Serious Fuck i can't wait to find someone with whom i can debate about

[Suomi Volksgrenadier]

Racism, Antisemitism, Judo-falostinian war, Ukrainian-Russian war, migration, morality, ideologies, historic impact of different leaders and a few more
Anyone?

 

[alacrity]

Racism, Antisemitism, Judo-falostinian war, Ukrainian-Russian war, migration, morality, ideologies, historic impact of different leaders and a few more
Anyone?

Oh I know one, what are you thought about abortion! I know it's overrated but I can't bother to listen to some f*g podcast

Got dnr'd

 

[tospakz]

Do you support İslamic terrorizm

 

[limo8]

Ukrainian-Russian war

what about it

 

[Carcinogenic]

@leea want to debate you on feminism and the patriarchy

 

[Br4va]

what about it

Dw he on your side

 

[Br4va]

I’m down to debate

 

[leea]

Oh I know one, what are you thought about abortion! I know it's overrated but I can't bother to listen to some f*g podcast

Got dnr'd

I dont think thats a topic he should have an opinion on, assuming he doesnt have a uterus

 

[alacrity]

I dont think thats a topic he should have an opinion on, assuming he doesnt have a uterus

Yeah, but your take would be boring

 

[leea]

Yeah, but your take would be boring

Youre pro abortion?

 

[alacrity]

Youre pro?

Depends, if it's from r**e, but a thing is that I think a lot of women will accuse random guys of r**e, just to get an abortion, and that's bad, but on the other hand, I don't want women to have to keep a baby that they didn't have control over making

 

[leea]

Depends, if it's from r**e, but a thing is that I think a lot of women will accuse random guys of r**e, just to get an abortion, and that's bad, but on the other hand, I don't want women to have to keep a baby that they didn't have control over making

If you think a woman should be violated to have rights on her bodily autonomy thats sick. But either way thats not a topic i would debate on since any woman can abort it whether its legal in their countries or not.
If i was pregnant and didnt want that parasite inside of me i would literally just backflip right into a curb or drink some shit. Your opinion doesnt matter(if youre a moid).

 

[limo8]

If you think a woman should be violated to have rights on her bodily autonomy thats sick. But either way thats not a topic i would debate on since any woman can abort it whether its legal in their countries or not.
If i was pregnant and didnt want that parasite inside of me i would literally just backflip right into a curb or drink some shit. Your opinion doesnt matter(if youre a moid).

i mean depends how you got pregnant if you got pregnant without consent obv there no reason to force you to conceive that child but if that was sudden mood change i argue you need to pay a fine for reckless behaviour or some bs like that if you get abortion or leave child in foster home or it needs to be punished in some way and if you were in contract with another person legal paperwork like marriage for example they would need to chip into that fine and it could even be added to their legal record because another life is very big deal overall (my opinion)

 

[leea]

i mean depends how you got pregnant if you got pregnant without consent obv there no reason to force you to conceive that child but if that was sudden mood change i argue you need to pay a fine for reckless behaviour or some bs like that if you get abortion or leave child in foster home or it needs to be punished in some way and if you were in contract with another person legal paperwork like marriage for example they would need to chip into that fine and it could even be added to their legal record because another life is very big deal overall (my opinion)

. Your opinion doesnt matter(if youre a moid).

But alright,you do realize that it takes 2 to conceive a baby. By your logic both parents should be fined for being "reckless" if that was the case.
Most abortions happen under 8 weeks when the fetus is the size of an olive.
All humans should have full rights to their body. Also 1 in 4 pregnancies end in abortion, In places where abortion is legal and accessible and where there is less stigma, women can get safe abortion.
However, in places where its restricted they resort to unsafe abortions It is estimated that 25 million unsafe abortions take place every year, the vast majority of them in developing countries, and can lead to fatal consequences such as maternal deaths and disabilities.
IN both cases if a woman doesnt want that parasite living inside of her and sucking her nutrients shes going to get rid of it one way or another and its only logical to ensure a safe abortion

 

[limo8]

But alright,you do realize that it takes 2 to conceive a baby. By your logic both parents should be fined for being "reckless" if that was the case.
Most abortions happen under 8 weeks when the fetus is the size of an olive.
All humans should have full rights to their body. Also 1 in 4 pregnancies end in abortion, In places where abortion is legal and accessible and where there is less stigma, women can get safe abortion.
However, in places where its restricted they resort to unsafe abortions It is estimated that 25 million unsafe abortions take place every year, the vast majority of them in developing countries, and can lead to fatal consequences such as maternal deaths and disabilities.
IN both cases if a woman doesnt want that parasite living inside of her and sucking her nutrients shes going to get rid of it one way or another and its only logical to ensure a safe abortion

son did you read what i said why do i need this useless info about awww its so unsafe cus blah blah i just said that parents should get fined if they didnt think it though and had sudden mood change

 

[leea]

son did you read what i said why do i need this useless info about awww its so unsafe cus blah blah i just said that parents should get fined if they didnt think it though and had sudden mood change

Lmao ur opinion dorsnt matter either way. Trust me no woman will carry a baby that she doesnt want one way or another.

 

[limo8]

Lmao ur opinion dorsnt matter either way. Trust me no woman will carry a baby that she doesnt want one way or another.

why have the baby if you dont want it r**e doesnt count

 

[leea]

why have the baby if you dont want it r**e doesnt count

Mistakes happen

 

[limo8]

Mistakes happen

sonion like what oops forgot to buy a condom oh well lets have sex anyways?

 

[Zygos]

what are your thoughts on antisemitism

 

[leea]

sonion like what oops forgot to buy a condom oh well lets have sex anyways?

Nothing prevents pregnancy 100%. Even if it was something reckless aslong as she aborts the baby under like 12 weeks no issue. If its 12+ weeks it might hurt the mother and we dont want that do we.

 

[limo8]

Nothing prevents pregnancy 100%. Even if it was something reckless aslong as she aborts the baby under like 12 weeks no issue. If its 12+ weeks it might hurt the mother and we dont want that do we.

sure condom isnt 100% pills arent 100% i think even vasectomy isnt but still you are excusing too much there should be at least some draw back to this and if they did actually had gone out of their way to take every measure possible to not have kids while yk then they should sue who ever fucked up like come on creating life is not a small thing it should be treated as very serious thing

 

[leea]

sure condom isnt 100% pills arent 100% i think even vasectomy isnt but still you are excusing too much there should be at least some draw back to this and if they did actually had gone out of their way to take every measure possible to not have kids while yk then they should sue who ever fucked up like come on creating life is not a small thing it should be treated as very serious thing

You know why its fucked? Beause its the only thing men dont have control over. A woman can end that shit and nobody can do anything about it. Reproduction is very important and women holding total power over it makes them lose sense of control. Its not wrong in any scenario.

 

[limo8]

You know why its fucked? Beause its the only thing men dont have control over. A woman can end that shit and nobody can do anything about it. Reproduction is very important and women holding total power over it makes them lose sense of control. Its not wrong in any scenario.

did you read the part where i said that both parents are punished or you just ignored it

 

[leea]

did you read the part where i said that both parents are punished or you just ignored it

illogical idea thats why i ignored it

 

[Carcinogenic]

What did i cause here @Suomi Volksgrenadier im sorry for this

 

[limo8]

illogical idea thats why i ignored it

bruv logic is not objective tell me why its illogical

 

[leea]

bruv logic is not objective tell me why its illogical

Its never going to happen. Not even in a hypothetical way.

 

[limo8]

Its never going to happen. Not even in a hypothetical way.

okey yea i can agree with that logic but i cant agree with it never happening probability might be low but could happen but yea i agree its more on unrealistic side its just that to me almost every life is important and i would rather to not put anyone in suffering if possible which one could argue muh they dont have muh "consciousness" which to me doesnt exist and even tho vegatable state people are on the same level even tho doctors and science could call them not "sentient" but i cant agree with them its like saying animals dont understand us so they arent "sentient" or something like that which is why i would prefer for this whole abortion thing to not go so far only in bad cases when normal ways fail like condoms and pills and vasectomy too or bad stuff like rap but if it was sudden change of mood people will think twice before even doing the thing yk what i mean

 

[leea]

okey yea i can agree with that logic but i cant agree with it never happening probability might be low but could happen but yea i agree its more on unrealistic side its just that to me almost every life is important and i would rather to not put anyone in suffering if possible which one could argue muh they dont have muh "consciousness" which to me doesnt exist and even tho vegatable state people are on the same level even tho doctors and science could call them not "sentient" but i cant agree with them its like saying animals dont understand us so they arent "sentient" or something like that which is why i would prefer for this whole abortion thing to not go so far only in bad cases when normal ways fail like condoms and pills and vasectomy too or bad stuff like rap but if it was sudden change of mood people will think twice before even doing the thing yk what i mean

They literally only develop a heartbeat after 10 weeks. And you cant go against scientists btw thats stupid. And by your logic you should be vegan by now.

 

[limo8]

They literally only develop a heartbeat after 10 weeks. And you cant go against scientists btw thats stupid. And by your logic you should be vegan by now.

i cant choose my diet i eat what my mom or grandma buys i have no say in that because they are older and know more or some bs like that

 

[leea]

i cant choose my diet i eat what my mom or grandma buys i have no say in that because they are older and know more or some bs like that

as if youd be vegan if you were to buy your own groceries

 

[limo8]

as if youd be vegan if you were to buy your own groceries

i cant know that so idk how to answer because its impossible for me to check it because thats not reality how i know it and running by logic of this its unreliable and would be false and close enough for my liking so i cant really answer your hypothetical question

 

[leea]

i cant know that so idk how to answer because its impossible for me to check it because thats not reality how i know it and running by logic of this its unreliable and would be false and close enough for my liking so i cant really answer your hypothetical question

Im saying that since youre here acting like an empath and caring about a parasite that cannot pgysically feel anything to begin with.

 

[limo8]

Im saying that since youre here acting like an empath and caring about a parasite that cannot pgysically feel anything to begin with.

i know that but we are talking about more of a human like life even tho i bringed up animal to make a point about it not being "sentient" which is valid point to make from your side and directly tests my logic but its still not fair because we humans are extremely self centered which is why you are arguing about that start of life not being anything more than parasite and im saying that its already start of something feels it something or not i would rather for it to not go as far as that only if it was not their direct fault like like faulty condom pill or vasectomy

 

[leea]

i know that but we are talking about more of a human like life even tho i bringed up animal to make a point about it not being "sentient" which is valid point to make from your side and directly tests my logic but its still not fair because we humans are extremely self centered which is why you are arguing about that start of life not being anything more than parasite and im saying that its already start of something feels it something or not i would rather for it to not go as far as that only if it was not their direct fault like like faulty condom pill or vasectomy

A parasite is an organism that lives on or inside another living organism (called a host). It gets its food and energy from the host. The parasite benefits from this relationship, but it usually harms the host.
We dont have many options to prevent birth as it seems for example the condom may not feel great, pill has way too many side effects on the women, vasectomy irreversible i think and expensive. So even if these work theyre arent really convenient.

 

[Suomi Volksgrenadier]

Do you support İslamic terrorizm

I support your mother being fucked in all holes, fucking Turkish son of a slut

 

[Suomi Volksgrenadier]

I dont think thats a topic he should have an opinion on, assuming he doesnt have a uterus

You shouldn't have any opinion on politics, economy, war, literature since you never was any of that

 

[Suomi Volksgrenadier]

Ab

I’m down to debate

About what?

 

[Suomi Volksgrenadier]

what about it

Fym what about it

 

[limo8]

Fym what about it

i mean like what there to debate

 

[Suomi Volksgrenadier]

what are your thoughts on antisemitism

I recently had a post, where I said that anti-semitizm is bazed. Also, I belive in ZOGland

 

[Suomi Volksgrenadier]

i mean like what there to debate

Casualties, who really stands behind war, who started it, did Ukraine really reject some papers, was the loss of 120 out of 200 soldiers and their later retreat a "gesture of a goodwill" or just a strategical loss

 

[Suomi Volksgrenadier]

Casualties, who really stands behind war, who started it, did Ukraine really reject some papers, was the loss of 120 out of 200 soldiers and their later retreat a "gesture of a goodwill" or just a strategical loss

And more

 

[limo8]

Casualties, who really stands behind war, who started it, did Ukraine really reject some papers, was the loss of 120 out of 200 soldiers and their later retreat a "gesture of a goodwill" or just a strategical loss

okey who you think started it

 

[limo8]

And more

yea i get what you mean now

 

[Suomi Volksgrenadier]

okey who you think started it

It all started after Crimea was given to Ukrainian SSR in 1954 due to demographical damage after war. Later, in 1994, there was a Budapesht Memorandum, after which, Ukrainian was obliged to reject all their nuclear weapons, while USA and Russia were obliged to esteem Ukrainian borders. After that, happened the Maidan in 2014, Yanukovich ran in fear(maybe it was during 4-9 am, forgot), because he was prorussian politician. Then, Russia understood, that it will mean that Ukraine will want to join NATO(Russia feared it). Later was a referendum in Crimea(which was illegitimate, because in constitution it is stated, that only supreme Court can put these type of referendum, and it NEEDS to be IN ALL UKRAINE, not only in one region. This referendum wasn't only unconstitutional, but also supervised by russian forces. Later, Russians sponsored people in Donbass, gave them guns, and Donbasz people decided to become a russian part. Then, Russian forces came in donbass, and, there started ATO(Anti terroristic operation). In 2014-2015 were Minsk memorandum, under which Russians were obliged to retreat, Kyiv would gain control over it's territories back, and Donbass would have a special status. But, Russians didn't fulfill them, and, in 2022 started war. It was with the help of Belarus, they went on Kiev, there were deadly battles, and when they landed in Hostomel airport, Ukrainians started firing artillery Later, they were thrown out from Kiev by conscripts and national guardians It was Russias elite forces. Retards say that it was strategical retreat due to Istanbul deals, but... there was NO mention of retreat, they just failed miserably. Also, statement "Ukrainians bombed donbass for 8 years" is not like you imagine. We bombed russian forces, while they bombed everyone. They bombed Donbass too, but never tell you about it.

 

[tami_26]

Racism, Antisemitism, Judo-falostinian war, Ukrainian-Russian war, migration, morality, ideologies, historic impact of different leaders and a few more
Anyone?

What’s your stance on each?

 

[Suomi Volksgrenadier]

What’s your stance on each?

I will write shortly, want to go eat.
Isrealo Palestinian war- Palestinians wanted to get back their own land, but terrorism wan't a choice, while Israel is a "fake country" created by USA in 1948. I hate both. Abiut Ukrainian- Russian I worte higher. Migration is a real problem not only because of crime rise and great replacement, but also because they are taking OUR working places. Like ok, if you're a migrant and work on a poor low pay job then k, it's wht you deserve, ethnic. Morality is a doctrine, and killing is a moral good. Ideologies... many words. And, historic impact depends on a leader. But, only a few leaders, I don't know that much, like maybe after 1800 in Europe and 1900 in USA.
Racism and antisemitism are based(https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/threads/mods-donxt-ban-why-racism-antisemitism-based.226502/)

 

[limo8]

It all started after Crimea was given to Ukrainian SSR in 1954 due to demographical damage after war. Later, in 1994, there was a Budapesht Memorandum, after which, Ukrainian was obliged to reject all their nuclear weapons, while USA and Russia were obliged to esteem Ukrainian borders. After that, happened the Maidan in 2014, Yanukovich ran in fear(maybe it was during 4-9 am, forgot), because he was prorussian politician. Then, Russia understood, that it will mean that Ukraine will want to join NATO(Russia feared it). Later was a referendum in Crimea(which was illegitimate, because in constitution it is stated, that only supreme Court can put these type of referendum, and it NEEDS to be IN ALL UKRAINE, not only in one region. This referendum wasn't only unconstitutional, but also supervised by russian forces. Later, Russians sponsored people in Donbass, gave them guns, and Donbasz people decided to become a russian part. Then, Russian forces came in donbass, and, there started ATO(Anti terroristic operation). In 2014-2015 were Minsk memorandum, under which Russians were obliged to retreat, Kyiv would gain control over it's territories back, and Donbass would have a special status. But, Russians didn't fulfill them, and, in 2022 started war. It was with the help of Belarus, they went on Kiev, there were deadly battles, and when they landed in Hostomel airport, Ukrainians started firing artillery Later, they were thrown out from Kiev by conscripts and national guardians It was Russias elite forces. Retards say that it was strategical retreat due to Istanbul deals, but... there was NO mention of retreat, they just failed miserably. Also, statement "Ukrainians bombed donbass for 8 years" is not like you imagine. We bombed russian forces, while they bombed everyone. They bombed Donbass too, but never tell you about it.

are you from ukraine or something you seem to have good understanding of what has happened but also i think it started much earlier back when Moscovyy after Kyiv being destroyed/in ruines they took the title for being the main Rus or whatever they did basically stole the title and history which is why until this day they trying to destroy Ukraine to fully claim the history they stole