How ever many options you think a girl has

[Motivated Dandelions]

I promise you she has more, like, a lot more. Most guys here underestimate womens SMV, I’ll put it this way.

Subhuman = MTN
LTB = HTN
MTB = CL
HTB = Chad
SL = Tall Gymmaxxed Chad
Stacy = True Adam

Like, if she’s LTB or above, there’s a 90% chance she’s been with absolute moggers before. HTNs, Tall MTNs, gymmaxxed MTNs, CLs, White, High Status, Big Cock, you name it, she’s definitely been with them before.

And it sucks, because you genuinely have to be an outlier and stand out from the rest for a LTB+ to even look at you with any sense of love.

 

[chudlite67]

I promise you she has more, like, a lot more. Most guys here underestimate womens SMV, I’ll put it this way.

Subhuman = MTN
LTB = HTN
MTB = CL
HTB = Chad
SL = Tall Gymmaxxed Chad
Stacy = True Adam

Like, if she’s LTB or above, there’s a 90% chance she’s been with absolute moggers before. HTNs, Tall MTNs, gymmaxxed MTNs, CLs, White, High Status, Big Cock, you name it, she’s definitely been with them before.

And it sucks, because you genuinely have to be an outlier and stand out from the rest for a LTB+ to even look at you with any sense of love.

Can’t wait for this to happen to me

 

[Deleted Member 85516]

I promise you she has more, like, a lot more. Most guys here underestimate womens SMV, I’ll put it this way.

Subhuman = MTN
LTB = HTN
MTB = CL
HTB = Chad
SL = Tall Gymmaxxed Chad
Stacy = True Adam

Like, if she’s LTB or above, there’s a 90% chance she’s been with absolute moggers before. HTNs, Tall MTNs, gymmaxxed MTNs, CLs, White, High Status, Big Cock, you name it, she’s definitely been with them before.

And it sucks, because you genuinely have to be an outlier and stand out from the rest for a LTB+ to even look at you with any sense of love.

one girl from my school looks like she has fetal alcohol syndrome
she still pulls 10 times more than me

 

[paulyune]

I only pull online tbf

 

[chudlite67]

I only pull online tbf

Same dw

 

[viasco]

supply & demand

 

[paulyune]

supply & demand

cravin simone

 

[Motivated Dandelions]

cravin simone

Brvtal Trvke

supply & demand

Brvtal Trvke

Same dw

Brvtal Trvke

I only pull online tbf

Brvtal Trvke

one girl from my school looks like she has fetal alcohol syndrome
she still pulls 10 times more than me

Brvtal Trvke

 

[tami_26]

I promise you she has more, like, a lot more. Most guys here underestimate womens SMV, I’ll put it this way.

Subhuman = MTN
LTB = HTN
MTB = CL
HTB = Chad
SL = Tall Gymmaxxed Chad
Stacy = True Adam

Like, if she’s LTB or above, there’s a 90% chance she’s been with absolute moggers before. HTNs, Tall MTNs, gymmaxxed MTNs, CLs, White, High Status, Big Cock, you name it, she’s definitely been with them before.

And it sucks, because you genuinely have to be an outlier and stand out from the rest for a LTB+ to even look at you with any sense of love.

I feel like that conversion is correct for like online attention but convert that to real life and it’s abit exaggerated idk it probably depends on other element too i suppose

 

[benny]

hmm honestly they may only jump one tier not two smv wise, but men will always chase more then women since women control the sexual market, so it can appear like they have more smv then they actually do.

Also i don’t know if it’s a linear progression in rating, likely more exponential. i think a htb = chad but mtb = htn

 

[Motivated Dandelions]

hmm honestly they may only jump one tier not two smv wise, but men will always chase more then women since women control the sexual market, so it can appear like they have more smv then they actually do.

Also i don’t know if it’s a linear progression in rating, likely more exponential. i think a htb = chad but mtb = htn

Trve… still not the point of my message

I feel like that conversion is correct for like online attention but convert that to real life and it’s abit exaggerated idk it probably depends on other element too i suppose

Unfortunately that wasn’t the point of my message

 

[tami_26]

hmm honestly they may only jump one tier not two smv wise, but men will always chase more then women since women control the sexual market, so it can appear like they have more smv then they actually do.

Also i don’t know if it’s a linear progression in rating, likely more exponential. i think a htb = chad but mtb = htn

Yes that what I meant like subhuman= mtn isn’t true imo

 

[tami_26]

Trve… still not the point of my message

Unfortunately that wasn’t the point of my message

What is your point sorry

 

[benny]

Yes that what I meant like subhuman= mtn isn’t true imo

i understand the point of his message tho now. You have to be a top 30% looks wise (or an outlier in some other category like money, physically, ect.) to even get an average women to look at you with love

 

[Motivated Dandelions]

What is your point sorry

Guys underestimate how many options women have and it often leads to them getting heart broken. They think they can “beat blackpill” by dating a girl a tier below them

I think it’s best to put looks aside and focus on the woman’s character. There are loyal HTBs while there are unloyal LTBs and vice versa

Looks CAN be an indication, but it never reveals one’s true character

 

[Motivated Dandelions]

i understand the point of his message tho now. You have to be a top 30% looks wise (or an outlier in some other category like money, physically, ect.) to even get an average women to look at you with love

Trvke, that too. I’d go as far as saying even top 20% might be the cut off

 

[benny]

Trvke, that too. I’d go as far as saying even top 20% might be the cut off

yeah prolly top 20% in overall attractiveness (height, harmony, features, dimorphism, angularity, physique, ect.)

 

[Trevor]

So what do ltns get

 

[tami_26]

i understand the point of his message tho now. You have to be a top 30% looks wise (or an outlier in some other category like money, physically, ect.) to even get an average women to look at you with love

I think looking at women holistically isn’t the best .If you approach them more on a one to one basis than she can love probably not immediately.There is a reason why there r relationships of guys who have lower smv than than the woman they r with (and they aren’t some outlier).I know plenty of girls personally who were with an unattractive (fat or short or both and or jst not attractive in general), poorer than them and jst worse off in pretty much in every field yet they were still together or she still liked him romantically,now I beg the question why

 

[benny]

I think looking at women holistically isn’t the best .If you approach them more on a one to one basis than she can love probably not immediately.There is a reason why there r relationships of guys who have lower smv than than the woman they r with (and they aren’t some outlier).I know plenty of girls personally who were with an unattractive (fat or short or both and or jst not attractive in general), poorer than them and jst worse off in pretty much in every field yet they were still together or she still liked him romantically,now I beg the question why

r u in highschool? i noticed these things don’t really become as prevalent until early adulthood

 

[Motivated Dandelions]

So what do ltns get

Depends on height, race, face, NT, inhib, frame

yeah prolly top 20% in overall attractiveness (height, harmony, features, dimorphism, angularity, physique, ect.)

Trvke

I think looking at women holistically isn’t the best .If you approach them more on a one to one basis than she can love probably not immediately.There is a reason why there r relationships of guys who have lower smv than than the woman they r with (and they aren’t some outlier).I know plenty of girls personally who were with an unattractive (fat or short or both and or jst not attractive in general), poorer than them and jst worse off in pretty much in every field yet they were still together or she still liked him romantically,now I beg the question why

Trvke

 

[tami_26]

Guys underestimate how many options women have and it often leads to them getting heart broken. They think they can “beat blackpill” by dating a girl a tier below them

I think it’s best to put looks aside and focus on the woman’s character. There are loyal HTBs while there are unloyal LTBs and vice versa

Looks CAN be an indication, but it never reveals one’s true character

Agreed options doesn’t define character of a person,it’s also stupid bcs if it’s in for example in a ltb’s character but she is loyal through force not choice than what happens if she geomaxw to an area where she is more sought after or if she ascends? I think bp made ppl think caring about character is cope but I beg to differ

 

[Zillophone]

dont forget the fact that us men do talk to multiple women at once like spray and pray type shi

 

[Motivated Dandelions]

Agreed options doesn’t define character of a person,it’s also stupid bcs if it’s in for example in a ltb’s character but she is loyal through force not choice than what happens if she geomaxw to an area where she is more sought after or if she ascends? I think bp made ppl think caring about character is cope but I beg to differ

Deep in my heart, I hate the blackpill…

 

[tami_26]

r u in highschool? i noticed these things don’t really become as prevalent until early adulthood

I’m not in high school because I’m from England but I see this prevalent not jst in teenagers

 

[Motivated Dandelions]

dont forget the fact that us men do talk to multiple women at once like spray and pray type shi

Both genders talk to multiple at once tbh, neither of us are loyal

 

[tami_26]

Deep in my heart, I hate the blackpill…

There is a reason I took a break

 

[tami_26]

Both genders talk to multiple at once tbh, neither of us are loyal

Yh and it feeds into eachother.No one wants to be cucked

 

[Deleted Member 118204]

I promise you she has more, like, a lot more. Most guys here underestimate womens SMV, I’ll put it this way.

Subhuman = MTN
LTB = HTN
MTB = CL
HTB = Chad
SL = Tall Gymmaxxed Chad
Stacy = True Adam

Correct and this is why it's all the more pathetic when an actually hot woman settles for an ugly man regardless of muh money or muh personality, literally self degradation when everything suggests she could find her attractive looksmatch with the smallest amount of effort.

 

[Notlockedin]

So what do ltns get

Nothing

 

[benny]

I’m not in high school because I’m from England but I see this prevalent not jst in teenagers

well there will always be outliers

i agree it’s not wise to approach women holistically, but it gives people who aren’t black pilled an idea of the average and how brutal it is out here.

on a day to day basis, i experience this. Only ltb and subhuman girls will show me any attention, (online and irl) and very rarely mtb+. I’ve only been shown interest by a htb once in my life (i was physiquemaxxed and she had a bf jfl) but this is out of my thousands of interactions with women.

 

[tami_26]

well there will always be outliers

i agree it’s not wise to approach women holistically, but it gives people who aren’t black pilled an idea of the average and how brutal it is out here.

on a day to day basis, i experience this. Only ltb and subhuman girls will show me any attention, (online and irl) and very rarely mtb+. I’ve only been shown interest by a htb once in my life (i was physiquemaxxed and she had a bf jfl) but this is out of my thousands of interactions with women.

I suppose,i think character should be weighted,for example a good chunk of women in my family mog their husbands,and do better than then them in some way (have a degree and better job than their husbands and stuff), and no they aren’t settling or cucking them either but I would say that comes down to their character.There is no point in being with a woman no matter her rating if she has a bad character it would play out well

 

[benny]

I suppose,i think character should be weighted,for example a good chunk of women in my family mog their husbands,and do better than then them in some way (have a degree and better job than their husbands and stuff), and no they aren’t settling or cucking them either but I would say that comes down to their character.There is no point in being with a woman no matter her rating if she has a bad character it would play out well

100% agreed i guess the context of this discussion is initial attraction/physical attraction in a relationship

personality/characeter definitely keeps people around

there’s also oofy doofy theory tho

 

[tami_26]

100% agreed i guess the context of this discussion is initial attraction/physical attraction in a relationship

personality/characeter definitely keeps people around

there’s also oofy doofy theory tho

Can u elaborate on that theory

 

[benny]

Can u elaborate on that theory

that women after they’re done having fun will settle down with an average “safer” guy

 

[tami_26]

that women after they’re done having fun will settle down with an average “safer” guy

Oh Yh I think that’s the case some of the time ik it’s not for the women in my family tho,like they didn’t date around or even marry old or anything so it wasn’t settling

 

[Hector of Troy]

smv as a concept was made in male spaces, for men
it's only applicable because women have a higher standard on who they decide to sleep with
it shouldn't be used for girls, a girl regardless of how she looks, if actively trying could get sex from a man better looking than her
what's really important for foids is what level of guy, in looks,wealth,education,social class etc
they can get a LTR or consequently settle down and marry to