Discussion How I can tell if someone is stupid

[mjölk]

I see many people on here who judge other peoples intelligence by the amount of relevant knowledge they have, or even the amount if agreeable opinions.

I wont even speak about judging based on opinions, but for knowledge, any stupid person can type a google search or ask chat gpt about the current topic. Any stupid person can do their research or have an interest in the topic. You will never know who took 1 hour to learn something, and who took 1 week to learn the same thing.


I can tell when someone is less intelligent by:

1. Their ability to understand simple concepts when explained to them
When it comes to logic. They dont need to agree with you neither does it need to be part of a debate, but stupid people will often respond to your statement with something that requires you to repeat your statement instead of refuting you, simply because they dont understand the contradiction or distinction.

2. How enthusiastic they are about certain concepts
For example, if a stupid person learns a new fact or topic, they will often exaggerate the importance of that fact or the complexity of the topic. The fact is most likely a fun fact with very little importance in the equation, but since they just wanna talk about their newly learnt fact and seem smart, they will speak about it as if it contributes more to the product than it actually does. If it is a topic, it could be something that we all couldve understood by a 2 sentence explanation, but that they see the need to write an essay about.

3. Their ability to follow in a conversation
When talking to stupid people, you will often have to keep going back in the conversation after realising they didnt understand something. The conversation first moves at a normal phase because you keep moving on to the next sub-topic, but eventually you will get stuck and have to look back in the convo to re-explain something that they have already responded to and seemingly understood, because they contradicted that explanation 10 messages later. Then the going back and fourth will confuse them even further and the conversation will be impossible to conclude.

@arya @PingPong @necrotic @Newday

 

[ChadCore]

No

 

[LaWi]

 

[Deleted Member 61421]

yeth

 

[ChadCore]

1. and 3. are pretty much the same point

 

[ChadCore]

It would be hard for someone to “follow in a conversation” (3.) without understanding what is being explained to them (1.)

 

[ChadCore]

It would be hard for someone to “follow in a conversation” (3.) without understanding what is being explained to them (1.)

@HairyCat

 

[mjölk]

1. and 3. are pretty much the same point

No, there is a difference between being stuck in one place and having a moving conversation only to have to go back later.
I think 3rd is actually way worse as well because they have actually agreed/understood/responded to you but then completely forgot to apply it to the equation later on.

 

[sams872]

I see many people on here who judge other peoples intelligence by the amount of relevant knowledge they have, or even the amount if agreeable opinions.

I wont even speak about judging based on opinions, but for knowledge, any stupid person can type a google search or ask chat gpt about the current topic. Any stupid person can do their research or have an interest in the topic. You will never know who took 1 hour to learn something, and who took 1 week to learn the same thing.


I can tell when someone is less intelligent by:

1. Their ability to understand simple concepts when explained to them
When it comes to logic. They dont need to agree with you neither does it need to be part of a debate, but stupid people will often respond to your statement with something that requires you to repeat your statement instead of refuting you, simply because they dont understand the contradiction or distinction.

2. How enthusiastic they are about certain concepts
For example, if a stupid person learns a new fact or topic, they will often exaggerate the importance of that fact or the complexity of the topic. The fact is most likely a fun fact with very little importance in the equation, but since they just wanna talk about their newly learnt fact and seem smart, they will speak about it as if it contributes more to the product than it actually does. If it is a topic, it could be something that we all couldve understood by a 2 sentence explanation, but that they see the need to write an essay about.

3. Their ability to follow in a conversation
When talking to stupid people, you will often have to keep going back in the conversation after realising they didnt understand something. The conversation first moves at a normal phase because you keep moving on to the next sub-topic, but eventually you will get stuck and have look back in the convo to re-explain something that they have already responded to and seemingly understood, because they contradicted that explanation 10 messages later. Then the going back and fourth will confuse them even further and the conversation will be impossible to conclude.

@arya @PingPong @necrotic @Newday

Depends on your def of intelligence but if you mean something like how quickly you learn things then yea I agree

 

[mjölk]

It would be hard for someone to “follow in a conversation” (3.) without understanding what is being explained to them (1.)

there is no conversation to follow if i have to repeat my statement over and over.
Its basically never understanding (1) vs understanding but failing to apply it further in the conversation, changing your mind without telling, or even forgetting it completely (3)

 

[mjölk]

Depends on your def of intelligence but if you mean something like how quickly you learn things then yea I agree

indicators of intelligence comes in many different forms, but when judging someones character these three are my top picks because other ways would require tests or extensive understanding of the persons perspective and circumstances.

 

[sams872]

indicators of intelligence comes in many different forms, but when judging someones character these three are my top picks because other ways would require tests or extensive understanding of the persons perspective and circumstances.

Again you haven't defined intelligence you can't test something when you don't know what your testing for

 

[mjölk]

Again you haven't defined intelligence you can't test something when you don't know what your testing for

Well I guess the 1st applies to you

 

[zaycism]

 

[ChadCore]

No, there is a difference between being stuck in one place and having a moving conversation only to have to go back later.
I think 3rd is actually way worse as well because they have actually agreed/understood/responded to you but then completely forgot to apply it to the equation later on.

I can tell you how I determine whether people are unintelligent, and it’s how they portray their ideas: you are obviously trying to act like you’re higher IQ than you are - using “agreed/understood/responded” when a single word would've been more efficient.

+ your bad grammar - “I think 3rd is way worse…”. Next time remember that people with a high IQ don’t make simple mistakes like forgetting to include “the” in their sentences.

there is no conversation to follow if i have to repeat my statement over and over.
Its basically never understanding (1) vs understanding but failing to apply it further in the conversation, changing your mind without telling, or even forgetting it completely (3)

If an individual is unable to understand your explanation, then you clearly don’t posses the ability to adapt your explanations based one who is listening - for example, simplifying it for an individual. I want to clarify your three points do make sense, but doesn’t change the fact that you aren’t as smart as you believe to be - like your repetitive usage of “stupid”. Next time come up with a wider variety of adjectives please.

And your whole thread is water

 

[sams872]

Well I guess the 1st applies to you

Just tell me what you think intelligence means, I promise you this is relevant. Me asking you what you testing for dosent show any lack of understanding

 

[sams872]

I can tell you how I determine whether people are unintelligent, and it’s how they portray their ideas: you are obviously trying to act like you’re higher IQ than you are - using “agreed/understood/responded” when a single word would've been more efficient.

+ your bad grammar - “I think 3rd is way worse…”. Next time remember that people with a high IQ don’t make simple mistakes like forgetting to include “the” in their sentences.


If an individual is unable to understand your explanation, then you clearly don’t posses the ability to adapt your explanations based one who is listening - for example, simplifying it for an individual. I want to clarify your three points do make sense, but doesn’t change the fact that you aren’t as smart as you believe to be - like your repetitive usage of “stupid”. Next time come up with a wider variety of adjectives please.

And your whole thread is water

So again all of this reasoning is presupposing a definition of intelligence which involves the amount of knowledge you currently have, if your definition is iq then it has nothing to do with vocabulary or grammar in any way

 

[mjölk]

I can tell you how I determine whether people are unintelligent, and it’s how they portray their ideas: you are obviously trying to act like you’re higher IQ than you are - using “agreed/understood/responded” when a single word would've been more efficient.

+ your bad grammar - “I think 3rd is way worse…”. Next time remember that people with a high IQ don’t make simple mistakes like forgetting to include “the” in their sentences.

Ok so you judge people intelligence on grammar. I would say thats even worse than on knowledge tbh.

If an individual is unable to understand your explanation, then you clearly don’t posses the ability to adapt your explanations based one who is listening

A stupid person is someone who doesnt catch it no matter how many times you change your explanation. Thats the whole point of point 1.

 

[Overthrown]

Thread full of Indian basement dwellers

 

[mjölk]

Thread full of Indian basement dwellers

its like they linked the thread on reddit or something

 

[sams872]

Thread full of Indian basement dwellers

Foids are forced to use appearance in arguments no matter the context it's acc ridiculous

 

[ChadCore]

Ok so you judge people intelligence on grammar. I would say thats even worse than on knowledge tbh.


A stupid person is someone who doesnt catch it no matter how many times you change your explanation. Thats the whole point of point 1.

Haha, grammar is absolutely a factor to take into consideration, especially if your points are obvious - intelligence is not just the idea your trying to convey, but the way you convey it

 

[ChadCore]

Ok so you judge people intelligence on grammar. I would say thats even worse than on knowledge tbh.


A stupid person is someone who doesnt catch it no matter how many times you change your explanation. Thats the whole point of point 1.

Again my points are not to discredit your ideas - they are water, my points are being made to show you aren’t intelligent enough to look down on others

 

[mjölk]

grammar is absolutely a factor to take into consideration

grammar is a subset of knowledge. A person who studied grammar for 20 years could be as unintelligent/intelligent as someone who studied math for 20 years and knows no grammar.

but the way you convey it

That would mean that any person with a “social handicap” or difficulty speaking to people are automatically unintelligent. This includes autistic people.

 

[emeraldpill]

Dnrd, if their name is hairy cat

 

[TFC]

I agree (although you don’t have to like the topic to talk about it) but for the most part your right

 

[sams872]

grammar is a subset of knowledge. A person who studied grammar for 20 years could be as unintelligent/intelligent as someone who studied math for 20 years and knows no grammar.

That would mean that any person with a “social handicap” or difficulty speaking to people are automatically unintelligent. This includes autistic people.

He's not able to define intelligence, to him it just means the traits that he surpasses others at

 

[mjölk]

you don’t have to like the topic to talk about it

how do you even get to that conclusion
in what way did i say that

 

[ChadCore]

grammar is a subset of knowledge. A person who studied grammar for 20 years could be as unintelligent/intelligent as someone who studied math for 20 years and knows no grammar.

That would mean that any person with a “social handicap” or difficulty speaking to people are automatically unintelligent. This includes autistic people.

And how does being autistic affect online grammar? obviously not talking about irl grammar - please make some inferences you r****d.

My point of grammar was used because its my only way gauging your intelligence, but if you want me to do some research on your posts and point out some of your ideologies that make you retarded then I can.

 

[ChadCore]

He's not able to define intelligence, to him it just means the traits that he surpasses others at

Can you stop repeating this point of defining intelligence. It is the ability to acquire knowledge, and then apply it. What relevance does the definition of intelligence have to me and @HairyCat s conversation?

 

[scotfield]

1. and 3. are pretty much the same point

So op is just stupid

 

[ChadCore]

grammar is a subset of knowledge. A person who studied grammar for 20 years could be as unintelligent/intelligent as someone who studied math for 20 years and knows no grammar.

Did you read the part where I said ‘factor’?
Do you know what a factor is?

 

[ChadCore]

So op is just stupid

Please read the rest of the thread before jumping to a conclusion. Typical low IQ behaviour

 

[mjölk]

And how does being autistic affect online grammar?

Did you notice how i mentioned autism under a different quotation of you not related to grammar.

you r****d.

both being obnoxious and the simple misunderstanding from you above I would say are better indications of poor thinking skills than grammar.

My point of grammar was used because its my only way gauging your intelligence

And lets consider a hypothetical where I was speaking chinese in this post. Does it make sense to judge you as unintelligent because your chinese grammar and spelling is poor, or are you able to think clearly and understand things in your own language? This doesnt just stop at you not being able to tell whos first language is english or not, but grammar is something you take time to learn. Any harmful or harmless circumstance unknown to you couldve prevented that learning.

 

[ChadCore]

Also you’ve pinpointed my idea on grammar, when I meant it as a side note, hence the ‘+’ before the point on it

 

[mjölk]

So op is just stupid

there is no conversation to follow if i have to repeat my statement over and over.
Its basically never understanding (1) vs understanding but failing to apply it further in the conversation, changing your mind without telling, or even forgetting it completely (3)

 

[ChadCore]

Did you notice how i mentioned autism under a different quotation of you not related to grammar.

both being obnoxious and the simple misunderstanding from you above I would say are better indications of poor thinking skills than grammar.


And lets consider a hypothetical where I was speaking chinese in this post. Does it make sense to judge you as unintelligent because your chinese grammar and spelling is poor, or are you able to think clearly and understand things in your own language? This doesnt just stop at you not being able to tell whos first language is english or not, but grammar is something you take time to learn. Any harmful or harmless circumstance unknown to you couldve prevented that learning.

How many times are you gonna talk about when I said grammar JFL?

Did you read the part where I said ‘factor’?
Do you know what a factor is?

Also you’ve pinpointed my idea on grammar, when I meant it as a side note, hence the ‘+’ before the point on it

 

[pauseboicarti]

I see many people on here who judge other peoples intelligence by the amount of relevant knowledge they have, or even the amount if agreeable opinions.

I wont even speak about judging based on opinions, but for knowledge, any stupid person can type a google search or ask chat gpt about the current topic. Any stupid person can do their research or have an interest in the topic. You will never know who took 1 hour to learn something, and who took 1 week to learn the same thing.


I can tell when someone is less intelligent by:

1. Their ability to understand simple concepts when explained to them
When it comes to logic. They dont need to agree with you neither does it need to be part of a debate, but stupid people will often respond to your statement with something that requires you to repeat your statement instead of refuting you, simply because they dont understand the contradiction or distinction.

2. How enthusiastic they are about certain concepts
For example, if a stupid person learns a new fact or topic, they will often exaggerate the importance of that fact or the complexity of the topic. The fact is most likely a fun fact with very little importance in the equation, but since they just wanna talk about their newly learnt fact and seem smart, they will speak about it as if it contributes more to the product than it actually does. If it is a topic, it could be something that we all couldve understood by a 2 sentence explanation, but that they see the need to write an essay about.

3. Their ability to follow in a conversation
When talking to stupid people, you will often have to keep going back in the conversation after realising they didnt understand something. The conversation first moves at a normal phase because you keep moving on to the next sub-topic, but eventually you will get stuck and have to look back in the convo to re-explain something that they have already responded to and seemingly understood, because they contradicted that explanation 10 messages later. Then the going back and fourth will confuse them even further and the conversation will be impossible to conclude.

@arya @PingPong @necrotic @Newday

4. Dark skin complexion

 

[mjölk]

How many times are you gonna talk about when I said grammar JFL?

I was literally quoting to you talking about grammar

 

[mjölk]

“quick quick lets move on so I dont have to admitt I was wrong about the grammar”

 

[ChadCore]

I was literally quoting to you talking about grammar

Because you keep nitpicking at my original point on it? Let’s put our thinking caps on please

 

[ChadCore]

“quick quick lets move on so I dont have to admitt I was wrong about the grammar”

I was correct in saying that it is a factor when gauging someones intelligence

 

[2R0I2P0]

I see many people on here who judge other peoples intelligence by the amount of relevant knowledge they have, or even the amount if agreeable opinions.

I wont even speak about judging based on opinions, but for knowledge, any stupid person can type a google search or ask chat gpt about the current topic. Any stupid person can do their research or have an interest in the topic. You will never know who took 1 hour to learn something, and who took 1 week to learn the same thing.


I can tell when someone is less intelligent by:

1. Their ability to understand simple concepts when explained to them
When it comes to logic. They dont need to agree with you neither does it need to be part of a debate, but stupid people will often respond to your statement with something that requires you to repeat your statement instead of refuting you, simply because they dont understand the contradiction or distinction.

2. How enthusiastic they are about certain concepts
For example, if a stupid person learns a new fact or topic, they will often exaggerate the importance of that fact or the complexity of the topic. The fact is most likely a fun fact with very little importance in the equation, but since they just wanna talk about their newly learnt fact and seem smart, they will speak about it as if it contributes more to the product than it actually does. If it is a topic, it could be something that we all couldve understood by a 2 sentence explanation, but that they see the need to write an essay about.

3. Their ability to follow in a conversation
When talking to stupid people, you will often have to keep going back in the conversation after realising they didnt understand something. The conversation first moves at a normal phase because you keep moving on to the next sub-topic, but eventually you will get stuck and have to look back in the convo to re-explain something that they have already responded to and seemingly understood, because they contradicted that explanation 10 messages later. Then the going back and fourth will confuse them even further and the conversation will be impossible to conclude.

@arya @PingPong @necrotic @Newday

the two depends, for example i get very excited when talking and analyzing periodic functions especially when we talk about the complex plane but i understand it's scope of utility is pretty limited. but to me is fun to think about.

the first one could also be a red herring, as socrates famously did that, just for the other person walk himself into a contradicction

but the third is really real lol

 

[ChadCore]

But I can admit that grammar is not the most important metric when determining someones intelligence, but bad grammar is commonly found in low IQ individuals on forums such as these

 

[ChadCore]

But I can admit that grammar is not the most important metric when determining someones intelligence, but bad grammar is commonly found in low IQ individuals on forums such as these

Where the way of interacting with others is purely through portraying one’s opinions - I would not be wrong to say that the way it is done is/can be important in determining ones intelligence.

Again one factor of many

 

[2R0I2P0]

But I can admit that grammar is not the most important metric when determining someones intelligence, but bad grammar is commonly found in low IQ individuals on forums such as these

could be, honest to god that for most of the people here.

english isn't their native language

 

[mjölk]

Because you keep nitpicking at my original point on it? Let’s put our thinking caps on please

No, Ive literally been quoting you mentioning grammar yourself throughout the thread. You want me to look past your statements so bad when they are essential parts of the conversation.

I was correct in saying that it is a factor when gauging someones intelligence

Yet you havent been able to respond to any of the different explanations ive given you and just insulted + spammed the thread. Now youre even saying “why are you arguing back to the point I made I wanna talk about something else”. I hope youll reflect and learn something from this, have the year you deserve.

 

[ChadCore]

could be, honest to god that for most of the people here.

english isn't their native language

Either way OP of this thread thinks they’re smarter then they are

 

[ChadCore]

No, Ive literally been quoting you mentioning grammar yourself throughout the thread. You want me to look past your statements so bad when they are essential parts of the conversation.

Yet you havent been able to respond to any of the different explanations ive given you and just insulted + spammed the thread. Now youre even saying “why are you arguing back to the point I made I wanna talk about something else”. I hope youll reflect and learn something from this, have the year you deserve.

No, in my opinion I have given you enough reasons to stop talking about grammar, even as to go back on my point and say that it is only a metric.

 

[ChadCore]

could be, honest to god that for most of the people here.

english isn't their native language

Also I do want to make the point that English is not my native language either, and is my second