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this is coming from a certified goth raised goth since birth whos only every had alt friends
we dont want the "cool alt chad" or the "nonchalant cool guy"
every alt woman ive ever met only likes twinks or nerds
incels and bpers alike assuming these women are completely out of reach and changing themselves are only turning themselves in the wrong direction
half the guys who change for a goth girl only really need to be themselves
and it shows when they try to hard
i myself have ignored many men when they try to hard to not be themselves
its simply the blind leading the blind
we dont want the "cool alt chad" or the "nonchalant cool guy"
every alt woman ive ever met only likes twinks or nerds
incels and bpers alike assuming these women are completely out of reach and changing themselves are only turning themselves in the wrong direction
half the guys who change for a goth girl only really need to be themselves
and it shows when they try to hard
i myself have ignored many men when they try to hard to not be themselves
its simply the blind leading the blind
) or really like skinny losers / quiet boys