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so, to answer the question... it's complicated.

argentina-argentina-vs-saudi-arabia.gif


jk jk, im not giving that cope fencesitting answer jfl

personally, after many years of travelling the globe, intense study of the ancient greek pantheons' writings and observing many different modern worldviews i have come to the conclusion that liking femboys is gay.

allow me to elaborate.

cr7-siu.gif


now you might personally have your own take on whether liking femboys as a guy is gay or straight, but allow me to present this one hypothetical which was presented to me by the tiktoker BRS, which will reveal what you truly think.

imagine you have a guy. this guy likes to take it up the ass, but only from women. fingers? he'd do it. whole hand? he'd do it. phallic objects? he'd do it. but only if it's a woman doing this stuff. if it was another guy trying to do it he'd be extremely turned off and would be softer than Mota's mums tits.

ishowspeed-wow.gif


now this is where we have the divulging philosophies.

if you're like me, then you believe that we can't reliably call the guy gay. as much as the things that turn him on naturally feel homosexual asf, you can't ignore that the guy is fixated on these things being done to him by a woman, never a man. therefore he is definitively straight, no matter how much he gets pegged.

pff-tkt.gif


on the flip side, some of you may think that the guy is somewhat gay, as the action of wanting things up the butt as a man is inherently homosexual, regardless of whoever's sticking shit up the guy's butt...

however this activates my trap card...

cristiano-ronaldo-ronaldo.gif
yugioh-redeyes.gif


if you think the guy is gay because even wanting to get fucked by a woman is gay...

then you can't say guys who wanna crack femboys are gay, as it's the exact same situation in reverse. in this situation they want to crack an effeminate person - which is exactly what straight guys want to do. its just that the effeminate person they want to crack is only effeminate in presentation, not gender. however since you think the guy in the pegging example is gay due to the sexual/gender dynamics, guys who like femboys can't be gay as their sexual dynamic is the same as a straight guy.

ronaldo-al-nassr-cristiano-ronaldo.gif


if you're like me and think the pegging n***a is technically straight, then you also have to believe femboys are gay, as no matter how "heterosexual" the sexual dynamic is, we acknowledge that they want to do these things to another guy. that therefore makes femboys gay.

ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right.gif


so there you go. i ended the debate over whether femboys are gay or not. in my opinion? yes they are.

tagging n*****s who need to hear this gospel:
 
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so, to answer the question... it's complicated.

argentina-argentina-vs-saudi-arabia.gif


jk jk, im not giving that cope fencesitting answer jfl

personally, after many years of travelling the globe, intense study of the ancient greek pantheons' writings and observing many different modern worldviews i have come to the conclusion that liking femboys is gay.

allow me to elaborate.

cr7-siu.gif


now you might personally have your own take on whether liking femboys as a guy is gay or straight, but allow me to present this one hypothetical which was presented to me by the tiktoker BRS, which will reveal what you truly think.

imagine you have a guy. this guy likes to take it up the ass, but only from women. fingers? he'd do it. whole hand? he'd do it. phallic objects? he'd do it. but only if it's a woman doing this stuff. if it was another guy trying to do it he'd be extremely turned off and would be softer than Mota's mums tits.

ishowspeed-wow.gif


now this is where we have the divulging philosophies.

if you're like me, then you believe that we can't reliably call the guy gay. as much as the things that turn him on naturally feel homosexual asf, you can't ignore that the guy is fixated on these things being done to him by a woman, never a man. therefore he is definitively straight, no matter how much he gets pegged.

pff-tkt.gif


on the flip side, some of you may think that the guy is somewhat gay, as the action of wanting things up the butt as a man is inherently homosexual, regardless of whoever's sticking shit up the guy's butt...

however this activates my trap card...

cristiano-ronaldo-ronaldo.gif
yugioh-redeyes.gif


if you think the guy is gay because even wanting to get fucked by a woman is gay...

then you can't say guys who wanna crack femboys are gay, as it's the exact same situation in reverse. in this situation they want to crack an effeminate person - which is exactly what straight guys want to do. its just that the effeminate person they want to crack is only effeminate in presentation, not gender. however since you think the guy in the pegging example is gay due to the sexual/gender dynamics, guys who like femboys can't be gay as their sexual dynamic is the same as a straight guy.

ronaldo-al-nassr-cristiano-ronaldo.gif


if you're like me and think the pegging n***a is technically straight, then you also have to believe femboys are gay, as no matter how "heterosexual" the sexual dynamic is, we acknowledge that they want to do these things to another guy. that therefore makes femboys gay.

ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right.gif


so there you go. i ended the debate over whether femboys are gay or not. in my opinion? yes they are.

doesn't change that femboys are baddies tho
ishowspeed-ishowspeed-reaction.gif

tagging n*****s who need to hear this gospel:
Yup, water. Sometimes n*****s should just accept that they're in the closet and move on.
 
Think this n***a trying to convince himself as much as the others of this chit
 
so, to answer the question... it's complicated.

argentina-argentina-vs-saudi-arabia.gif


jk jk, im not giving that cope fencesitting answer jfl

personally, after many years of travelling the globe, intense study of the ancient greek pantheons' writings and observing many different modern worldviews i have come to the conclusion that liking femboys is gay.

allow me to elaborate.

cr7-siu.gif


now you might personally have your own take on whether liking femboys as a guy is gay or straight, but allow me to present this one hypothetical which was presented to me by the tiktoker BRS, which will reveal what you truly think.

imagine you have a guy. this guy likes to take it up the ass, but only from women. fingers? he'd do it. whole hand? he'd do it. phallic objects? he'd do it. but only if it's a woman doing this stuff. if it was another guy trying to do it he'd be extremely turned off and would be softer than Mota's mums tits.

ishowspeed-wow.gif


now this is where we have the divulging philosophies.

if you're like me, then you believe that we can't reliably call the guy gay. as much as the things that turn him on naturally feel homosexual asf, you can't ignore that the guy is fixated on these things being done to him by a woman, never a man. therefore he is definitively straight, no matter how much he gets pegged.

pff-tkt.gif


on the flip side, some of you may think that the guy is somewhat gay, as the action of wanting things up the butt as a man is inherently homosexual, regardless of whoever's sticking shit up the guy's butt...

however this activates my trap card...

cristiano-ronaldo-ronaldo.gif
yugioh-redeyes.gif


if you think the guy is gay because even wanting to get fucked by a woman is gay...

then you can't say guys who wanna crack femboys are gay, as it's the exact same situation in reverse. in this situation they want to crack an effeminate person - which is exactly what straight guys want to do. its just that the effeminate person they want to crack is only effeminate in presentation, not gender. however since you think the guy in the pegging example is gay due to the sexual/gender dynamics, guys who like femboys can't be gay as their sexual dynamic is the same as a straight guy.

ronaldo-al-nassr-cristiano-ronaldo.gif


if you're like me and think the pegging n***a is technically straight, then you also have to believe femboys are gay, as no matter how "heterosexual" the sexual dynamic is, we acknowledge that they want to do these things to another guy. that therefore makes femboys gay.

ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right.gif


so there you go. i ended the debate over whether femboys are gay or not. in my opinion? yes they are.

doesn't change that femboys are baddies tho
ishowspeed-ishowspeed-reaction.gif

tagging n*****s who need to hear this gospel:
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so, to answer the question... it's complicated.

argentina-argentina-vs-saudi-arabia.gif


jk jk, im not giving that cope fencesitting answer jfl

personally, after many years of travelling the globe, intense study of the ancient greek pantheons' writings and observing many different modern worldviews i have come to the conclusion that liking femboys is gay.

allow me to elaborate.

cr7-siu.gif


now you might personally have your own take on whether liking femboys as a guy is gay or straight, but allow me to present this one hypothetical which was presented to me by the tiktoker BRS, which will reveal what you truly think.

imagine you have a guy. this guy likes to take it up the ass, but only from women. fingers? he'd do it. whole hand? he'd do it. phallic objects? he'd do it. but only if it's a woman doing this stuff. if it was another guy trying to do it he'd be extremely turned off and would be softer than Mota's mums tits.

ishowspeed-wow.gif


now this is where we have the divulging philosophies.

if you're like me, then you believe that we can't reliably call the guy gay. as much as the things that turn him on naturally feel homosexual asf, you can't ignore that the guy is fixated on these things being done to him by a woman, never a man. therefore he is definitively straight, no matter how much he gets pegged.

pff-tkt.gif


on the flip side, some of you may think that the guy is somewhat gay, as the action of wanting things up the butt as a man is inherently homosexual, regardless of whoever's sticking shit up the guy's butt...

however this activates my trap card...

cristiano-ronaldo-ronaldo.gif
yugioh-redeyes.gif


if you think the guy is gay because even wanting to get fucked by a woman is gay...

then you can't say guys who wanna crack femboys are gay, as it's the exact same situation in reverse. in this situation they want to crack an effeminate person - which is exactly what straight guys want to do. its just that the effeminate person they want to crack is only effeminate in presentation, not gender. however since you think the guy in the pegging example is gay due to the sexual/gender dynamics, guys who like femboys can't be gay as their sexual dynamic is the same as a straight guy.

ronaldo-al-nassr-cristiano-ronaldo.gif


if you're like me and think the pegging n***a is technically straight, then you also have to believe femboys are gay, as no matter how "heterosexual" the sexual dynamic is, we acknowledge that they want to do these things to another guy. that therefore makes femboys gay.

ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right.gif


so there you go. i ended the debate over whether femboys are gay or not. in my opinion? yes they are.

doesn't change that femboys are baddies tho
ishowspeed-ishowspeed-reaction.gif

tagging n*****s who need to hear this gospel:
Incredible analysis.
 
so, to answer the question... it's complicated.

argentina-argentina-vs-saudi-arabia.gif


jk jk, im not giving that cope fencesitting answer jfl

personally, after many years of travelling the globe, intense study of the ancient greek pantheons' writings and observing many different modern worldviews i have come to the conclusion that liking femboys is gay.

allow me to elaborate.

cr7-siu.gif


now you might personally have your own take on whether liking femboys as a guy is gay or straight, but allow me to present this one hypothetical which was presented to me by the tiktoker BRS, which will reveal what you truly think.

imagine you have a guy. this guy likes to take it up the ass, but only from women. fingers? he'd do it. whole hand? he'd do it. phallic objects? he'd do it. but only if it's a woman doing this stuff. if it was another guy trying to do it he'd be extremely turned off and would be softer than Mota's mums tits.

ishowspeed-wow.gif


now this is where we have the divulging philosophies.

if you're like me, then you believe that we can't reliably call the guy gay. as much as the things that turn him on naturally feel homosexual asf, you can't ignore that the guy is fixated on these things being done to him by a woman, never a man. therefore he is definitively straight, no matter how much he gets pegged.

pff-tkt.gif


on the flip side, some of you may think that the guy is somewhat gay, as the action of wanting things up the butt as a man is inherently homosexual, regardless of whoever's sticking shit up the guy's butt...

however this activates my trap card...

cristiano-ronaldo-ronaldo.gif
yugioh-redeyes.gif


if you think the guy is gay because even wanting to get fucked by a woman is gay...

then you can't say guys who wanna crack femboys are gay, as it's the exact same situation in reverse. in this situation they want to crack an effeminate person - which is exactly what straight guys want to do. its just that the effeminate person they want to crack is only effeminate in presentation, not gender. however since you think the guy in the pegging example is gay due to the sexual/gender dynamics, guys who like femboys can't be gay as their sexual dynamic is the same as a straight guy.

ronaldo-al-nassr-cristiano-ronaldo.gif


if you're like me and think the pegging n***a is technically straight, then you also have to believe femboys are gay, as no matter how "heterosexual" the sexual dynamic is, we acknowledge that they want to do these things to another guy. that therefore makes femboys gay.

ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right.gif


so there you go. i ended the debate over whether femboys are gay or not. in my opinion? yes they are.

doesn't change that femboys are baddies tho
ishowspeed-ishowspeed-reaction.gif

tagging n*****s who need to hear this gospel:
just leave the damn closet bro😭
 
so, to answer the question... it's complicated.

argentina-argentina-vs-saudi-arabia.gif


jk jk, im not giving that cope fencesitting answer jfl

personally, after many years of travelling the globe, intense study of the ancient greek pantheons' writings and observing many different modern worldviews i have come to the conclusion that liking femboys is gay.

allow me to elaborate.

cr7-siu.gif


now you might personally have your own take on whether liking femboys as a guy is gay or straight, but allow me to present this one hypothetical which was presented to me by the tiktoker BRS, which will reveal what you truly think.

imagine you have a guy. this guy likes to take it up the ass, but only from women. fingers? he'd do it. whole hand? he'd do it. phallic objects? he'd do it. but only if it's a woman doing this stuff. if it was another guy trying to do it he'd be extremely turned off and would be softer than Mota's mums tits.

ishowspeed-wow.gif


now this is where we have the divulging philosophies.

if you're like me, then you believe that we can't reliably call the guy gay. as much as the things that turn him on naturally feel homosexual asf, you can't ignore that the guy is fixated on these things being done to him by a woman, never a man. therefore he is definitively straight, no matter how much he gets pegged.

pff-tkt.gif


on the flip side, some of you may think that the guy is somewhat gay, as the action of wanting things up the butt as a man is inherently homosexual, regardless of whoever's sticking shit up the guy's butt...

however this activates my trap card...

cristiano-ronaldo-ronaldo.gif
yugioh-redeyes.gif


if you think the guy is gay because even wanting to get fucked by a woman is gay...

then you can't say guys who wanna crack femboys are gay, as it's the exact same situation in reverse. in this situation they want to crack an effeminate person - which is exactly what straight guys want to do. its just that the effeminate person they want to crack is only effeminate in presentation, not gender. however since you think the guy in the pegging example is gay due to the sexual/gender dynamics, guys who like femboys can't be gay as their sexual dynamic is the same as a straight guy.

ronaldo-al-nassr-cristiano-ronaldo.gif


if you're like me and think the pegging n***a is technically straight, then you also have to believe femboys are gay, as no matter how "heterosexual" the sexual dynamic is, we acknowledge that they want to do these things to another guy. that therefore makes femboys gay.

ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right.gif


so there you go. i ended the debate over whether femboys are gay or not. in my opinion? yes they are.

doesn't change that femboys are baddies tho
ishowspeed-ishowspeed-reaction.gif

tagging n*****s who need to hear this gospel:
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Although being a femboy is gay, you're not gay for fucking a femboy, if a lesbian fucked a straight man, that doesn't make her straight if its not repeated, even though a lesbian probably wouldn't fuck a man, there's a hypothetical chance of this happening, 2nd. A femboy is trying to look as feminine as possible, and men are naturally attracted to feminine features, so depending on how fem the femboy looks the debate could go both ways, but if you don't repeatedly fuck a femboy as a man and the femboy looks feminine enough, I suppose the "GSC" (Gay Standardized Chart) level would be lower than a less feminine looking one, and as you've Stated, you don't believe pegging is gay if a woman does it, so how can you say liking femboys is gay if the femininity of the femboy is what attracts you isn't that semi straight

In conclusion if you don't get fucked down by a femboy, looks feminine enough and isn't repeated, its not entirely gay.
 
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Although being a femboy is gay, you're not gay for fucking a femboy, if a lesbian fucked a straight man, that doesn't make her straight if its not repeated, even though a lesbian probably wouldn't fuck a man, there's a hypothetical chance of this happening, 2nd. A femboy is trying to look as feminine as possible, and men are naturally attracted to feminine features, so depending on how fem the femboy looks the debate could go both ways, but if you don't repeatedly fuck a femboy as a man and the femboy looks feminine enough, I suppose the "GSC" (Gay Standardized Chart) level would be lower than a less feminine looking one, and as you've Stated, you don't believe pegging is gay if a woman does it, so how can you say liking femboys is gay if the femininity of the femboy is what attracts you isn't that semi straight

In conclusion if you don't get fucked down by a femboy, looks feminine enough and isn't repeated, its not entirely gay.

 
so, to answer the question... it's complicated.

argentina-argentina-vs-saudi-arabia.gif


jk jk, im not giving that cope fencesitting answer jfl

personally, after many years of travelling the globe, intense study of the ancient greek pantheons' writings and observing many different modern worldviews i have come to the conclusion that liking femboys is gay.

allow me to elaborate.

cr7-siu.gif


now you might personally have your own take on whether liking femboys as a guy is gay or straight, but allow me to present this one hypothetical which was presented to me by the tiktoker BRS, which will reveal what you truly think.

imagine you have a guy. this guy likes to take it up the ass, but only from women. fingers? he'd do it. whole hand? he'd do it. phallic objects? he'd do it. but only if it's a woman doing this stuff. if it was another guy trying to do it he'd be extremely turned off and would be softer than Mota's mums tits.

ishowspeed-wow.gif


now this is where we have the divulging philosophies.

if you're like me, then you believe that we can't reliably call the guy gay. as much as the things that turn him on naturally feel homosexual asf, you can't ignore that the guy is fixated on these things being done to him by a woman, never a man. therefore he is definitively straight, no matter how much he gets pegged.

pff-tkt.gif


on the flip side, some of you may think that the guy is somewhat gay, as the action of wanting things up the butt as a man is inherently homosexual, regardless of whoever's sticking shit up the guy's butt...

however this activates my trap card...

cristiano-ronaldo-ronaldo.gif
yugioh-redeyes.gif


if you think the guy is gay because even wanting to get fucked by a woman is gay...

then you can't say guys who wanna crack femboys are gay, as it's the exact same situation in reverse. in this situation they want to crack an effeminate person - which is exactly what straight guys want to do. its just that the effeminate person they want to crack is only effeminate in presentation, not gender. however since you think the guy in the pegging example is gay due to the sexual/gender dynamics, guys who like femboys can't be gay as their sexual dynamic is the same as a straight guy.

ronaldo-al-nassr-cristiano-ronaldo.gif


if you're like me and think the pegging n***a is technically straight, then you also have to believe femboys are gay, as no matter how "heterosexual" the sexual dynamic is, we acknowledge that they want to do these things to another guy. that therefore makes femboys gay.

ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right.gif


so there you go. i ended the debate over whether femboys are gay or not. in my opinion? yes they are.

tagging n*****s who need to hear this gospel:
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Although being a femboy is gay, you're not gay for fucking a femboy, if a lesbian fucked a straight man, that doesn't make her straight if its not repeated, even though a lesbian probably wouldn't fuck a man, there's a hypothetical chance of this happening, 2nd. A femboy is trying to look as feminine as possible, and men are naturally attracted to feminine features, so depending on how fem the femboy looks the debate could go both ways, but if you don't repeatedly fuck a femboy as a man and the femboy looks feminine enough, I suppose the "GSC" (Gay Standardized Chart) level would be lower than a less feminine looking one, and as you've Stated, you don't believe pegging is gay if a woman does it, so how can you say liking femboys is gay if the femininity of the femboy is what attracts you isn't that semi straight

In conclusion if you don't get fucked down by a femboy, looks feminine enough and isn't repeated, its not entirely gay.
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thats an interesting counter argument you raise, however i believe its flawed...

Although being a femboy is gay
i would actually say being a femboy isn't inherently gay, in the same way being an athlete isn't straight. the overwhelming majority of people who play mainstream sports are straight, however that doesn't make sports a "straight" thing. in the same way the overwhelming majority of femboys are gay, but that still doesn't make a person gay for simply being a femboy, as they could be attracted to women.

if a lesbian fucked a straight man, that doesn't make her straight if its not repeated, even though a lesbian probably wouldn't fuck a man, there's a hypothetical chance of this happening
although i see your point, i have to admit this is a ridiculous proposition. a woman who is truly lesbian would never have sex with a man as they are only sexually attracted to women (hence why they identify as lesbian). a lesbian would only consensually sleep with a man if they were attracted to him, which would make them bisexual. it doesn't matter if thats the one man in the world they're attracted to, they're still sexually attracted to both women and this guy, making them bi.

A femboy is trying to look as feminine as possible, and men are naturally attracted to feminine features, so depending on how fem the femboy looks the debate could go both ways, but if you don't repeatedly fuck a femboy as a man and the femboy looks feminine enough, I suppose the "GSC" (Gay Standardized Chart) level would be lower than a less feminine looking one, and as you've Stated, you don't believe pegging is gay if a woman does it, so how can you say liking femboys is gay if the femininity of the femboy is what attracts you isn't that semi straight
i see what you're saying, i really do. but no matter how feminine the femboy looks, they are femboy. if the mere idea that the femboy is a male doesn't turn the guy off, then he has to accept that he's gay, since he would fuck men, just extremely feminine presenting ones. but it doesn't change that they're men.

i also disagree with your theory that doing it once makes it less gay. if you do it (and enjoy it) then you are gay. if you did it and didn't enjoy it, then you still committed a gay action, but its unlikely that you're gay.

i do agree with your implementation of a "GSC" since i think gayness is relative however its exactly as advertised, a gay standardized chart. therefore anything on the GSC must be considered gay, even if its less gay than other things.

i concede that the femininity of femboys is inherently associated with straightness, but just like with pegging no matter how straight or gay the action seems, you have to focus on the genders being involved. a guy getting cracked by a girl with a strap-on is male-female = straight. if you realise getting pegged is still straight, then this makes femboys gay as a guy cracking a femboy is still male-male. it feels backwards but its true.

you can believe that liking femboys is not gay, but then you have to concede that pegging is gay.

you made some good points, but im afraid my philosophy is flawless

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thats an interesting counter argument you raise, however i believe its flawed...


i would actually say being a femboy isn't inherently gay, in the same way being an athlete isn't straight. the overwhelming majority of people who play mainstream sports are straight, however that doesn't make sports a "straight" thing. in the same way the overwhelming majority of femboys are gay, but that still doesn't make a person gay for simply being a femboy, as they could be attracted to women.


although i see your point, i have to admit this is a ridiculous proposition. a woman who is truly lesbian would never have sex with a man as they are only sexually attracted to women (hence why they identify as lesbian). a lesbian would only consensually sleep with a man if they were attracted to him, which would make them bisexual. it doesn't matter if thats the one man in the world they're attracted to, they're still sexually attracted to both women and this guy, making them bi.


i see what you're saying, i really do. but no matter how feminine the femboy looks, they are femboy. if the mere idea that the femboy is a male doesn't turn the guy off, then he has to accept that he's gay, since he would fuck men, just extremely feminine presenting ones. but it doesn't change that they're men.

i also disagree with your theory that doing it once makes it less gay. if you do it (and enjoy it) then you are gay. if you did it and didn't enjoy it, then you still committed a gay action, but its unlikely that you're gay.

i do agree with your implementation of a "GSC" since i think gayness is relative however its exactly as advertised, a gay standardized chart. therefore anything on the GSC must be considered gay, even if its less gay than other things.

i concede that the femininity of femboys is inherently associated with straightness, but just like with pegging no matter how straight or gay the action seems, you have to focus on the genders being involved. a guy getting cracked by a girl with a strap-on is male-female = straight. if you realise getting pegged is still straight, then this makes femboys gay as a guy cracking a femboy is still male-male. it feels backwards but its true.

you can believe that liking femboys is not gay, but then you have to concede that pegging is gay.

you made some good points, but im afraid my philosophy is flawless

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thats an interesting counter argument you raise, however i believe its flawed...


i would actually say being a femboy isn't inherently gay, in the same way being an athlete isn't straight. the overwhelming majority of people who play mainstream sports are straight, however that doesn't make sports a "straight" thing. in the same way the overwhelming majority of femboys are gay, but that still doesn't make a person gay for simply being a femboy, as they could be attracted to women.


although i see your point, i have to admit this is a ridiculous proposition. a woman who is truly lesbian would never have sex with a man as they are only sexually attracted to women (hence why they identify as lesbian). a lesbian would only consensually sleep with a man if they were attracted to him, which would make them bisexual. it doesn't matter if thats the one man in the world they're attracted to, they're still sexually attracted to both women and this guy, making them bi.


i see what you're saying, i really do. but no matter how feminine the femboy looks, they are femboy. if the mere idea that the femboy is a male doesn't turn the guy off, then he has to accept that he's gay, since he would fuck men, just extremely feminine presenting ones. but it doesn't change that they're men.

i also disagree with your theory that doing it once makes it less gay. if you do it (and enjoy it) then you are gay. if you did it and didn't enjoy it, then you still committed a gay action, but its unlikely that you're gay.

i do agree with your implementation of a "GSC" since i think gayness is relative however its exactly as advertised, a gay standardized chart. therefore anything on the GSC must be considered gay, even if its less gay than other things.

i concede that the femininity of femboys is inherently associated with straightness, but just like with pegging no matter how straight or gay the action seems, you have to focus on the genders being involved. a guy getting cracked by a girl with a strap-on is male-female = straight. if you realise getting pegged is still straight, then this makes femboys gay as a guy cracking a femboy is still male-male. it feels backwards but its true.

you can believe that liking femboys is not gay, but then you have to concede that pegging is gay.

you made some good points, but im afraid my philosophy is flawless

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i have read your take and as i must say, damn that was good, so one blunt later this is my counter-argument

if you do it (and enjoy it) then you are gay.
I could argue that depending on what made you enjoy it, its gay or not, if you like it because youre fucking a femboy, i can agree thats gay, but i could also argue that if the part you enjoyed was fucking someone in the ass, that is not gay since you didnt get the pleasure from the fact that its another man, and the fact that you said "a girl fucking a man in the ass is straight" is overall flawed, although you argued well to prove the point, i would have to say, if you enjoy getting fucked in the ass, that is still gay because a strap on is well, a synthetic dick, so the fact that you get turned on by a dick being inserted into you is kind of gay, as for you saying "since the genders are straight, the action is straight" if you were to ask people if getting fucked in the ass is gay, itll most likely be a yes, so if i were to make a GSC for each activity, there would have to be many variables in order to plot something high or low on the list, just like a PSL scale, you cant just look at a guys eye area and plot his entire face on a scale, thatll be retarded, so i have decided for the variables of this GSC to be

1.Gender (of course)
2.Action
3.Level of Enjoyment
4.Frequency of said action

As you couldve made a counter argument for "oh but 4 variables doesnt give a accurate estimation" for the sake of this argument this is based on arguments we both put up, so for this hypothetical scale we have to start off with the variables one by one

Femboy:

Male (instantly 8/10 GSC, for the reason of i can think of a few more activities thatll be gayer, for example participating in a gay orgy, thatll be more men, more dicks and indirectly more gayness, so i feel like that is a good 10/10 for this scale)

Fucking in the ass (-1 GSC, the reason for a deduction of GSC is because of the fact that most men like asses, and if you asked a man if theyd fuck someone in the ass, theyd probably say yes, so because of the fact that even though the gender involved adds alot of GSC, if you only care about the ass i can say its -1 GSC)

Level of Enjoyment (N/A, I personally havent fucked a femboy or been pegged so i cant give a opinion of the enjoyment, but for this argument we can either say you either really enjoyed it or really hated it)

(if you enjoyed it because of fucking, 0 GSC, the reason for this is because if you enjoyed fucking a ass, it could be arguable that it is a straight behaviour, since you enjoy fucking, But you can also debate that if gay people fuck, they will fuck in the ass, so i would say they cancel each other out, so currently the GSC for Femboy is 7/10)

(if you enjoyed it because its a femboy, +1 GSC, since you got turned on by a male, not the ass itself, which is a objective gay action)

(if you hated it because of the ass, now you might think this is the same as if you enjoyed it if its a femboy, but just because you didnt enjoy it doesnt mean you hated it, so if you hated the ass and mainly did it because femboy, thats gayer than just enjoying the femboy since despite hating the ass, you did it even more for the fact of femboy compared to the previous hypothesis so i would say +2 GSC, which is a 9 GSC activity... wow pretty gay right?)

(if you hated it because of the femboy, -2 GSC, athough this could be flawed, i feel like if you hated the fact it was a guy and fucked just for ass, itll be less gay and more degenerate, so if you hated that it was a male, that is arguably straight, so if you followed this path, its a 5 GSC activity)


Frequency of said action (N/A, but in this hypothetical argument, i feel like itll be safe saying both were one night stands, if so, femboy is +0-2 GSC or -2 GSC since i can admit, fucking a femboy is gay, but in comparison to getting pegged, i can say its less gay,

Now since i kinda added arousal reason into LOE, i can go over to being pegged

Female (1/10 GSC, reason i put 1 is because there is no true not gay activity, we can get close tho, as in here)
Getting Pegged (+4 GSC, and you might think, DAMN thats a LOT of GSC, but you gotta realise that getting taking dick is gay)

If you hated the fact that you got pegged: while i did say its -1 GSC for hating the femboy, i would have to say theres no way you can ungay the fact that you took a dildx, so for that reason id have to say 0 GSC, since you already got pegged, the gayness doesnt go up or down

If you liked the fact that you got pegged: +1 GSC, since you enjoyed the feeling of a dildx, youd like the feeling of a dick since a dildx is made to replicate one, which if you told a guy you liked taking dick, thats pretty gay... so currently we are at 6 GSC

Frequency of said action: The one night stand variable still stnads, so id say its a -1 GSC activity if you never do it again

So this would be a 5 GSC activity.


Now for the final Conclusion:

Fucked a femboy and liked femboy: 8/10, gay

Fucked a femboy and liked ass: 7/10

Fucked a femboy and hated femboy: 5/10

Fucked a femboy and hated ass: 9/10, super gay

Got pegged: 5/10
(since its a woman, now i cant say Got pegged and hated the fact that it was a guy, cause you see why, so the variables are limited)
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i have read your take and as i must say, damn that was good, so one blunt later this is my counter-argument


I could argue that depending on what made you enjoy it, its gay or not, if you like it because youre fucking a femboy, i can agree thats gay, but i could also argue that if the part you enjoyed was fucking someone in the ass, that is not gay since you didnt get the pleasure from the fact that its another man, and the fact that you said "a girl fucking a man in the ass is straight" is overall flawed, although you argued well to prove the point, i would have to say, if you enjoy getting fucked in the ass, that is still gay because a strap on is well, a synthetic dick, so the fact that you get turned on by a dick being inserted into you is kind of gay, as for you saying "since the genders are straight, the action is straight" if you were to ask people if getting fucked in the ass is gay, itll most likely be a yes, so if i were to make a GSC for each activity, there would have to be many variables in order to plot something high or low on the list, just like a PSL scale, you cant just look at a guys eye area and plot his entire face on a scale, thatll be retarded, so i have decided for the variables of this GSC to be

1.Gender (of course)
2.Action
3.Level of Enjoyment
4.Frequency of said action

As you couldve made a counter argument for "oh but 4 variables doesnt give a accurate estimation" for the sake of this argument this is based on arguments we both put up, so for this hypothetical scale we have to start off with the variables one by one

Femboy:

Male (instantly 8/10 GSC, for the reason of i can think of a few more activities thatll be gayer, for example participating in a gay orgy, thatll be more men, more dicks and indirectly more gayness, so i feel like that is a good 10/10 for this scale)

Fucking in the ass (-1 GSC, the reason for a deduction of GSC is because of the fact that most men like asses, and if you asked a man if theyd fuck someone in the ass, theyd probably say yes, so because of the fact that even though the gender involved adds alot of GSC, if you only care about the ass i can say its -1 GSC)

Level of Enjoyment (N/A, I personally havent fucked a femboy or been pegged so i cant give a opinion of the enjoyment, but for this argument we can either say you either really enjoyed it or really hated it)

(if you enjoyed it because of fucking, 0 GSC, the reason for this is because if you enjoyed fucking a ass, it could be arguable that it is a straight behaviour, since you enjoy fucking, But you can also debate that if gay people fuck, they will fuck in the ass, so i would say they cancel each other out, so currently the GSC for Femboy is 7/10)

(if you enjoyed it because its a femboy, +1 GSC, since you got turned on by a male, not the ass itself, which is a objective gay action)

(if you hated it because of the ass, now you might think this is the same as if you enjoyed it if its a femboy, but just because you didnt enjoy it doesnt mean you hated it, so if you hated the ass and mainly did it because femboy, thats gayer than just enjoying the femboy since despite hating the ass, you did it even more for the fact of femboy compared to the previous hypothesis so i would say +2 GSC, which is a 9 GSC activity... wow pretty gay right?)

(if you hated it because of the femboy, -2 GSC, athough this could be flawed, i feel like if you hated the fact it was a guy and fucked just for ass, itll be less gay and more degenerate, so if you hated that it was a male, that is arguably straight, so if you followed this path, its a 5 GSC activity)


Frequency of said action (N/A, but in this hypothetical argument, i feel like itll be safe saying both were one night stands, if so, femboy is +0-2 GSC or -2 GSC since i can admit, fucking a femboy is gay, but in comparison to getting pegged, i can say its less gay,

Now since i kinda added arousal reason into LOE, i can go over to being pegged

Female (1/10 GSC, reason i put 1 is because there is no true not gay activity, we can get close tho, as in here)
Getting Pegged (+4 GSC, and you might think, DAMN thats a LOT of GSC, but you gotta realise that getting taking dick is gay)

If you hated the fact that you got pegged: while i did say its -1 GSC for hating the femboy, i would have to say theres no way you can ungay the fact that you took a dildx, so for that reason id have to say 0 GSC, since you already got pegged, the gayness doesnt go up or down

If you liked the fact that you got pegged: +1 GSC, since you enjoyed the feeling of a dildx, youd like the feeling of a dick since a dildx is made to replicate one, which if you told a guy you liked taking dick, thats pretty gay... so currently we are at 6 GSC

Frequency of said action: The one night stand variable still stnads, so id say its a -1 GSC activity if you never do it again

So this would be a 5 GSC activity.


Now for the final Conclusion:

Fucked a femboy and liked femboy: 8/10, gay

Fucked a femboy and liked ass: 7/10

Fucked a femboy and hated femboy: 5/10

Fucked a femboy and hated ass: 9/10, super gay

Got pegged: 5/10
(since its a woman, now i cant say Got pegged and hated the fact that it was a guy, cause you see why, so the variables are limited)
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it cant be...

as i explained at the start of the thread my philosophy was based on my countless thousands of hours of study dating back to the ancient greek teachers of centuries past

but the GSC is a concept like no other i've seen before. i have no response or retaliation. surely not...

trueceljester you've beaten me. you've won. and with that you can have my title of forum philosopher

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as for me? im gonna go on my own journey now

you showed me i have a lot to learn, not just about the GSC and my femboy philosophy

but about how far the iq gap between me and you really is.

i'll be back to iqmog you... someday...

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it cant be...

as i explained at the start of the thread my philosophy was based on my countless thousands of hours of study dating back to the ancient greek teachers of centuries past

but the GSC is a concept like no other i've seen before. i have no response or retaliation. surely not...

trueceljester you've beaten me. you've won. and with that you can have my title of forum philosopher

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as for me? im gonna go on my own journey now

you showed me i have a lot to learn, not just about the GSC and my femboy philosophy

but about how far the iq gap between me and you really is.

i'll be back to iqmog you... someday...

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Holy shit this is so peak.
 

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