Do you support women being financially independent?

[Deleted Member 87595]

Manosphere favors women who cook, clean and look after family and kids. Women these days don't support this idea. I do feel they have a reason to reject this idea of tradition.

Women will say they don't feel good asking money from their husbands if they want to buy something. They think asking from men means humiliation.

Women just want to have their own money. Women having careers may have hard time doing chores, that's the reality.

 

[vespertine]

until you've found the right guy, someone whos truly a "soul mate" would i find it reasonable for a woman to forgo financial autonomy. that condition often wont be met as most men aren't willing or capable of putting in the effort to sustain such a dynamic and even than most women aren't worth breaking your back for

 

[mus]

ye idgaf
if its my (potential) wife we'll make our own agreements

 

[Deleted Member 87595]

ye idgaf
if its my (potential) wife we'll make our own agreements

That means manosphere mindset isn't so widespread I think

 

[mus]

That means manosphere mindset isn't so widespread I think

nowadays not that much, for what ive experienced in the netherlands most both work fulltime, if they have one or more kids they often both work parttime, but manosphere? not really. thats just the western world tho. personally in a moroccan household its the husband works, the wife stays at home

 

[Jazmin]

Manosphere favors women who cook, clean and look after family and kids. Women these days don't support this idea. I do feel they have a reason to reject this idea of tradition.

Women will say they don't feel good asking money from their husbands if they want to buy something. They think asking from men means humiliation.

Women just want to have their own money. Women having careers may have hard time doing chores, that's the reality.

times have changed, traditions have as well. women being financially independent on their husband was arguably a form of control and restricted womens autonomy to do what they wished with their daily lives. i do support that men have their duty as the man of the house, and i do believe women have their duty to be a carer for children and housework. until a women has found herself a husband who is able to financially take care of her without controlling her, women SHOULD be financially independent. while raising children, it does make sense why a women would be financially dependent on her husband.

 

[TonyDr]

even than most women aren't worth breaking your back for

This. Don't go into the SAHW/M bullshit you'll just pay the bills and the lifestyle of a foid who don't do chores, don't birth your kids and don't even appreciates you.

Manosphere favors women who cook, clean and look after family and kids. Women these days don't support this idea. I do feel they have a reason to reject this idea of tradition.

Women will say they don't feel good asking money from their husbands if they want to buy something. They think asking from men means humiliation.

Women just want to have their own money. Women having careers may have hard time doing chores, that's the reality.

Women always worked while birthing kids and take care of the house. Don't let a foid be your financial burden.

She needs to have her own money and her own life, and if the girl still pursue you and make "sacrifices" like birthing your biological kids and move in with you, then she just love you enough, and doesn't have any plans to ruin your life and use you.

NEVER EVER lock a woman because she will leave you anyways for resenting you.

And if she has that "muh i need no men" mindset she's just a red flag and would have used men to get money, like those cashapp broke women

 

[Deleted Member 87595]

nowadays not that much, for what ive experienced in the netherlands most both work fulltime, if they have one or more kids they often both work parttime, but manosphere? not really. thats just the western world tho. personally in a moroccan household its the husband works, the wife stays at home

So who does the household chores in Netherlands?

 

[mus]

So who does the household chores in Netherlands?

both the husband and wife

 

[Deleted Member 87595]

times have changed, traditions have as well. women being financially independent on their husband was arguably a form of control and restricted womens autonomy to do what they wished with their daily lives. i do support that men have their duty as the man of the house, and i do believe women have their duty to be a carer for children and housework. until a women has found herself a husband who is able to financially take care of her without controlling her, women SHOULD be financially independent. while raising children, it does make sense why a women would be financially dependent on her husband.

Life was different in past. You cannot judge old times people according to present standards.

Also women always had kids from 16 to 40 years out of which many kids used to die. No doubt they were confined to home.

 

[Deleted Member 87595]

both the husband and wife

Doesn't it takes a lot of time to cook food, clean clothes and wash the whole house?

Indians hire maids to do those things.

 

[Deleted Member 87595]

both the husband and wife

Doesn't it takes a lot of time to cook food, clean clothes and wash the whole house?

Indians hire maids to do those things.

 

[Deleted Member 87595]

This. Don't go into the SAHW/M bullshit you'll just pay the bills and the lifestyle of a foid who don't do chores, don't birth your kids and don't even appreciates you.


Women always worked while birthing kids and take care of the house. Don't let a foid be your financial burden.

She needs to have her own money and her own life, and if the girl still pursue you and make "sacrifices" like birthing your biological kids and move in with you, then she just love you enough, and doesn't have any plans to ruin your life and use you.

NEVER EVER lock a woman because she will leave you anyways for resenting you.

And if she has that "muh i need no men" mindset she's just a red flag and would have used men to get money, like those cashapp broke women

Very balanced viewpoint

 

[mus]

Doesn't it takes a lot of time to cook food, clean clothes and wash the whole house?

Indians hire maids to do those things.

idk

 

[Jazmin]

Life was different in past. You cannot judge old times people according to present standards.

Also women always had kids from 16 to 40 years out of which many kids used to die. No doubt they were confined to home.

I am not judging, as i said, traditions have changed and it was very common practice 100 years ago for men to have control of their wives. I am just glad it is not like that anymore. I'm currently 16 and have just one nephew who I regularly take care of for my sister ( who is a stay at home mum). Even one child is hard work and is basically a full time job to take care of. I understand why new mothers are unable to work and must stay home, relying on their partners for income.

 

[Deleted Member 87595]

I am not judging, as i said, traditions have changed and it was very common practice 100 years ago for men to have control of their wives. I am just glad it is not like that anymore. I'm currently 16 and have just one nephew who I regularly take care of for my sister ( who is a stay at home mum). Even one child is hard work and is basically a full time job to take care of. I understand why new mothers are unable to work and must stay home, relying on their partners for income.

In past people had farms and no such thing as school. Everyone at home used to look after the farm and animals, including kids.