how can i get to mtb / hmtb?

[lia.jav]

hi sorry im very new to this forum! how can i get to (preferably) hmtb?
also pls tips for side profile im so cooked
im 160cm, around 54kg and i have visible ab definition (my obliques are very defined and my upper abs are a little visible)
i like my figure so is there some way to improve my jawline without weightloss </3
no makeup in the video i only have literally a line on my nose from bronzer

 

[Yeagerist]

negative canthal tilt

 

[lia.jav]

nct

does this mean negative canthal tilt?

 

[lia.jav]

does this mean negative canthal tilt?

nvm

 

[rand anon]

my bite is slightly off thats why my dentist recommended to get braces :,)

I see, well it depends on what type of misalignment it is. Whatever the case is, do NOT get elastics If they try to make u wear them then ur very likely a good contender for bimax or bsso

although i do want to improve my looks i dont want to go through cosmetical surgeries or get fillers cuz it would definitely make me feel kinda fake (even if it means me staying chopped )

when it comes to jaw osteotomies like bimax, there rly isn’t a reason to feel fake

You’d essentially just be correcting ur jaw to how it should’ve been in the first place

 

[lia.jav]

I see, well it depends on what type of misalignment it is. Whatever the case is, do NOT get elastics If they try to make u wear them then ur very likely a good contender for bimax or bsso

Sorry but what is bimax and bsso? :,) ill probably go to the dentist again around december / january but basically from what i understood my upper teeth are pushed a little forwards and theres a bigger gap between the upper and lower teeth than ideal

 

[rand anon]

Sorry but what is bimax and bsso? :,)

Surgeries that advance the maxilla and mandible forward, to improve forward growth

ill probably go to the dentist again around december / january but basically from what i understood my upper teeth are pushed a little forwards and theres a bigger gap between the upper and lower teeth than ideal

Yep sounds like an overbite. I def wouldn’t rely on braces to fix this, they’re def gonna try to retract ur maxilla with elastics. If u can, I’d recommend reaching out to an ortho or better, a maxfac surgeon, to get a consult for bsso

 

[lia.jav]

Surgeries that advance the maxilla and mandible forward, to improve forward growth

Yep sounds like an overbite. I def wouldn’t rely on braces to fix this, they’re def gonna try to retract ur maxilla with elastics. If u can, I’d recommend reaching out to an ortho or better, a maxfac surgeon, to get a consult for bsso

well i dont have a major overbite so i dont think that the braces will actually fuck up my maxilla even more
also by retract maxilla u mean like pushing it back or?

 

[rand anon]

well i dont have a major overbite so i dont think that the braces will actually fuck up my maxilla even more
also by retract maxilla u mean like pushing it back or?

Yes, they typically use elastics to pull the maxilla back, not at all optimal and very often descends people’s looks

 

[lia.jav]

Yes, they typically use elastics to pull the maxilla back, not at all optimal and very often descends people’s looks

is there no other non surgical way to fix my overbite :,))) im pretty sure since my overbite isnt that bad (my teeth work functionally) they probably wont let me get bsso

 

[rand anon]

is there no other non surgical way to fix my overbite :,)))

No unfortunately
I’m hesitant to get surgeries too but I’ll likely hve to get rhino, for whatever that’s worth

im pretty sure since my overbite isnt that bad (my teeth work functionally) they probably wont let me get bsso

They will, insurance just won’t cover it

 

[lia.jav]

No unfortunately
I’m hesitant to get surgeries too but I’ll likely hve to get rhino, for whatever that’s worth

They will, insurance just won’t cover it

honestly if it was up to me id definitely want to get the surgery but my parents most definitely wont allow it so lol :,) but my maxillas alr fucked up so it wont make much of a difference

 

[rand anon]

honestly if it was up to me id definitely want to get the surgery but my parents most definitely wont allow it so lol :,) but my maxillas alr fucked up so it wont make much of a difference

I’d just opt out of getting anything then, until ur 21+

 

[lia.jav]

I’d just opt out of getting anything then, until ur 21+

nah idk ill check with my dentist + (i forgot the english name for dentists who specialise in braces) and ill ask them about the maxilla + ill research + im scared af of surgeries

 

[rand anon]

nah idk ill check with my dentist + (i forgot the english name for dentists who specialise in braces)

Ortho?

and ill ask them about the maxilla + ill research + im scared af of surgeries

Well u should always do ur own research, but more than likely they’re just gonna try to convince u into elastics, that’s how they make money

 

[lia.jav]

Ortho?

Well u should always do ur own research, but more than likely they’re just gonna try to convince u into elastics, that’s how they make money

yeaaaa probably but ill definitely keep all of this info in mind when going to the ortho and dentist
tysm

also if i were to get braces would it bring a negative net or positive to my current appearance?

 

[rand anon]

yeaaaa probably but ill definitely keep all of this info in mind when going to the ortho and dentist
tysm

also if i were to get braces would it bring a negative net or positive to my current appearance?

braces by themselves, no, but like I mentioned, braces with elastics, negative

 

[lia.jav]

braces by themselves, no, but like I mentioned, braces with elastics, negative

well while we were talking about the topic of braces with elastics i tried researching a bit and from what i found it doesnt push back the maxilla but push back the upper teeth while also pulling the lower teeth
it shouldnt have a direct effect to the maxilla and if it does its gonna be a very minor effect
pls if u have any sources that say the opposite send

 

[rand anon]

well while we were talking about the topic of braces with elastics i tried researching a bit and from what i found it doesnt push back the maxilla but push back the upper teeth while also pulling the lower teeth
it shouldnt have a direct effect to the maxilla and if it does its gonna be a very minor effect
pls if u have any sources that say the opposite send

I’m on my phone rn so don’t rly wanna try to do any research lol

Pushing back the upper teeth will def push back the maxilla though, it’s up to you on whether u wanna take the gamble on how significant the effect will be. Many people end up regretting it though

 

[lia.jav]

I’m on my phone rn so don’t rly wanna try to do any research lol

Pushing back the upper teeth will def push back the maxilla though, it’s up to you on whether u wanna take the gamble on how significant the effect will be. Many people end up regretting it though

pushing up the upper teeth in my case will probably have little to no effect on my maxilla
the main cause for recession when fixing the overbite is extraction of the molars im pretty sure

 

[rand anon]

pushing up the upper teeth in my case will probably have little to no effect on my maxilla
the main cause for recession when fixing the overbite is extraction of the molars im pretty sure

Well I disagree but don’t wanna argue about it. Hopefully it’ll work out well for ya

 

[lia.jav]

Well I disagree but don’t wanna argue about it. Hopefully it’ll work out well for ya

well if u dont mind could i try to gain evidence + sources to support my claims and send them tmrw if ur up for it :,)

 

[Deleted Member 77884]

I am talking about this part.

"your bloating comes from recession + weak zygos (yes, as I wrote this I inclined into thinking your zygos are not rounded but weak)
How do you get solve bloated cheeks? Fixing jaw recession and water retention. With weak zygos you will (probably) never have hollowcheeks, unless you keep developing (with you said you probably wouldnt)."

Your zygos are strong and sharp

and your jaw looks well developed
Your bloated look is probably fat and water retention. Maybe you have a slight maxilla recession though but I am not sure.

 

[lia.jav]

well if u dont mind could i try to gain evidence + sources to support my claims and send them tmrw if ur up for it :,)

sorry im very annoyinf but i wrote an argument for my claim

disproval



your claim -

since the elastics pull the upper teeth backwards that must also mean that they pull the maxilla backward



my argument -

braces + the elastics are placed on the teeth

the teeth are on the alveolar bone which is what shifts not the actual skeletal upper jaw

the maxilla is part of the skull so it probably wont shift from just elastics (too soft of a force)



*ALSO*

most ppl who complain about getting braces to fix their overbite had teeth retractions which actually causes maxilla recession



and while researching i didnt find any proof from a reliable source claiming that braces with elastics cause upper jaw recession



i could tag source but tbh i barely understood wtf they were saying so i had chat gpt simplify it for me XD

 

[iblamelex]

hi sorry im very new to this forum! how can i get to (preferably) hmtb?
also pls tips for side profile im so cooked
im 160cm, around 54kg and i have visible ab definition (my obliques are very defined and my upper abs are a little visible)
i like my figure so is there some way to improve my jawline without weightloss </3
no makeup in the video i only have literally a line on my nose from bronzer

pretty, i’d say stick with no makeup or light makeup (mascara) but search a straight eyebrow tutorial on tiktok and make ur brows straight with a blade

 

[lia.jav]

pretty, i’d say stick with no makeup or light makeup (mascara) but search a straight eyebrow tutorial on tiktok and make ur brows straight with a blade

hii tysm for the advice!
i definitely do want straight eyebrows but im scared of making them too thin so i try to make them straight whenever i wear makeup

 

[The Centipede]

hi sorry im very new to this forum! how can i get to (preferably) hmtb?
also pls tips for side profile im so cooked
im 160cm, around 54kg and i have visible ab definition (my obliques are very defined and my upper abs are a little visible)
i like my figure so is there some way to improve my jawline without weightloss </3
no makeup in the video i only have literally a line on my nose from bronzer

You’re probably not too far off already fam

 

[iblamelex]

hii tysm for the advice!
i definitely do want straight eyebrows but im scared of making them too thin so i try to make them straight whenever i wear makeup

you won’t regrettt it i feel so much better when i do mine but i get it though you have nice brows n ur scared to ruin them mine was already thin so i didnt care but i say just do it, they grow back

 

[lia.jav]

you won’t regrettt it i feel so much better when i do mine but i get it though you have nice brows n ur scared to ruin them mine was already thin so i didnt care but i say just do it, they grow back

i actually think i have a video of me with thinner eyebrows no makeup if u wanna see? :,))

 

[iblamelex]

i actually think i have a video of me with thinner eyebrows no makeup if u wanna see? :,))

show mee

 

[lia.jav]

You’re probably not too far off already fam

my overbite and negative canthal tilt is holding me back so bad ltb final boss

 

[The Centipede]

my overbite and negative canthal tilt is holding me back so bad ltb final boss

Nah, you’re decent looking mate. X

 

[iblamelex]

my overbite and negative canthal tilt is holding me back so bad ltb final boss

a slight overbite is ideal

 

[The Centipede]

Nah, you’re decent looking mate. X

But yeah, if you want to improve shit go for it!

 

[Deleted Member 77884]

a slight overbite is ideal

R u confusing the natural way the upper teeth has to be more forward than the lower or do you just plainly believe overbite is good?

 

[iblamelex]

idk just copying what i see people say TBH

 

[lia.jav]

show mee

i was looking for the video and it has bad quality im so sorry :,,,,)

 

[iblamelex]

i was looking for the video and it has bad quality im so sorry :,,,,)

youre really pretty, i love the brows here id say make the fronts of the brow a little thinner, but you’re fine dont listen to anyone saying your not probably just incels you look super young so dont be harsh on yourself

 

[lia.jav]

i was looking for the video and it has bad quality im so sorry :,,,,)

also can sm1 give me tips for makeup?

 

[lia.jav]

youre really pretty, i love the brows here id say make the fronts of the brow a little thinner, but you’re fine dont listen to anyone saying your not probably just incels you look super young so dont be harsh on yourself

thank you sososososo much ill def make the front thinner

 

[lia.jav]

also can sm1 give me tips for makeup?

current makeup situation
* it wont let me upload vid *

 

[Deleted Member 77884]

idk just copying what i see people say TBH

Ye well the way that naturally upper teeth is slightly forward than lower teeth is normal. If it's too much it's called overbite

 

[iblamelex]

Ye well the way that naturally upper teeth is slightly forward than lower teeth is normal. If it's too much it's called overbite

ik ,mines quite bad

 

[2R0I2P0]

Your zygos are strong and sharp
View attachment 143878
and your jaw looks well developed
Your bloated look is probably fat and water retention. Maybe you have a slight maxilla recession though but I am not sure.

is that ela67???

 

[Deleted Member 77884]

is that ela67???

Yeah why surprised she post herself alot

 

[Deleted Member 54608]

Your zygos are strong and sharp
View attachment 143878
and your jaw looks well developed
Your bloated look is probably fat and water retention. Maybe you have a slight maxilla recession though but I am not sure.

Tbh I wouldn't trust this pic that much...the sun just hit at the right moment and my phone hasn't been able to reach this quality again...I feel like over the years my camera got worse and worse