and whimsy. There are a few things in this world that are purely the fault of he female sex, there are also a few things that are purely the fault of the male sex. But assigning faults to one sex alone reacquired some serious thinking, not just your personal experience especially in questions such as these as you are one of the participants in the "equation" (male), for it can activate confirmation bias and produce false positives.

I understood your pov but you have a different pov, a more traditional one, than what happens now in the modern dating. Don't feel like i blame all the women, i just explained that since birth control creation and the sexual liberation in the 80s, most women tend to sleep earlier in the potential relationship, or sleeping with strangers without consquences (pregnancy) and without feelings attached.
I don't talk about men because we all know, obviously, they're way way more interested in sex without feelings than girls in general, right ?
That's why i totally assume to say that women are gatekeepers of sex. If men stop sex women don't care, if women stop sex men tend to do more efforts to get sex (commitment for example)
I've said women because they have the higher bodycount, but it is from failed relationships, being played, or is it just meaningless hook-ups or wilder things to spice up their life ? we will never know

 

[lemonpie]

I understood your pov but you have a different pov, a more traditional one, than what happens now in the modern dating. Don't feel like i blame all the women, i just explained that since birth control creation and the sexual liberation in the 80s, most women tend to sleep earlier in the potential relationship, or sleeping with strangers without consquences (pregnancy) and without feelings attached.
I don't talk about men because we all know, obviously, they're way way more interested in sex without feelings than girls in general, right ?
That's why i totally assume to say that women are gatekeepers of sex. If men stop sex women don't care, if women stop sex men tend to do more efforts to get sex (commitment for example)
I've said women because they have the higher bodycount, but it is from failed relationships, being played, or is it just meaningless hook-ups or wilder things to spice up their life ? we will never know

from my understanding, there seems to have been a lapse in english. What country are you from?

I agree with you concerting the sexual liberation. But i would place more blame in recent developments on the liberal side than focusing on the 80s. Feminism was great in the 19th-20th century. Women were being mistreated and "liberated". It is sad to see the women of past centuries work get spit on by modern day liberals who claim to be in line with their works. They insult the women who had to stand up and fight for their rights with their sexist views towards men, aswell as allowing transexual "women" into the equation. And as you referenced "sexual liberation". I see alot of women these days demand the ability to act as whores without judgement, and calling it sexism when you speak against it. Women protesting to be allowed to wear pants instead of skirts has deformed into women protesting to be allowed to dress immodestly. The feminist from the old days would think it absurd and offensive.

Women can not have a higher body-count than men as for every +1 in a females body count is a +1 in a mans. How the bodies of a woman is distributed on the scale of looks is irrelevant.

I am a traditionalist and in my opinion the term "body-count" is insane. Its normal by todays standards to say "my body count is only 2" and be seen as modest. Personally i think that the only body-count that should be seen as modest is 0-1.
As for the excuses you stated for high body counts, they wouldnt be there had people only slept with people they love. Of cource you can get played by someone you love, but the chances of this happening are significantly lower if the hypothetical player in question proves their love and faithfulness to you buy marriage.

This also helps another important issue. Abortion. Trailing back to my earlier statements about modern day liberals dishonouring the strong women who fought for equality in the 19th-20th century, they would not fight for the allowance to murder potential life. If you are not ready to have a child, do not have sex or suffer the consequences.

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

Women can not have a higher body-count than men as for every +1 in a females body count is a +1 in a mans. How the bodies of a woman is distributed on the scale of looks is irrelevant.

As i said earlier, a few % of men sleep with most women, so logically they have the higher bodycounts, women are 2nd. I've read recently that more than half of male population are virgins, and more than half never talk irl with women

What country are you from?

french

from my understanding, there seems to have been a lapse in english. What country are you from?

I agree with you concerting the sexual liberation. But i would place more blame in recent developments on the liberal side than focusing on the 80s. Feminism was great in the 19th-20th century. Women were being mistreated and "liberated". It is sad to see the women of past centuries work get spit on by modern day liberals who claim to be in line with their works. They insult the women who had to stand up and fight for their rights with their sexist views towards men, aswell as allowing transexual "women" into the equation. And as you referenced "sexual liberation". I see alot of women these days demand the ability to act as whores without judgement, and calling it sexism when you speak against it. Women protesting to be allowed to wear pants instead of skirts has deformed into women protesting to be allowed to dress immodestly. The feminist from the old days would think it absurd and offensive.

Women can not have a higher body-count than men as for every +1 in a females body count is a +1 in a mans. How the bodies of a woman is distributed on the scale of looks is irrelevant.

I am a traditionalist and in my opinion the term "body-count" is insane. Its normal by todays standards to say "my body count is only 2" and be seen as modest. Personally i think that the only body-count that should be seen as modest is 0-1.
As for the excuses you stated for high body counts, they wouldnt be there had people only slept with people they love. Of cource you can get played by someone you love, but the chances of this happening are significantly lower if the hypothetical player in question proves their love and faithfulness to you buy marriage.

This also helps another important issue. Abortion. Trailing back to my earlier statements about modern day liberals dishonouring the strong women who fought for equality in the 19th-20th century, they would not fight for the allowance to murder potential life. If you are not ready to have a child, do not have sex or suffer the consequences.

you have a based view on feminism. It will be far better for women if they all think like you, unfortunately they gonna pay the consquences of their shitty choices later in life, especially abortion who is used as birth control alternative in the u.s. and they don't talk about the side effects of it...

 

[lemonpie]

As i said earlier, a few % of men sleep with most women, so logically they have the higher bodycounts, women are 2nd. I've read recently that more than half of male population are virgins, and more than half never talk irl with women


french


you have a based view on feminism. It will be far better for women if they all think like you, unfortunately they gonna pay the consquences of their shitty choices later in life, especially abortion who is used as birth control alternative in the u.s. and they don't talk about the side effects of it...

ah you mean in general. I agree, but i still think that these sub-groups of problems can no have only one gender to blame. Similar to this problem solvency: Women should dress more modestly, and men should think more modestly to fix the problem of hypertextualization. Even though, as you say, men have a higher body count on average, the issue of body-counts being too high should be solved by both parties. We cannot properly determine which of the two sexes has the most blame, but what we can conclude is that both must play a part. Much like the earlier example with hypertextualization, men and women must meet in the middle to reduce the average body-count across both sexes.

Thats cool my dad is french by nationality

Totally agree with you, however; Not to judge you or anything for i do not know much about you. But you stated earlier something among the lines of "the girl im currently seeing". Kind of sounds like youre part of the problem so my question is, how can you share my opinion on thinking people should be ready for children before they have sex, whilst "currently" seeing a girl, without being a hypocrite. Does a child not need a father and a mother with a stable relationship in contrast to being people they are "currently" seeing to each other. Are you ready for a child?

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

Kind of sounds like youre part of the problem so my question is, how can you share my opinion on thinking people should be ready for children before they have sex, whilst "currently" seeing a girl, without being a hypocrite. Does a child not need a father and a mother with a stable relationship in contrast to being people they are "currently" seeing to each other. Are you ready for a child?

I mean she initiated sex first, and my experience told me that women tend to take it personally if you refusing their advances. And i've always slept with the girl i wanted so... big ass hypocrite i assume, but i've always refused ONS. I'm seeing this girl and we discussed to be an exclusive LTR. she use birth control and i use condom so i don't think a child will happens soon enough but if a child appears, we both had our apartments and i've planned to build my house on my great grand-father land in the next 2 to 3 years, while pursuing nursing school. But yes if she's pregnant (if he's biologically mine ofc) i raise the baby and i marry the mother