gender roles arent really manmade, in nature there are "gender roles" which are pretty similar to how i think things should be

[Deleted Member 126149]

The gender roles defined by nature:

Penis in vagina (optional)

 

[uggo-exploratorem]

 

[twinkdestroyer]

weiland spoke of this

 

[tami_26]

I hate when people speak rubbish

 

[Deleted Member 126149]

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Can you resize your image to smaller resolution? Thanks

 

[Aryy]

wyaland

 

[Penalizer69]

In nature I'd kill all the greycels (in far cry primal)

 

[uggo-exploratorem]

Can you resize your image to smaller resolution? Thanks

No bitch

 

[Deleted Member 126149]

No bitch

May you please resize the image.
Much gratitude.

 

[uggo-exploratorem]

May you please resize the image.
Much gratitude.

No, I do what I want.

 

[1894]

The people who made this argument are the gays btw to justify their twisted sexual orientation

 

[Deleted Member 126149]

No, I do what I want.

I might not treat you with such courtesy next time. Thx

 

[uggo-exploratorem]

I might not treat you with such courtesy next time. Thx

Do u think I gaf?

 

[Deleted Member 126149]

The people who made this argument are the gays btw to justify their twisted sexual orientation

doll wrote the title I wrote the post

 

[1894]

Anyone who reads in anthropology and sociology can easily see that gender roles are made by nature

 

[1894]

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CEO of fat chicks, are you black per chance ?

 

[uggo-exploratorem]

CEO of fat chicks, are you black per chance ?

No i wish i was, im a pathetic white boi, why? Also its “thicc”

 

[tami_26]

Anyone who reads anthropology and sociology can easily see that gender roles are made by nature

kneeslapper this is

 

[1894]

kneeslapper this is

I can provide 10ths of studies proving my point

 

[doll]

Anyone who reads in anthropology and sociology can easily see that gender roles are made by nature

thats what im trying to explain to them, they think im extremely wrong

 

[tami_26]

thats what im trying to explain to them, they think im extremely wrong

Thank you for understanding that atleast

 

[tami_26]

I can provide 10ths of studies proving my point

Well go on then

 

[1894]

thats what im trying to explain to them, they think im extremely wrong

I can give you the studies I’ve read if you want

 

[1894]

Well go on then

Will you read them tho so I don’t waste my time ?

 

[tami_26]

Will you read them tho so I don’t waste my time ?

If you make good points ofc I’ll read,I don’t understand how gender can be viewed as a social construct when it changes between cultures and time periods,while gender does intersect with sex which means it’s influenced by biology it’s not 100% at all.

 

[1894]

If you make good points ofc I’ll read,I don’t understand how gender can be viewed as a social construct when it changes between cultures and time periods,while gender does intersect with sex which means it’s influenced by biology it’s not 100% at all.

https://openlibrary.org/books/OL5543563M/Ethnographic_atlas


https://www.worlddevelopment.uzh.ch/en/atlas/culheri/socorg/sedila.html


https://archive.org/search?query=Talcott+Parsons+The+Social+System


https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/...d-shift-by-arlie-hochschild-and-anne-machung/


https://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kemmer/Words04/usage/parentialinvestment.pdf


https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Ruth+Feldman+oxytocin+motherhood


https://www.routledge.com/Evolution...Science-of-the-Mind/Buss/p/book/9781138088610


https://archive.org/search?query=Man+the+Hunter+Lee+DeVore


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19338503/


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21094892/


https://www.researchgate.net/public...Meta-Analysis_of_Sex_Differences_in_Interests


https://doi.org/10.1037/a0017364


https://doi.org/10.1037/a0017364


https://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kemmer/Words04/usage/parentialinvestment.pdf

 

[tami_26]

https://openlibrary.org/books/OL5543563M/Ethnographic_atlas


https://www.worlddevelopment.uzh.ch/en/atlas/culheri/socorg/sedila.html


https://archive.org/search?query=Talcott+Parsons+The+Social+System


https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/...d-shift-by-arlie-hochschild-and-anne-machung/


https://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kemmer/Words04/usage/parentialinvestment.pdf


https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Ruth+Feldman+oxytocin+motherhood


https://www.routledge.com/Evolution...Science-of-the-Mind/Buss/p/book/9781138088610


https://archive.org/search?query=Man+the+Hunter+Lee+DeVore


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19338503/


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21094892/


https://www.researchgate.net/public...Meta-Analysis_of_Sex_Differences_in_Interests


https://doi.org/10.1037/a0017364


https://doi.org/10.1037/a0017364


https://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kemmer/Words04/usage/parentialinvestment.pdf

Mirin for atleast siting studies,before I read in your own words why would you say gender isn’t a social construct

 

[1894]

Mirin for atleast siting studies,before I read in your own words why would you say gender isn’t a social construct

Because of the evidence I just listed ? And I have more but those will do. Gender differences are largely rooted in biology and evolution, with some culture modifying

 

[tami_26]

Because of the evidence I just listed ? And I have more but those will do. Gender differences are largely rooted in biology and evolution, with some culture modifying

Gender isn’t only based off gender differences tho.Im not claiming both sexes are the same,I’m claiming that gender is based off culture which makes it man made,for example seeing pink as a girl colour.

 

[1894]

Gender isn’t only based off gender differences tho.Im not claiming both sexes are the same,I’m claiming that gender is based off culture which makes it man made,for example seeing pink as a girl colour.

I literally just said “ with some culture modifying “

 

[tami_26]

I literally just said “ with some culture modifying “

Gender being influenced by sex differences doesn’t change it’s a social construct, the same way race is based of differences in phenotypes,it’s still a social construct

 

[1894]

Gender being influenced by sex differences doesn’t change it’s a social construct, the same way race is based of differences in phenotypes,it’s still a social construct

That only works if you define gender the same way you define race. a lot of sex linked behaviors, interests, and psychological traits have biological roots as shown in the studies If those traits exist independently of culture then gender can’t be entirely a social construct in the same way that categories like pink for girls are.

 

[tami_26]

That only works if you define gender the same way you define race. a lot of sex linked behaviors, interests, and psychological traits have biological roots as shown in the studies If those traits exist independently of culture then gender can’t be entirely a social construct in the same way that categories like pink for girls are.

All those concepts are packaged together tho to deem something as feminine or masculine,social construct can have some biological play into it.

 

[1894]

All those concepts are packaged together tho to deem something as feminine or masculine,social construct can have some biological play into it.

if biology consistently shapes the traits behaviors and preferences that societies label as masculine or feminine then those categories aren’t being created by culture from scratch The disagreement is really over the word social construct You’re saying gender is socially defined while I’m saying the things being defined aren’t necessarily socially created.

 

[tami_26]

if biology consistently shapes the traits behaviors and preferences that societies label as masculine or feminine then those categories aren’t being created by culture from scratch The disagreement is really over the word social construct You’re saying gender is socially defined while I’m saying the things being defined aren’t necessarily socially created.

My point is they are largely socially defined,since they change across different places and time periods showing the biological element to not play as huge a role

 

[TonyDr]

The gender roles defined by nature:

Penis in vagina (optional)

Gender roles always existed in Nature since day one so the group and it offsprings would survive. It's a partnership. People said it's man-made until SHTF badly and all of the sudden the survival instincts might kick in.

 

[1894]

My point is they are largely socially defined,since they change across different places and time periods showing the biological element to not play as huge a role

You can literally read in the studies that it’s otherwise

 

[HerculesJr.]

The gender roles defined by nature:

Penis in vagina (optional)

feel like its that and

-Men are good at defend against threats (for obvious reasons due to being larger and stronger)

-Women are good at raising children (since they lit grow them inside of themselves)

 

[tami_26]

You can literally read in the studies that it’s otherwise

There is studies to show both,for example Ethan Zell's study and Judith Butler theory.You can also just look at other cultures and histories views on gender which quickly show it’s not as a clear cut as biology

 

[1894]

There is studies to show both,for example Ethan Zell's study and Judith Butler theory.You can also just look at other cultures and histories views on gender which quickly show it’s not as a clear cut as biology

I’m not saying it’s 100% biology I’m saying a lot of exist because of biology and evolution adaptations. Yes cultural influence exists but saying it’s just a cultural construct is crazy

 

[tami_26]

I’m not saying it’s 100% biology I’m saying a lot of exist because of biology and evolution adaptations. Yes cultural influence exists but saying it’s just a cultural construct is crazy

The fact there is a distinction in sex and gender,shows how it’s a social construct.The idea of being less or more of a women or man based on behaviour is not biological since being a woman or man is based on the genitalia you are born with

 

[1894]

The fact there is a distinction in sex and gender,shows how it’s a social construct.The idea of being less or more of a women or man based on behaviour is not biological since being a woman or man is based on the genitalia you are born with

No. And I’m done arguing cause you keep on repeating the same points in different words just read the studies.

 

[tami_26]

No. And I’m done arguing cause you keep on repeating the same points in different words just read the studies.

I literally haven’t I’ll read the studies but like most things there are studies on both sides,making it an educated opinion to believe one or the other