Does Epicurus' paradox disprove religion?

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@Knight @sigmagoy last religious post of the day I swear

 

[Penalizer69]

No the theory that God is all good is niave

 

[dipenhydramine]

shut up bro you are not this smart you are fucking sub saharan

 

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No the theory that God is all good is niave

Ye that's why I said religion not God

 

[Deleted Member 82102]

There is no evil

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[Penalizer69]

Ye that's why I said religion not God

Same goes

 

[gimp]

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@Knight @sigmagoy last religious post of the day I swear

God is good but he will punish you if you don’t do all the things he said , that make so much sense

 

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Same goes

Not really, an indifrent God is different than the Abrahamic one

 

[Deleted Member 78476]

no I did this in class
response is that we are too limited to understand his eternal mind or something

 

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no I did this in class
response is that we are too limited to understand his eternal mind or something

That was the response to the paradox?

 

[Lebensmude]

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This entire thing is nonsensical because He didn’t create evil, evil isn’t a thing, it’s a lack of Good. He gave humans free will which is a good thing but we committed original sin with it permanently corrupting human nature. A human with their free will has the ability to choose between good or evil

 

[Deleted Member 78476]

That was the response to the paradox?

yes like a professional chess player you wont understand his next move because you arent a professional

 

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yes like a professional chess player you wont understand his next move because you arent a professional

Makes sense that's what religious people do most of the time (leave it to God)

 

[Deleted Member 82102]

With all of God's compassion it's only right that he give the picky ones what they wish for

You could argue that some or most people enjoy eternal suffering, they love the grind. And hence it's not evil or morally corrupt to send them to hell.

Think about it, what would life be like knowing there's nothing to achieve, no relief after pain. All you have is goodness. Then you get bored of it(albeit some enjoy it)

And the bible doesn't mention hell as being evil, just fiery and tormenting

 

[Deleted Member 78476]

Makes sense that's what religious people do most of the time (leave it to God)

we are all pawns in his game some could say

 

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we are all pawns in his game some could say

 

[Lebensmude]

With all of God's compassion it's only right that he give the picky ones what they wish for

You could argue that some or most people enjoy eternal suffering, they love the grind. And hence it's not evil or morally corrupt to send them to hell.

Think about it, what would life be like knowing there's nothing to achieve, no relief after pain. All you have is goodness. Then you get bored of it(albeit some enjoy it)

And the bible doesn't mention hell as being evil, just fiery and tormenting

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God doesn’t send people to hell, they use their movement of free will to choose Evil over Good and thusly they cant go to heaven, since its the body of Christ
& pure good, so they go someplace else, which is evil, due to the absence of good. I think most people have an innate desire to do atleast some good, and God is pure good, so it would probably be torture to know that you could have had eternal bliss ans the highest level of happiness but instead you chose to have the absence of that

 

[Deleted Member 82102]

God doesn’t send people to hell, they use their movement of free will to choose Evil over Good and thusly they cant go to heaven, since its the body of Christ
& pure good, so they go someplace else, which is evil, due to the absence of good. I think most people have an innate desire to do atleast some good, and God is pure good, so it would probably be torture to know that you could have had eternal bliss ans the highest level of happiness but instead you chose to have the absence of that

Case in point on the first part about free will, why do they choose evil over good? Some people are corrupted by the soul. They've sold their souls and as such they have no innate desire for anything, be it bliss or pleasure even. They obviously have done it to gain some material reward but in the end, what it does is it removes any receptors of good and bad from your brain. This is why some people after they've sold their soul they start to differentiate the good and the bad by lighting and stuff, hence the term "glowie" Note; it's the subconscious that's there it's not them afterwards

 

[Lebensmude]

Case in point on the first part about free will, why do they choose evil over good? Some people are corrupted by the soul. They've sold their souls and as such they have no innate desire for anything, be it bliss or pleasure even. They obviously have done it to gain some material reward but in the end, what it does is it removes any receptors of good and bad from your brain. This is why some people after they've sold their soul they start to differentiate the good and the bad by lighting and stuff, hence the term "glowie" Note; it's the subconscious that's there it's not them afterwards

All people are corrupted by the soul, but the conscience will still move towards perceived good.

 

[sigmagoy]

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I answered to this before, he created us out of mercy to experience the beauty of life even though he knows some of us are going to hell that's still up to those people, even though everything has been recorded.

He allows for evil to exist because that's not his job to prevent, otherwise there would be no need to test us if there was only good. God still doesn't want evil but again that's up to us.

 

[Deleted Member 82102]

All people are corrupted by the soul, but the conscience will still move towards perceived good.

keyword: perceived. Their conscience is rotten at that point and they'll maneuver towards the sty. I ask you genuinely why are there cartels out there, why are there retardo tier school shootings out there? At some point you just have to make the assumption that those people not exactly the same as others. There's like 8 billion people in the world rn or so they say and guess how many would want eternal bliss for themselves and the others? Would it even be 40%? IMO no point in convincing said people. No casting pearls before swine

 

[Ghoultune]

no I did this in class
response is that we are too limited to understand his eternal mind or something

I’m different

 

[Deleted Member 78476]

I’m different

unlimited being and that

 

[Lebensmude]

keyword: perceived. Their conscience is rotten at that point and they'll maneuver towards the sty. I ask you genuinely why are there cartels out there, why are there retardo tier school shootings out there? At some point you just have to make the assumption that those people not exactly the same as others. There's like 8 billion people in the world rn or so they say and guess how many would want eternal bliss for themselves and the others? Would it even be 40%? IMO no point in convincing said people. No casting pearls before swine

Actions of the conscience change depending on the person due to good being perceived, there are things that are “naturally good”, that most people live by. For example, if you see a child drowning, you’d save them. Someone who wouldnt save a drowning child, not through ignoring the conscience, but rather through genuine lack of perceived good, will eat and drink, because they don’t want to die, not dying is a natural good, the conscience moved you towards it. Most people who do horrible things, like the cartel, are aware that they are doing bad things, they are just not aware how bad they actually are.

 

[Lebensmude]

no I did this in class
response is that we are too limited to understand his eternal mind or something

Retarded response your teacher should read some St Thomae Aquinas

 

[Deleted Member 78476]

Retarded response your teacher should read some St Thomae Aquinas

we know all about his ontological arguments and that

 

[its0ver]

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Free will