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Gouenji is team Becky sorry pali tagged you so we could jump her n***a im trying to avoid getting cooked at all costs
ill send links for u to do your own research of the complex and precarious history of Ireland
By the way I'm not saying TikTok is a good source of information, the video is of an Irish singer explaining what happened if you want to give it a listen.
And the second video just sort of gives u a small idea about the early 1900's of Ireland.
"English rule for hundreds of years that erased our culture and language almost completely, killed our people, fueled famines, incited violence across the island as a whole, spread a toxic image of our people that resulted in Irish people being discriminated against globally with some places still having a very negative ...21 Mar 2023"
British rule in Ireland - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
so before you try educate me on the atrocities committed by the English on my country, take some time to know what you're talking about before speaking.
yeah MISTAKEN would be a fucking understatement pal. We were made a fucking mockery of and still are left with the shreds that remains of Ireland now. I'm lucky enough to be one of the small 30,000 people that speak my native language and we have no other to blame than the English conquerors for that. We were paid off to not teach our children Irish. We were victim to extreme murder and brutality up until just about 30 years ago with the troubles in the north. My own parents had their cars blown up. People in my family died to brits, but im not gonna sit here and huff and puff and throw a strop about it. Crying about how shit your country is because it got conquered by a nation stronger than yours won't do anything.
What went on in South America is not even comparable to what went on in Ireland. End of discussion on that.
"international relations" in question:
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The Irish were loathed. But don't worry I seen you said "later on" and here's how said relations did NOT come into play later on:
-Did not partake in either world war.
-During the troubles in the 80's the republic and the north received NO help from any international country
-EU Bailout (2008–2010) Despite EU membership, Ireland had NO leverage to negotiate softer bailout terms.
he international relations Ireland had (within EU or with the US) didn’t protect it from harsh austerity measures and Ireland couldn’t rally broader global financial support or soften EU-imposed terms using international diplomacy.
-Partition of Ireland (1921) No international powers intervened to prevent or influence partition. The Treaty negotiations were bilateral There was NO involvement from the League of Nations. Ireland didn’t seek or receive international arbitration to prevent partition or protect minority rights in the North.
Others you can look into yourself include:
-Lack of NATO membership
-UN membership
-Language and culture Preservation
-Brexit fallout.
And we did NOT "much money" because no one would hire the Irish. As you can see from the images I included, no one wanted anything to do with Irish people. We were down there with blacks in America, and even worse in other countries.
I find this laughable that you haven't even bothered to look into what REALLY happened during the famine, which is exactly what I have highlighted. You hear all this about potatoes and that's all we eat because that is all we COULD eat. Every last other plant and food source of livestock was taken away from us and exported out for profit by the English.
This is a great point you made. Ireland would not be attractive without the English influence on the country. That's why I don't whine about it, I have just very briefly explained it above. So here I don't disagree with you, but there's plenty of non-English speaking countries in Europe that are a lot more well-off than Ireland, without the influence of the English. For example, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, Germany, Finland, and Denmark.
I have already addressed points similar to this above. As for education here are some things the English did to Ireland's education:
-The Penal Laws (1695–1829) – No Education for Catholics
-Anglicization of Curriculum
-National School System (1831) – Subtle Control
-No Universities for Catholics
Yet we still came out better-off than South Americans.
Here's some proof that race DOES actually impact IQ:
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Then there was an argument proposed that the latter had lower IQ due to poverty and lack of education.
So there was a study done that was where black children were adopted into white families, given all the education the same as their white "siblings" and yet the blacks still had a lower IQ with being raised in THE EXACT SAME conditions and given the EXACT SAME opportunities.
Here's this study it's actually very interesting, you should give it a read.
Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study - Wikipedia
Cheers lad
Anyway I'm excited for your response this is getting fun
bit more than slight...
n***a idk what this is about but I’m on your side, fuck the Irish bitch
you slimey double crossing african mongrel
white girls can only talk to me like this when we are fucking.
n***a GET OUTTTTUGHHH
Muh dick n***a sheittt
Is this meant to be a argument on discrimination or whoever is a bigger victim ?
no hes using the victim card on south america to why theyre retarded and have the highest crime rate and are poor as shit and i made the argument ireland had the exact same if not worse treatment and still come out significantly on top, with the only difference being their race
Not really the cultures are immensely different , and while yes culture is influenced by genetics there are a multitude of other factors that can impact it for example private property rights.
well cultures can exist without private property rights by communal ownership and collective responsibility of the country or group of people, and shared resources, which would prioritize equality and sustainability over individual wealth accumulation.
Not really what I'm talking about, but you can see when what you said happens (ie soviet union) how badly that affects the culture of the nation.
Its mostly the way latin america was colonized, plus in general poverty tends to be a very vicious cycle
read the threat before commenting. your comment has already been addressed and debunked
You did not, also Ireland is a much older country than anything in latin america so its had a lot more time to build itself back up from scratch because it has done this many times before, not to mention the fact that its close to another thriving economy and generaly has far less corrupt officials because its had plenty of time to weed them out
you don’t know me and you don’t know that I was joking with a friend. Go back to TikTok sfcel.
n***a can't take a joke for the life of him
I don’t know you.
Those who know
Ireland has had a head start with its history of rebuilding. But proximity to thriving economies doesn't equal success, which is a simple and objective fact. (Mexico and USA) read above about some of Ireland's past troubles and you'll find they're much worse than South America's, objectively. Plus, South America, today has the opportunity for significant growth, yet they still lie in their cesspool of degeneracy and corruption, while having better circumstances than Ireland but throwing it away.
I don't give a fuck, also south america is similar to many communist countries in the sense that it has a horrible government and culture that forces people into degeneracy and you can see this in many different countries that are unstable no matter what reason it is because people eventually get used to this lifestyle and promote it as something normal because of these extended periods of instability that happen common enough for most generations to experience it.
we shouldn't create attractive and genetically fit people but we should be adapting our bodies to modern lifestyles maybe
Her argument is cage beacuse ireland has had independence for less time then all of south america
This is why i dont get when people say "Never mix"
Its more of a cultural thing since south america is a mix of random shit thrown together thats had no time to really actualize
"no time to really actualise" has to be the most retarded cope i ever heard
Yeah honestly its beyond saving at this point and its clear that a lot of people living there don't want to change
Good that you can understand that
They had potential but they don't want to change and they just accept it as life
ill send links for u to do your own research of the complex and precarious history of Ireland
By the way I'm not saying TikTok is a good source of information, the video is of an Irish singer explaining what happened if you want to give it a listen.
And the second video just sort of gives u a small idea about the early 1900's of Ireland.
"English rule for hundreds of years that erased our culture and language almost completely, killed our people, fueled famines, incited violence across the island as a whole, spread a toxic image of our people that resulted in Irish people being discriminated against globally with some places still having a very negative ...21 Mar 2023"
British rule in Ireland - Wikipedia
so before you try educate me on the atrocities committed by the English on my country, take some time to know what you're talking about before speaking.
yeah MISTAKEN would be a fucking understatement pal. We were made a fucking mockery of and still are left with the shreds that remains of Ireland now. I'm lucky enough to be one of the small 30,000 people that speak my native language and we have no other to blame than the English conquerors for that. We were paid off to not teach our children Irish. We were victim to extreme murder and brutality up until just about 30 years ago with the troubles in the north. My own parents had their cars blown up. People in my family died to brits, but im not gonna sit here and huff and puff and throw a strop about it. Crying about how shit your country is because it got conquered by a nation stronger than yours won't do anything.
What went on in South America is not even comparable to what went on in Ireland. End of discussion on that.
I find this laughable that you haven't even bothered to look into what REALLY happened during the famine, which is exactly what I have highlighted. You hear all this about potatoes and that's all we eat because that is all we COULD eat. Every last other plant and food source of livestock was taken away from us and exported out for profit by the English.
the thing is that these were already established european countries so they had a major head start, the point about ireland being english speaking was less a full point and more of a little perk that is in your favour, the main thing was the attractive location of europe and the helping hand given to ireland at times by the eec/eu
south americans generally didn't have any formal education, and the few universities that were set up were for elites and elites only, any education they experienced was just to maintain colonial structure
Here's some proof that race DOES actually impact IQ:
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Then there was an argument proposed that the latter had lower IQ due to poverty and lack of education.
So there was a study done that was where black children were adopted into white families, given all the education the same as their white "siblings" and yet the blacks still had a lower IQ with being raised in THE EXACT SAME conditions and given the EXACT SAME opportunities.
Here's this study it's actually very interesting, you should give it a read.
Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study - Wikipedia
the last argument i have that doesn't really relate to any points here but i think is worth noting is argentina, that country is white asf - i dont even know if there are any black people there and the people have heavy german and italian ancestry, yet they're just as cooked as any other south american country, and i think it just goes back to my point in an earlier post about south america basically having shit tier rng with the people who came into power, brutal luckpill
) had basically hit its limit, but i did promise you a good response and you were excited for it so i couldnt disappoint,
fuark i didnt finishi wont be replying to anything listed above, based simply on the fact that it would be ridiculous for me to try argue with or downplay irish history to an irish person, you for sure know more about the topic than i ever could
only thing i'll disagree with is that south america didn't have it at least as bad as ireland, south americans were massacred not only by the diseases brought by settlers, but also actual violence, forced labour/legalised slavery and slave trade of the people as well as the destruction and erasure of most indigenous cultures and religions
both terrible histories, but sadly i dont know enough about colonialist south america to compare it ireland
the thing is that these were already established european countries so they had a major head start, the point about ireland being english speaking was less a full point and more of a little perk that is in your favour, the main thing was the attractive location of europe and the helping hand given to ireland at times by the eec/eu
you can also see the power of being in europe when you look at many eastern european countries post soviet union received funding and guidance from the eu to help them get on their feet, basically being based in europe is more or less a guaranteed chance at being integrated as a competent country
south americans generally didn't have any formal education, and the few universities that were set up were for elites and elites only, any education they experienced was just to maintain colonial structure
compared to ireland which although was heavily restricted for catholics (which was most of the population in fairness) the education system was still intended to educate (although at the cost of loss of culture)
the last argument i have that doesn't really relate to any points here but i think is worth noting is argentina, that country is white asf - i dont even know if there are any black people there and the people have heavy german and italian ancestry, yet they're just as cooked as any other south american country, and i think it just goes back to my point in an earlier post about south america basically having shit tier rng with the people who came into power, brutal luckpill
honestly tho i tap out, i mentally checked out last night when it got to a point that my knowledge (both of ireland AND south america
thoughts on my arguments?
also do you want to know the real reason why irelands economy is so good?
This is basically you putting your hands up and admitting you don't know much about real Irish history masked as humility. If you're confident enough to weigh Ireland against South America, you're clearly already engaging with Irish history.
honestly tho i tap out, i mentally checked out last night when it got to a point that my knowledge (both of ireland AND south america
thoughts on my arguments?
also do you want to know the real reason why irelands economy is so good?
i think people that deeply care for it have too much time on their hands
or perhaps you’d believe i’m biased because i’m from central america and have generations of mixing with white, black, native and not pure like you guys?
again, ireland did come up from a shit position, but i think the perceived whiteness of the irish had a very large part to play (dont worry i didnt dnr those pics) at first the irish were definitely stereotyped - this is a fact - but its also true that over time irish identity came to be accepted as white more and more, if im not mistaken the main problem between the irish and other countries was just religion, and the hateful caricatures were initially weaponised by the british in order to destroy the credibilty of your catholic beliefs, so once that era of L protestantism ended, people came to see the irish more humanely much quicker
in this situation i will admittedly dnr the last two pics since im a firm believer that location impacts iq and if anything they just further prove my point (as for example in the second pic, us blacks have a much higher iq than nigerians and they also live in a better area)Here's some proof that race DOES actually impact IQ:
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Then there was an argument proposed that the latter had lower IQ due to poverty and lack of education.
So there was a study done that was where black children were adopted into white families, given all the education the same as their white "siblings" and yet the blacks still had a lower IQ with being raised in THE EXACT SAME conditions and given the EXACT SAME opportunities.
Here's this study it's actually very interesting, you should give it a read.
Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study - Wikipedia
She was barely active when cat joined....
i recognize/remember cat, i had conversations with them
tbf there are some points i could counter here and there but like i said im done for now i cba
ive heard stories of your greatnessi recognize/remember cat, i had conversations with them
i left shorty after they joined tho
idk its just that ive only heard stories of pompompurinos aura
what an honor…
