by definition I'm an incel.

[AJis18]

im a virgin I rarely get approached and I just give off a weird vibe and im curry.

 

[AJis18]

idrc anymore but how can I not care on some level yk

 

[AJis18]

maybe it could be a low trust face tbh

 

[Goth]

 

[AJis18]

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photo is frauded highlyy in my pov lighting and longer rhiar

 

[shredded4summer]

im a virgin I rarely get approached and I just give off a weird vibe and im curry.

100 girls per hour
Every day 10 hours
7000 girls per week
700,000 per 2 years

“You’re cute can I have your number”

Talk to them then take them on a date then invite to smash

 

[Randomized Shame]

I rarely get approached

Waiting to get approached is probably what's killing your chances of getting laid and/or entering a relationship. Men rarely get approached as is, and women rarely do the approaching.

 

[shredded4summer]

Yeah I’m chad and only get approach 1-2 times per day usally unless I’m wearing my lucky socks (

 

[AJis18]

I eed to build up the cofidence to approach people tbh

 

[Randomized Shame]

I eed to build up the cofidence to approach people tbh

Being the funny guy instead of the hot handsome guy in the room might help build confidence. Despite what a lot people will tell you, women do tend to like men with a personality.

 

[AJis18]

Being the funny guy instead of the hot handsome guy in the room might help build confidence. Despite what a lot people will tell you, women do tend to like men with a personality.

yeah I can see that

 

[AJis18]

ive been blackpilled and they telling me you have to be a certain look slevel to pull

 

[Randomized Shame]

ive been blackpilled and they telling me you have to be a certain look slevel to pull

It depends what your goals are. If you're wanting to sleep around, then yeah looking a certain way will help. If you're looking for a sincere relationship, then looks only helps you get more first dates than anything long term.

 

[AJis18]

It depends what your goals are. If you're wanting to sleep around, then yeah looking a certain way will help. If you're looking for a sincere relationship, then looks only helps you get more first dates than anything long term.

I was looking for nothing seurios tbh

 

[LogicTism1]

So are half the people in this forum bro. Idk where ur from but the easiest way to get laid is to just get hammered and go to a club/bar and start talking to women. if you get lucky a girl will approach you (girls are much more likely to approach when they’re drunk and bored).

If your not of age or there’s not rly a party scene near u then u just gotta make friends with men that can pull. That’s how I started talking to girls when I was younger, I just had a friend with maxed out confidence go and approach girls and then I would chime in.

Lastly, and I mean this should be the last option, continue refining your looks and you’ll get approached. For some reason I get approached a lot and it’s definitely because of the new amount of effort I have started to put into my looks. However, the type of girl that will approach a guy in the club is probably not the type of girl that you’ll want to date js sayin.

Just a bonus tip, try to maximize and refine your charisma and ability to make ppl laugh. Also try to have a group of friends that all have high social value. Even guys that are mid will have many easy layups if they have these attributes and hang out with a ton of high tier men. For example, I’m in a frat and when I go out I go out with a large group of charismatic and good looking dudes which automatically boosts my value.

 

[AJis18]

I was looking for nothing seurios tbh

So are half the people in this forum bro. Idk where ur from but the easiest way to get laid is to just get hammered and go to a club/bar and start talking to women. if you get lucky a girl will approach you (girls are much more likely to approach when they’re drunk and bored).

If your not of age or there’s not rly a party scene near u then u just gotta make friends with men that can pull. That’s how I started talking to girls when I was younger, I just had a friend with maxed out confidence go and approach girls and then I would chime in.

Lastly, and I mean this should be the last option, continue refining your looks and you’ll get approached. For some reason I get approached a lot and it’s definitely because of the new amount of effort I have started to put into my looks. However, the type of girl that will approach a guy in the club is probably not the type of girl that you’ll want to date js sayin.

Just a bonus tip, try to maximize and refine your charisma and ability to make ppl laugh. Also try to have a group of friends that all have high social value. Even guys that are mid will have many easy layups if they have these attributes and hang out with a ton of high tier men. For example, I’m in a frat and when I go out I go out with a large group of charismatic and good looking dudes which automatically boosts my value.

high IQ response thx bro

 

[AJis18]

So are half the people in this forum bro. Idk where ur from but the easiest way to get laid is to just get hammered and go to a club/bar and start talking to women. if you get lucky a girl will approach you (girls are much more likely to approach when they’re drunk and bored).

If your not of age or there’s not rly a party scene near u then u just gotta make friends with men that can pull. That’s how I started talking to girls when I was younger, I just had a friend with maxed out confidence go and approach girls and then I would chime in.

Lastly, and I mean this should be the last option, continue refining your looks and you’ll get approached. For some reason I get approached a lot and it’s definitely because of the new amount of effort I have started to put into my looks. However, the type of girl that will approach a guy in the club is probably not the type of girl that you’ll want to date js sayin.

Just a bonus tip, try to maximize and refine your charisma and ability to make ppl laugh. Also try to have a group of friends that all have high social value. Even guys that are mid will have many easy layups if they have these attributes and hang out with a ton of high tier men. For example, I’m in a frat and when I go out I go out with a large group of charismatic and good looking dudes which automatically boosts my value.

I'm 18 u cant club until your 21 I think

high IQ response thx bro

I take a medcine clondien and my doctor says it lowers motivation as a ide effect twitch depression side effect and dry lips despite sayin git lowers stress should I try to get off it ?

 

[LogicTism1]

I'm 18 u cant club until your 21 I think

I take a medcine clondien and my doctor says it lowers motivation as a ide effect twitch depression side effect and dry lips despite sayin git lowers stress should I try to get off it ?

I was taking a very similar medication for anxiety that got me depressed and after just going full cold turkey I have been feeling sm better (it’s been like 6 months now).

Idk how much that will change your ability to talk to women but js know practice is key and rejection isn’t the end of the world. Hell, there are so many girls that I wish I asked out when I was younger but didn’t cuz I was too much of a pussy. That “could have been” feeling will feel much worse than outright rejection.

Idk where ur from too but in the US (where the laws are p strict for this sorta thing) the minimum age is 18 in a lot of clubs.

 

[rand anon]

So are half the people in this forum bro. Idk where ur from but the easiest way to get laid is to just get hammered and go to a club/bar and start talking to women. if you get lucky a girl will approach you (girls are much more likely to approach when they’re drunk and bored).

If your not of age or there’s not rly a party scene near u then u just gotta make friends with men that can pull. That’s how I started talking to girls when I was younger, I just had a friend with maxed out confidence go and approach girls and then I would chime in.

Lastly, and I mean this should be the last option, continue refining your looks and you’ll get approached. For some reason I get approached a lot and it’s definitely because of the new amount of effort I have started to put into my looks. However, the type of girl that will approach a guy in the club is probably not the type of girl that you’ll want to date js sayin.

Just a bonus tip, try to maximize and refine your charisma and ability to make ppl laugh. Also try to have a group of friends that all have high social value. Even guys that are mid will have many easy layups if they have these attributes and hang out with a ton of high tier men. For example, I’m in a frat and when I go out I go out with a large group of charismatic and good looking dudes which automatically boosts my value.

NT ramblings, plus not all of us wanna get wasted just to hve a chance at pulling

 

[LogicTism1]

NT ramblings, plus not all of us wanna get wasted just to hve a chance at pulling

it was js a suggestion and I gave several other options.

Only recommended it bc when ur drunk confidence skyrockets and it’s much easier to talk to women especially in a club setting and if this dude is tryna get laid that is the quickest way he prolly can.

Honestly going to a bar or club sober you’ll still have a decent shot bc a lot of the girls there are js tryna get laid as well.

 

[rand anon]

it was js a suggestion and I gave several other options.

Only recommended it bc when ur drunk confidence skyrockets and it’s much easier to talk to women especially in a club setting and if this dude is tryna get laid that is the quickest way he prolly can.

Op is a manlet like me, clubs won’t work, too dark of an environment where ur height and physique matter a ton

Honestly going to a bar or club sober you’ll still have a decent shot bc a lot of the girls there are js tryna get laid as well.

Bars could work I guess, going sober while being non NT is just gonna force u to rely on ur face card though

 

[rand anon]

@AJis18 try bars if u rly wanna, don’t wanna discourage u from getting any sort of experience. The sooner the better

 

[AJis18]

I was taking a very similar medication for anxiety that got me depressed and after just going full cold turkey I have been feeling sm better (it’s been like 6 months now).

Idk how much that will change your ability to talk to women but js know practice is key and rejection isn’t the end of the world. Hell, there are so many girls that I wish I asked out when I was younger but didn’t cuz I was too much of a pussy. That “could have been” feeling will feel much worse than outright rejection.

Idk where ur from too but in the US (where the laws are p strict for this sorta thing) the minimum age is 18 in a lot of clubs.

@AJis18 try bars if u rly wanna, don’t wanna discourage u from getting any sort of experience. The sooner the better

I will try bars but I refuse to drink tbh

 

[LogicTism1]

Op is a manlet like me, clubs won’t work, too dark of an environment where ur height and physique matter a ton


Bars could work I guess, going sober while being non NT is just gonna force u to rely on ur face card though

Non NT as in non - neurotypical right? If that’s what you mean i have terrible adhd and basically had to force myself in social situations for years to get the personality I have now. Unless you have grade A autism, personality is fixable imo.

And my friends that fuck the most are literally 5’5 and 5’6, with a body count between 20-30 each. I get that being short makes things harder, but blaming height as an inability to pull is just cope and it’s more the personality or looks if ur unable to. I’m 6’1 too I’m not short but this is coming from my experience.

 

[rand anon]

I will try bars but I refuse to drink tbh

Rip, I stay sober as well, it’s a lonely road bud

 

[AJis18]

Non NT as in non - neurotypical right? If that’s what you mean i have terrible adhd and basically had to force myself in social situations for years to get the personality I have now. Unless you have grade A autism, personality is fixable imo.

And my friends that fuck the most are literally 5’5 and 5’6, with a body count between 20-30 each. I get that being short makes things harder, but blaming height as an inability to pull is just cope and it’s more the personality or looks if ur unable to. I’m 6’1 too I’m not short but this is coming from my experience.

I got u bro yeah personality is a good trait to have if your MTN plus below that I feel like its cope mostly tho

 

[rand anon]

Non NT as in non - neurotypical right? If that’s what you mean i have terrible adhd and basically had to force myself in social situations for years to get the personality I have now. Unless you have grade A autism, personality is fixable imo.

And my friends that fuck the most are literally 5’5 and 5’6, with a body count between 20-30 each. I get that being short makes things harder, but blaming height as an inability to pull is just cope and it’s more the personality or looks if ur unable to. I’m 6’1 too I’m not short but this is coming from my experience.

I won’t speak for op, but I’m shorter and hve other failos

No point going back and forth on this, at the end of the day u think personality’s fixable whereas I think it’s all genetically predetermined

 

[LogicTism1]

I got u bro yeah personality is a good trait to have if your MTN plus below that I feel like its cope mostly tho

That’s just not true. I’ve literally watched personality work wonders IRL.

One of my boys in the frat, easily the worst-looking of all of us (we roast him for it all the time), pulled a literal Stacy purely off personality. He’s tall, sure, but it was all vibe, confidence, and how he talked to her.

What bothers me about this forum is how much it downplays social calibration. Like yeah, looks matter. But I see guys here who are objectively attractive still getting no attention from girls and it’s because their vibe and energy are off.

Looks open the door but personality and social value get you invited inside

 

[LogicTism1]

I won’t speak for op, but I’m shorter and hve other failos

No point going back and forth on this, at the end of the day u think personality’s fixable whereas I think it’s all genetically predetermined

I think js it’s unfortunate you don’t have hope and believe in yourself. Whatever situation ur in I promise I probably used to have it worse.