do ppl here actually hate gay ppl

[Penalizer69]

for women, all girls ive been friends with inclduing my sisters have had a bisexual  phase

Key word here

asexuals still are attacted to people romantially tho

I'm saying that if asexuals met the right person they'd have sex (they wouldnt)

Aromantics do exist though (but that's probably actually linked to mental illness)

 

[1894]

That's the point

You'd have to directly diagnose homosexuality to being a mental illness, which you can't, because guess what we found out it wasn't and stopped treating it as such for a reason

Can you say the same thing about pedos ?

 

[slim_jim001]

Key word here

I'm saying that if asexuals met the right person they'd have sex (they wouldnt)

Aromantics do exist though (but that's probably actually linked to mental illness)

i just dont believe in labels, vaginas dont say insert penis here its just up for people to label things and say whats normal and whats not

 

[Penalizer69]

Can you say the same thing about pedos ?

Pedophilia and homosexuality are actually similar in that manor. Pedophilia IS a sexuality, but that doesn't make it right (it's also why like homosexuality it can't be cured)

 

[slim_jim001]

Can you say the same thing about pedos ?

pedophilia IS a mental disorder

 

[slim_jim001]

Pedophilia and homosexuality are actually similar in that manor. Pedophilia IS a sexuality, but that doesn't make it right (it's also why like homosexuality it can't be cured)

pedopholia is not a sexuality their turned on by how small and powerless they are its almost the same as a kink

 

[Penalizer69]

pedopholia is not a sexuality their turned on by how small and powerless they are its almost the same as a kink

That's correlation not causation

 

[slim_jim001]

pedophilia is also described as being attracted to PRE pubescent children which i think is kinda weird but appearntly a 20 year old being atrcated to a 16 year old isnt by phychologist. Still fucking weird tho

 

[slim_jim001]

That's correlation not causation

wtv this means

 

[1894]

Pedophilia and homosexuality are actually similar in that manor. Pedophilia IS a sexuality, but that doesn't make it right (it's also why like homosexuality it can't be cured)

In my unfixed opinion as I said by looking at the productive systems in males and females and how they fit each other I’ll say anything else is unnatural and is a mental illness
Curable or not it’s not my thing but I think both are mental illnesses and should be treated again I’m open to change my opinion for a valid reply

 

[Penalizer69]

In my unfixed opinion as I said by looking at the productive systems in males and females and how they fit each other I’ll say anything else is unnatural and is a mental illness
Curable or not it’s not my thing but I think both are mental illnesses and should be treated again I’m open to change my opinion for a valid reply

I'm gonna go back to the nature thing cause I think it was poorly argued on both sides.

How would you define something as natural if not by animals actions?

 

[slim_jim001]

In my unfixed opinion as I said by looking at the productive systems in males and females and how they fit each other I’ll say anything else is unnatural and is a mental illness
Curable or not it’s not my thing but I think both are mental illnesses and should be treated again I’m open to change my opinion for a valid reply

only differnece is that homos can live functioning lives pedos on averaeg have significant lower iqs there was a study

 

[1894]

pedophilia is also described as being attracted to PRE pubescent children which i think is kinda weird but appearntly a 20 year old being atrcated to a 16 year old isnt by phychologist. Still fucking weird tho

You think 20 and 16 is weird now because of social pressure 200 years ago people would laugh at you for saying this

And this works the same way for homosexuality too if it wasn’t as socially acceptable and actually labeled as a mental illness and treated in clinics it wouldn’t be the same

 

[1894]

I'm gonna go back to the nature thing cause I think it was poorly argued on both sides.

How would you define something as natural if not by animals actions?

By Looking at human body parts and how they work

 

[slim_jim001]

You think it’s weird now because of social pressure 200 years ago people would laugh at you for saying this

And this works the same way for homosexuality too if it wasn’t as socially acceptable and actually labeled as a mental illness and treated in clinics it wouldn’t be the same

true most guys would go for 14-17 year old girls if there was no laws, but they where made for them not to get exploited and protect them cause in the end they are just children even if they are physically attractive. Ive have people hit on me then find out my age and block, they can be sexually attracted to younlyns and not it be pedopholia but their in two different stages in life hence why its wrong

 

[slim_jim001]

lots of experimenting goes into that lmao

By Looking at human body parts and how they work

 

[Penalizer69]

By Looking at human body parts and how they work

At the end of the day animals (humans included clearly) act in ways which go against continuation of the species. Animals often eat their babies for example, if a teenage girl gets pregnant (despite being fertile) she's far more likely to have complications and die during birth, and on the other end of the spectrum women become drastically less fertile and prone to complications in their 30s (which is incredibly young)

Still you'd have to take into consideration animals, because once again the end goal is the same (reproduction). You can't just dismiss the fact that animals are also homosexual

 

[1894]

At the end of the day animals (humans included clearly) act in ways which go against continuation of the species. Animals often eat their babies for example, if a teenage girl gets pregnant (despite being fertile) she's far more likely to have complications and die during birth, and on the other end of the spectrum women become drastically less fertile and prone to complications in their 30s (which is incredibly young)

Still you'd have to take into consideration animals, because once again the end goal is the same (reproduction). You can't just dismiss the fact that animals are also homosexual

Animals don’t have the same brain development we can’t use them as a pedestal in everything. My point is
Let’s assume I’m an ape r****d I have a dick and I saw another person from the same species as me with a different reproductive part I won’t say ohh maybe i should sit on a stick I’ll say this is made for that and why ? To reproduce

 

[slim_jim001]

Animals don’t have the same brain development we can’t use them as a pedestal in everything. My point is
Let’s assume I’m an ape r****d I have a dick and I saw another person from the same species as me with a different reproductive part I won’t say ohh maybe i should sit on a stick I’ll say this is made for that and why ? To reproduce

but wtv animals do is natural

 

[slim_jim001]

but wtv animals do is natural

like masturbation most animals masturbate seen in nature aka natural and thats not needed for sexual reprodcution

 

[Penalizer69]

Animals don’t have the same brain development we can’t use them as a pedestal in everything. My point is
Let’s assume I’m an ape r****d I have a dick and I saw another person from the same species as me with a different reproductive part I won’t say ohh maybe i should sit on a stick I’ll say this is made for that and why ? To reproduce

Well instinctively every animal knows how to reproduce

Also monogamous animals have long term queer relationships where they'd obviously realise it was the same gender and that they can't reproduce even after mating many times. There's also non monogamous animals which either exclusively or largely go for same sex animals, I doubt that's an accident

 

[1894]

but wtv animals do is natural

Meh not really

 

[Penalizer69]

but wtv animals do is natural

His point is animals don't realise what they're doing basically

 

[1894]

Well instinctively every animal knows how to reproduce

Also monogamous animals have long term queer relationships where they'd obviously realise it was the same gender and that they can't reproduce even after mating many times. There's also non monogamous animals which either exclusively or largely go for same sex animals, I doubt that's an accident

animals can be born with brain disorders too

 

[slim_jim001]

animals can be born with brain disorders too

heheh retarded hamsters would be funny

 

[Penalizer69]

animals can be born with brain disorders too

But there's 0 proof you're just shifting goalposts

 

[1894]

But there's 0 proof you're just shifting goalposts

Diseases of the Brain and Cranial Nerves - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[slim_jim001]

i

Diseases of the Brain and Cranial Nerves - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

love this site it always wins my battles

 

[Penalizer69]

Diseases of the Brain and Cranial Nerves - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I don't see any mention of homosexuality and the study was preformed on feline brains

Quite contradicting

 

[1894]

I don't see any mention of homosexuality and the study was preformed on feline brains

Quite contradicting

I thought you wanted proof for animals having brain disorders which is funny but I did it anyway

Ofc I won’t find shit cause studies are biased now

 

[Penalizer69]

Ofc I won’t find shit cause studies are biased now

I find it unrealistic that you wouldn't be able to find 1 study if there was any truth to it, even if that was just an old shitty one.

it just proves that youve come to this conclusion irrationally with no proof

 

[1894]

I find it unrealistic that you wouldn't be able to find 1 study if there was any truth to it, even if that was just an old shitty one.

it just proves that youve come to this conclusion irrationally with no proof

My eyes and connecting dots using my conscious from obvious stuff sounds rational to me

you want proof on what exactly cause I’m lost now

 

[slim_jim001]

My eyes and connecting dots using my conscious from obvious stuff sounds rational to me

you want proof on what exactly cause I’m lost now

guys stop fighting nothis is coming out og this argument

 

[Penalizer69]

My eyes and connecting dots using my conscious from obvious stuff sounds rational to me

I mean there's proof homosexuality is just something you're born with, I've gave real scientific rebuttals to all of your points and your reasoning is simply "connecting dots"

I don't think it's possible to change your mind because your reasoning is irrational

Proof > no proof simple as that.

 

[1894]

guys stop fighting nothis is coming out og this argument

I’m not fighting lol over is like my forum nephew

 

[1894]

I mean there's proof homosexuality is just something you're born with, I've gave real scientific rebuttals to all of your points and your reasoning is simply "connecting dots"

I don't think it's possible to change your mind because your reasoning is irrational

Proof > no proof simple as that.

Yah the same way you can be born with mental disorders that’s what I said earlier

The language barrier here is killing me idk how to explain the connecting dots part but I hope you get it

 

[churro.org]

I think it’s mental illness
In nature the productive systems are already pretty obvious anything else is unnatural
Mental illness basically

room temp IQ

 

[Currycelloser]

but i also know there are some very very old trans people that have been on hrt/test for decades and have no health problems stemmed from it

selection bias, survival bias, few exceptions dont prove a rule

i guess my argument of "i havent seen it" doesnt really stand up but i genuinely have never heard or seen any doctors recommend it, i have only heard of doctors advise against it. do you have any sources???

there arent sources showing that doctors promote it, but multiple clinics and health organisations say its healthy and good for trans people which is false, like this one https://www.uclahealth.org/medical-services/gender-health/patient-resources/patient-stories

 

[Currycelloser]

I think it’s a mental illness, orientation is fixed naturally by knowing how the productive systems work
1+1=2

nature isnt that simple, and u have any studies showing that gay people are mentally ill?

 

[thehammer]

or do yall js say that and are actually fine with it

I cant hate on @Byro or @submissivechud

 

[Aryy]

or do yall js say that and are actually fine with it

i dont hate anyone, none of my business especially if it isnt harming anyone

 

[churro.org]

I think it’s mental illness
In nature the productive systems are already pretty obvious anything else is unnatural
Mental illness basically

i think that being gay is natural and being transgender is actually mental illness (it's been proven). you'd actually know the difference if you weren't dumbass

 

[jest]

selection bias, survival bias, few exceptions dont prove a rule

there arent sources showing that doctors promote it, but multiple clinics and health organisations say its healthy and good for trans people which is false, like this one https://www.uclahealth.org/medical-services/gender-health/patient-resources/patient-stories

i just fully read the article, unless im genuinely impaired i couldn't see any doctors promoting or recommending it and saying that its healthy, only good for their mental health. only patient stories which is technically considered selection bias itself.

any sources that say it longterm causes severe health issues? i could understand slight side effects, but haven't seen any severe life threatening issues with either hrt or test

 

[Currycelloser]

i just fully read the article, unless im genuinely impaired i couldn't see any doctors promoting or recommending it and saying that its healthy, only good for their mental health. only patient stories which is technically considered selection bias itself.

yeah as I said there isnt any article explicitly saying that doctors promote HRT, but yeah sure good for mental health but saying its healthy is a stretch

any sources that say it longterm causes severe health issues? i could understand slight side effects, but haven't seen any severe life threatening issues with either hrt or test

my point is that we will not know if it causes longterm severe health issues cause there arent long term data with many trans people who has lived long term, but we do generally know how hrt can be bad for cardiovascular health, oxidative stress, inflammation, injecting ur body with exogenous hormones is always a bad thing regardless of the purpose

 

[True Aryan Incel]

or do yall js say that and are actually fine with it

No, people just say they do on the internet to sound edgy but irl no one cares

 

[jest]

yeah as I said there isnt any article explicitly saying that doctors promote HRT, but yeah sure good for mental health but saying its healthy is a stretch

my point is that we will not know if it causes longterm severe health issues cause there arent long term data with many trans people who has lived long term, but we do generally know how hrt can be bad for cardiovascular health, oxidative stress, inflammation, injecting ur body with exogenous hormones is always a bad thing regardless of the purpose

i can agree that it might not be healthy, so i will take that back. i don't understand why that necessarily is a problem though?? if it makes them truly happy and less dysphoric, why do you disagree with it? you said because it is dangerous and has risks, but the coffee or energy drinks that you drink in the morning could send you into cardiac arrest any time, alcohol is genuine poison, and eating a burger could clog your arteries and kill you as well. i guess i just don't understand why you are against it if everything that makes you happy could kill you

 

[Currycelloser]

but the coffee or energy drinks that you drink in the morning could send you into cardiac arrest any time, alcohol is genuine poison, and eating a burger could clog your arteries and kill you as well. i guess i just don't understand why you are against it if everything that makes you happy could kill you

yeah and i agree, i will never promote those poisons, imagine eating poisons to stay happy, alcohol, burgers, coffee, etc are poisons (burgers depends on ingredients and coffee depends on the dose tbh). Also u cant use these food to justify injecting hormones and chemically altering ur body for ur own happiness

i can agree that it might not be healthy, so i will take that back. i don't understand why that necessarily is a problem though?? if it makes them truly happy and less dysphoric

what ur saying is hedonism, this can be used to justify anything, drug use too

 

[Letmesleep]

i would hope no one is
they will face
my wrath

TFD

 

[Deleted Member 85516]

or do yall js say that and are actually fine with it

I dont hate them and i also dont say that i hate them
I use the term f*g often though but I treat fags like any other human

 

[Anna]

do people here actually hate trans people?