eye area improvement (15 M)

[astroslik]

how can i improve my eye area? (no surgerys)

 

[ponyboy]

Latisse

 

[Pearex]

how can i improve my eye area? (no surgerys)

Dye your eyebrows and eyelashes when it comes to under-eye bags, this could be due to thyroid, kidney, or heart problems. Naturally, there are very few things you can do apply a cold spoon twice a day, morning and evening sleep on your back and place your pillow slightly higher. Do not smoke, do not consume alcohol and drink plenty of water.

 

[ponyboy]

this could be due to thyroid, kidney, or heart problems

Its very clearly due to recessed infras, like most of the time, and in the other times its shit fat pads or collagen, other explanations are so not likely that theyre not even worth taking into consideration

Op you can cope with pdrn for the discoloration but to remove the issue an implant would be needed

 

[Pearex]

Its very clearly due to recessed infras, like most of the time, and in the other times its shit fat pads or collagen, other explanations are so not likely that theyre not even worth taking into consideration

Op you can cope with pdrn for the discoloration but to remove the issue an implant would be needed

If you reread the title, you can see that the user wants a non-surgical method.

 

[Pearex]

diğer açıklamalar o kadar düşük olasılıklı ki dikkate alınmaz, çalışmaya bile değmez.

Saying "other causes are not worth considering" is not entirely accurate from a medical standpoint. Lymphatic drainage disorder/edema, allergic causes, pigmentation, and muscle (orbicularis oculi) structure are less common but can be indicative factors in some patients.

 

[ponyboy]

If you reread the title, you can see that the user wants a non-surgical method.

Which is why the pdrn is mentioned

Saying "other causes are not worth considering" is not entirely accurate from a medical standpoint. Lymphatic drainage disorder/edema, allergic causes, pigmentation, and muscle (orbicularis oculi) structure are less common but can be indicative factors in some patients.

This is not a medical issue, its an aestetic one. We do not follow medical guidelines and dont have to check for rare 1 in a million disorders just to be sure not can we even check, so you fan either give the most likely answer by miles or the very very far fetched one, bloating can be a symptom of some things sure but the problem is obviously not bloating, its actually more the lack of it. And pigmentation from inflammation foesnt look like hers as hers is obviously lack of stfucture and is selectively darker.

So even if she did have those issues it wouldnt the cause her problem, nor really meaningfully change it

 

[Pearex]

Which is why the pdrn is mentioned

This is not a medical issue, its an aestetic one. We do not follow medical guidelines and dont have to check for rare 1 in a million disorders just to be sure not can we even check, so you fan either give the most likely answer by miles or the very very far fetched one, bloating can be a symptom of some things sure but the problem is obviously not bloating, its actually more the lack of it. And pigmentation from inflammation foesnt look like hers as hers is obviously lack of stfucture and is selectively darker.

So even if she did have those issues it wouldnt the cause her problem, nor really meaningfully change it

This is not a medical issue but an aesthetic one. We are not following medical guidelines here, nor are we required to rule out extremely rare, one-in-a-million conditions. In practice, those possibilities are neither relevant nor realistically assessable in an aesthetic context, and referring to them only leads to speculative and unhelpful explanations.
While swelling can indeed be a sign of certain conditions, the issue here is clearly not swelling. On the contrary, the problem is the absence of volume and structural support. The appearance is caused by infraorbital hollowing rather than edema.
Likewise, inflammatory or post-inflammatory pigmentation does not present this way. Such pigmentation is typically diffuse and superficial, whereas this discoloration is selective, anatomically defined, and clearly secondary to structural deficiency. The darker appearance results from volume loss, increased visibility of underlying vasculature, and light-shadow effects—not from increased melanin or inflammation.
In short, this is a structural and anatomical deficiency, not a pathological process, and it should be evaluated and addressed as such within an aesthetic framework. Please don't give people misinformation. I'm a medical student And many of the things you wrote about are outside the realm of medicine.

 

[larpgod]

how can i improve my eye area? (no surgerys)

I'd take 2.5 mg oral minoxidil daily until I get the desired results, and I would also apply Volufuline to the under-eyes.

 

[Pearex]

Which is why the pdrn is mentioned

PDRN is a "supportive" treatment for under-eye areas; it is not a structural solution.

 

[ponyboy]

PDRN is a "supportive" treatment for under-eye areas; it is not a structural solution.

Which is why i said its a cope for discoloration

This is not a medical issue but an aesthetic one. We are not following medical guidelines here, nor are we required to rule out extremely rare, one-in-a-million conditions. In practice, those possibilities are neither relevant nor realistically assessable in an aesthetic context, and referring to them only leads to speculative and unhelpful explanations.
While swelling can indeed be a sign of certain conditions, the issue here is clearly not swelling. On the contrary, the problem is the absence of volume and structural support. The appearance is caused by infraorbital hollowing rather than edema.
Likewise, inflammatory or post-inflammatory pigmentation does not present this way. Such pigmentation is typically diffuse and superficial, whereas this discoloration is selective, anatomically defined, and clearly secondary to structural deficiency. The darker appearance results from volume loss, increased visibility of underlying vasculature, and light-shadow effects—not from increased melanin or inflammation.
In short, this is a structural and anatomical deficiency, not a pathological process, and it should be evaluated and addressed as such within an aesthetic framework. Please don't give people misinformation. I'm a medical student And many of the things you wrote about are outside the realm of medicine.

This is exactly what i said so why were you yapping about thyroid and kidneys and all sorts

 

[Pearex]

Which is why i said its a cope for discoloration

This is exactly what i said so why were you yapping about thyroid and kidneys and all sorts

I didn't definitively say it was a thyroid or kidney problem; I just said it was a possibility, and neither you nor I can help with that. It would be better if she saw a doctor because the eye is a very complex issue, and diagnosing it from a picture is difficult.

 

[Pearex]

Which is why i said its a cope for discoloration

He will come back after he leaves.

 

[ponyboy]

I didn't definitively say it was a thyroid or kidney problem; I just said it was a possibility, and neither you nor I can help with that. It would be better if she saw a doctor because the eye is a very complex issue, and diagnosing it from a picture is difficult.

Like you said previously you can easily tell its a structural issue. Meaning that its not a thyroid one

 

[Pearex]

Like you said previously you can easily tell its a structural issue. Meaning that its not a thyroid one

It could be due to insufficient bone support, but there's still no harm in doing a thyroid and kidneys analysis.

 

[Pearex]

Which is why i said its a cope for discoloration

This is exactly what i said so why were you yapping about thyroid and kidneys and all sorts

Since the skin is still in the development stage, the risk of reactions and sensitivity may be relatively high.
There is insufficient information available regarding long-term results.PDRN should not be viewed as a standalone solution but rather as a combination therapy.
PDRN + laser/radiofrequency
This way, the results are more natural and more permanent.Filler → then PDRN (build structure, improve quality)PDRN + PRP In short, PDRN alone is not effective.

 

[ponyboy]

It could be due to insufficient bone support, but there's still no harm in doing a thyroid and kidneys analysis.

The appearance is caused by infraorbital hollowing rather than edema.
Likewise, inflammatory or post-inflammatory pigmentation does not present this way.

Which one is it? Is it like you previously claimed that it is caused by infraorbital hollowing and that fact is vert clear? and you are just throwing in a thyroid check recommendation as an irrelevant suggestion as it has nothing to do with these issues, should we take a look at her toe health while were at it? Should i just go off track recommend a spleen scan as if its releveant to the issue at hand in the slightest

So bottom line is either its very clearly a structural issue or thats not the obvious cause, either way youd either be contradicting yourself or just look stupid to even bring up thyroid in the first place

Filler → then PDRN (build structure, improve quality)PDRN + PRP In short, PDRN alone is not effective.

Filler is a horrible sollution, undereyes are a horrible are too inject filler and especially when the bone deficiency is so severe. Its like asking to get r***d by migration

But laser is a good idea if op can afford it.

 

[Pearex]

Which one is it? Is it like you previously claimed that it is caused by infraorbital hollowing and that fact is vert clear? and you are just throwing in a thyroid check recommendation as an irrelevant suggestion as it has nothing to do with these issues, should we take a look at her toe health while were at it? Should i just go off track recommend a spleen scan as if its releveant to the issue at hand in the slightest

So bottom line is either its very clearly a structural issue or thats not the obvious cause, either way youd either be contradicting yourself or just look stupid to even bring up thyroid in the first place

This condition is either entirely related to a structural issue, or it is not. If under-eye hollowness is indeed the primary cause, additional checks like thyroid tests can only be considered as a cautious measure; however, they do not explain the root problem. I did not state that thyroid was the primary cause, anyway. On the other hand, if the problem is not structural, then the explanation for the under-eye hollowness cannot be correct, and thyroid function becomes a factor that truly needs to be considered. In both cases, bringing up thyroid testing as a solution is not an unreasonable generalization; however, presenting it as the sole solution without clarifying the actual problem would be misleading, and it would be best to consult a specialist in this regard.

 

[Pearex]

Filler is a horrible sollution, undereyes are a horrible are too inject filler and especially when the bone deficiency is so severe. Its like asking to get r***d by migration

But laser is a good idea if op can afford it

Applying filler to the under-eye area correctly can be risky, especially in individuals with insufficient bone structure, because the filler may shift downward over time due to gravity and tissue movement, making the sunken appearance even more pronounced. This can sometimes lead to a problem known as "drooping" or "sagging."
Surgery (blepharoplasty or more advanced surgical techniques) may be costly, but it provides a permanent and natural solution. Laser treatments, on the other hand, can be a good non-surgical option for rejuvenating the skin and reducing fine lines and discoloration. Since the skin under the eyes is thin and sensitive, laser treatment is a more controlled and safe method compared to filler injections. But since the patient wants a non-surgical method, none of this will be of any use.

 

[ponyboy]

This condition is either entirely related to a structural issue, or it is not. If under-eye hollowness is indeed the primary cause, additional checks like thyroid tests can only be considered as a cautious measure; however, they do not explain the root problem. I did not state that thyroid was the primary cause, anyway. On the other hand, if the problem is not structural, then the explanation for the under-eye hollowness cannot be correct, and thyroid function becomes a factor that truly needs to be considered. In both cases, bringing up thyroid testing as a solution is not an unreasonable generalization; however, presenting it as the sole solution without clarifying the actual problem would be misleading, and it would be best to consult a specialist in this regard.

This is just not a symptom of thyroid disease, the lack of forward growth is something thats mainly genetic and gets influnced by breathing habits, this type along with pretty much every other aestetic bone issue is not related to thyroid in the slightest

You have no idea what youre talking about

 

[Pearex]

This is just not a symptom of thyroid disease, the lack of forward growth is something thats mainly genetic and gets influnced by breathing habits, this type along with pretty much every other aestetic bone issue is not related to thyroid in the slightest

You have no idea what youre talking about

You were talking about ptosis before, and now you're talking about forward facial growth... These are completely different issues and have different relationships with the thyroid; therefore, it is not correct to treat them the same way. Actually, you don't know what you're talking about, my friend. Why are we even arguing right now?

 

[thekingsapphire]

how can i improve my eye area? (no surgerys)

start with growing out your eyelashes and thickening your eyebrows first it'll help

 

[ponyboy]

You were talking about ptosis before, and now you're talking about forward facial growth... These are completely different issues and have different relationships with the thyroid; therefore, it is not correct to treat them the same way. Actually, you don't know what you're talking about, my friend. Why are we even arguing right now?

Ptosis as a general topic was not the context of the message i directly responded to in this, or in that post i responded to was about where the root of the problem lies, im clearly pointing out how youre completely clueless as it IS NOT THE THYROID AND VERY EASY TO TELL ITS A STRYCTURAL ISSUE

And therefore relationship with the thyroid is highly irrelevant here as the root very very clearly is structural. You have no idea how to evalute what the root issue is and instead bring up irrelevant shit, its like you see a guy with a choped up arm and check if the root of his pain is a headache

And the obly reason youre giving this bullshit advise is because you no idea how it works, whats common or how to identify shit, if you were not a r****d you wouldve been able to tell its structural in the first place

Fucking r****d, going first on my ignore list

 

[Spuffy]

cool piercing

 

[Pearex]

Ptosis was not the context of the message i directly responded to in this, or in that post i responded to was about where the root of the problem lies, im clearly pointing out how youre completely clueless as it IS NOT THE THYROID AND VERY EASY TO TELL ITS A STRYCTURAL ISSUE

And therefore relationship with the thyroid is highly irrelevant here as the root very very clearly is structural. You have no idea how to evalute what the root issue is and instead bring up irrelevant shit, its like you see a guy with a choped up arm and check if the root of his pain is a headache

Fucking r****d, going first on my ignore list

I presented you with the literature to illustrate the thyroid-ptosis relationship, but these are rare cases and not relevant to the general population. If the problem is structural, then yes, this literature would be irrelevant. So, in this particular case, I acknowledge that the origin is structural; the thyroid's influence is not very significant here. Finally, you're right about one thing, that's what I was waiting for.

Fucking r****d, going first on my ignore list

First, I reported this insult to the authorities.

 

[ponyboy]

presented you with the literature to illustrate the thyroid-ptosis relationship, but these are rare cases and not relevant to the general population

Finally you admit thats it rare and not something that happens to 5/10men like youve previously claimed.

the thyroid's influence is not very significant here. Finally, you're right about one thing, that's what I was waiting for.

I was right about the central topic,not just "one thing", just admit youre an unknowledgeable idiot from the begginig next time

 

[Pearex]

Finally you admit thats it rare and not something that happens to 5/10men like youve previously claimed.

I was right about the central topic,not just "one thing", just admit youre an unknowledgeable idiot from the begginig next time

There’s no need for insults. I already acknowledged that the root issue in this specific case is structural, which was your central point. My earlier comments were about whether thyroid–ptosis associations exist in general, not about diagnosing this case. And I agree that 5 out of 10 people have ptosis, and I encounter it a lot in real life. Those are two different discussions. If you can’t separate context from mechanism, there’s no productive debate to be had. If you need to resort to insults after your point was acknowledged, that says more about you than me. I’m done here.

 

[astroslik]

cool piercing

thanks