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spreading love said:
Ok if god cured and illness why do we thank him if he gave us it in the first place
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in short he tests out patience. god will not make life easy for you; he gives challenges to see what your reactions towards those challenges will be. you must stay patient and do not cry over whatever challenges god gives
 
AymanBittar said:
nah i still dont get what foids means entirely. idk if its js a fancy term for women or an insult
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Ok in your opinion what societal unactivated thing in a woman do you you find a attractive
 
AymanBittar said:
in short he tests out patience. god will not make life easy for you; he gives challenges to see what your reactions towards those challenges will be. you must stay patient and do not cry over whatever challenges god gives
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If God is all-knowing, He already knows exactly how I will react and how much patience I have before the test even begins. Inflicting actual disease just to observe a reaction He already predicted feels less like a 'test' and more like unnecessary cruelty. We shouldn't be told 'not to cry' over suffering that was intentionally given to us. If a human father broke his child's arm just to see if they’d stay patient, we wouldn’t call that a teacher we’d call it abuse."
 
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spreading love said:
If God is all-knowing, He already knows exactly how I will react and how much patience I have before the test even begins. Inflicting actual disease just to observe a reaction He already predicted feels less like a 'test' and more like unnecessary cruelty. We shouldn't be told 'not to cry' over suffering that was intentionally given to us. If a human father broke his child's arm just to see if they’d stay patient, we wouldn’t call that a teacher we’d call it abuse."
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im gna state something b4 resuming this arguement: im a muslim not a christian so i dont believe in the holy trinity and that jesus DIES on the cross and all that stuff. what i do believe in however is god now ill resume
 
spreading love said:
If God is all-knowing, He already knows exactly how I will react and how much patience I have before the test even begins. Inflicting actual disease just to observe a reaction He already predicted feels less like a 'test' and more like unnecessary cruelty. We shouldn't be told 'not to cry' over suffering that was intentionally given to us. If a human father broke his child's arm just to see if they’d stay patient, we wouldn’t call that a teacher we’d call it abuse."
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i get what you’re saying, but in islam a “test” isn’t for god to find something out. it’s for the human to actually live out their choices, because knowledge alone doesn’t equal accountability; knowing an outcome doesn’t force it. suffering also isn’t framed as god inflicting pain just to observe reactions, and islam never says you’re not allowed to cry. even our prophet himself cried and showed grief. patience means not losing moral grounding, not being emotionless. the father analogy falls apart because humans lack perfect wisdom, justice, and the ability to fully compensate for harm, whereas islamic belief includes ultimate justice and restitution in the afterlife, meaning no suffering is meaningless or left unpaid.
 
AymanBittar said:
i get what you’re saying, but in islam a “test” isn’t for god to find something out. it’s for the human to actually live out their choices, because knowledge alone doesn’t equal accountability; knowing an outcome doesn’t force it. suffering also isn’t framed as god inflicting pain just to observe reactions, and islam never says you’re not allowed to cry. even our prophet himself cried and showed grief. patience means not losing moral grounding, not being emotionless. the father analogy falls apart because humans lack perfect wisdom, justice, and the ability to fully compensate for harm, whereas islamic belief includes ultimate justice and restitution in the afterlife, meaning no suffering is meaningless or left unpaid.
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If a test exists only for my own accountability, it implies I must suffer simply to prove a point God already knows. Compensating for harm in the afterlife doesn't change the fact that the harm was deliberately given. A perfectly just and wise being shouldn't require agony to validate a choice.
 
spreading love said:
If a test exists only for my own accountability, it implies I must suffer simply to prove a point God already knows. Compensating for harm in the afterlife doesn't change the fact that the harm was deliberately given. A perfectly just and wise being shouldn't require agony to validate a choice.
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the point is that the test isn’t about proving anything to god, it’s about making choices real rather than hypothetical. knowing what someone would choose isn’t the same as that choice actually existing in the world, and accountability only makes sense once actions are lived. islam also doesn’t claim all suffering is directly imposed just to cause pain; much of it comes from free will and real consequences in a world that isn’t padded or fake. if there were no suffering at all, traits like patience, injustice, mercy, or sacrifice wouldn’t even exist. calling it unjust assumes justice must be completed only in this life, which is an atheist assumption, not a flaw inside the islamic framework.
 
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