How to gain forward upper maxilla growth? (Without surgery)

[chudlyff]

Hi there! Looking to fix my flat upper maxilla. Are there any other ways than mewing? Thanks!!

 

[Incellite]

FME and pray lol idk if its possible

 

[chudlyff]

FME and pray lol idk if its possible

Can i have more info on FME?

 

[Incellite]

Can i have more info on FME?

The Facegenics Midface Expander (FME)—sometimes referred to as a Facial Maxillary Expansion device—is a non-surgical, bone-anchored orthodontic appliance used in the mouth to widen the upper jaw and midface in adults. It uses temporary anchorage devices (TADs) screwed directly into the palate bone to achieve skeletal expansion without major surgery. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Why People Get an FME

• • Airway & Breathing: Widening the nasal floor and palate to help with breathing issues, nasal congestion, or sleep-related breathing disorders like UARS. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
  • Bite Correction: Fixing a narrow upper jaw, crossbites, or crowded teeth by creating actual skeletal width rather than just tipping the teeth outward. [1, 2]
  • Tongue Space: Increasing the volume of the upper arch to provide more room for the tongue. [1]

How Treatment Works

• • Active Expansion (1–3 months): The appliance is turned or activated on a schedule to gradually split and widen the midpalatal and midface sutures. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Consolidation (6+ months): The device stays passive in the mouth while new bone fills in the expanded gap. [1, 2, 3]
  • Total Time: Overall treatment typically runs between 20 to 24 months, often paired with subsequent or concurrent orthodontics like braces. [1, 2]
  • Cost: Generally ranges from $5,000 to $10,000 depending on the provider and complexity. [1, 2]

FME vs. Other Skeletal Expanders

• • MARPE / MSE: MARPE is a general category of bone-anchored expansion, and MSE (Maxillary Skeletal Expander) is a specific design type. Users on online communities like Reddit discuss FME as an alternative to MSE, noting that FME uses uniquely angled front screws designed to engage thick bone plates, though individual palate anatomy dictates which option fits best. [1, 2, 3]
  • SARPE: Unlike SARPE (Surgically Assisted Rapid Palatal Expansion), the FME avoids hospital cuts and general anesthesia, though it requires specific anatomical suitability

 

[Incellite]

The Facegenics Midface Expander (FME)—sometimes referred to as a Facial Maxillary Expansion device—is a non-surgical, bone-anchored orthodontic appliance used in the mouth to widen the upper jaw and midface in adults. It uses temporary anchorage devices (TADs) screwed directly into the palate bone to achieve skeletal expansion without major surgery. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Why People Get an FME

• • Airway & Breathing: Widening the nasal floor and palate to help with breathing issues, nasal congestion, or sleep-related breathing disorders like UARS. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
  • Bite Correction: Fixing a narrow upper jaw, crossbites, or crowded teeth by creating actual skeletal width rather than just tipping the teeth outward. [1, 2]
  • Tongue Space: Increasing the volume of the upper arch to provide more room for the tongue. [1]

How Treatment Works

• • Active Expansion (1–3 months): The appliance is turned or activated on a schedule to gradually split and widen the midpalatal and midface sutures. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Consolidation (6+ months): The device stays passive in the mouth while new bone fills in the expanded gap. [1, 2, 3]
  • Total Time: Overall treatment typically runs between 20 to 24 months, often paired with subsequent or concurrent orthodontics like braces. [1, 2]
  • Cost: Generally ranges from $5,000 to $10,000 depending on the provider and complexity. [1, 2]

FME vs. Other Skeletal Expanders

• • MARPE / MSE: MARPE is a general category of bone-anchored expansion, and MSE (Maxillary Skeletal Expander) is a specific design type. Users on online communities like Reddit discuss FME as an alternative to MSE, noting that FME uses uniquely angled front screws designed to engage thick bone plates, though individual palate anatomy dictates which option fits best. [1, 2, 3]
  • SARPE: Unlike SARPE (Surgically Assisted Rapid Palatal Expansion), the FME avoids hospital cuts and general anesthesia, though it requires specific anatomical suitability

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[炎黄子孙 ㅤ]

Gaining forward upper maxilla growth non-surgically after puberty is widely considered skeletal cope in the blackpill/PSL community, as fused cranial sutures resist mechanical pressure. Realistically, adults cannot fundamentally remodel hard bone via tongue posture alone, but soft-tissue framing and minor dental tipping can create the illusion of a more projected midface.

The PSL Breakdown of Maxillary Importance

• • Midface Ratio: A forward-grown maxilla yields a compact, non-drooping nose, high cheekbones, and zero under-eye hollows.
  • The Halo Effect: Recessed maxillas cause structural collapse, downswing, and negative canthal tilt—termed "aesthetic death" in blackpill theory.

Non-Surgical Maxemizing Methods

• • Mewing (Oral Posture Baseline): Press the entire tongue—including the posterior third—flat against the roof of the palate. Keep teeth lightly touching and lips sealed with strict nasal breathing. This prevents further downward/backward gravity collapse, though true skeletal forward movement in adults is negligible.
  • Hardmaxxing Chewing: Incorporate heavy masticatory loading (mastic gum) to hypertrophy masseters. While it thickens the jaw muscle frame, it does not push the upper maxilla forward.
  • Postural Alignment: Eliminate forward head posture via chin tucks; a corrected cervical spine shifts overall cranial balance and tension on soft tissue underneath the jaw.
  • Minimally Invasive Appliances (Semi-Surgical/Orthopedic): Devices like MARPE/MSE (Maxillary Skeletal Expanders) or specialized ALF/Biobloc appliances can split sutures or prompt orthopedic changes, but these cross into clinical territory and carry structural risks.

If you'd like to proceed, let me know:

• Your approximate age (under 18 vs. over 21)
• Whether you have a narrow palate or crossbite

I can give you a more realistic breakdown of what appliances or soft-tissue strategies apply to your specific situation.

 

[chudlyff]

Gaining forward upper maxilla growth non-surgically after puberty is widely considered skeletal cope in the blackpill/PSL community, as fused cranial sutures resist mechanical pressure. Realistically, adults cannot fundamentally remodel hard bone via tongue posture alone, but soft-tissue framing and minor dental tipping can create the illusion of a more projected midface.

The PSL Breakdown of Maxillary Importance

• • Midface Ratio: A forward-grown maxilla yields a compact, non-drooping nose, high cheekbones, and zero under-eye hollows.
  • The Halo Effect: Recessed maxillas cause structural collapse, downswing, and negative canthal tilt—termed "aesthetic death" in blackpill theory.

Non-Surgical Maxemizing Methods

• • Mewing (Oral Posture Baseline): Press the entire tongue—including the posterior third—flat against the roof of the palate. Keep teeth lightly touching and lips sealed with strict nasal breathing. This prevents further downward/backward gravity collapse, though true skeletal forward movement in adults is negligible.
  • Hardmaxxing Chewing: Incorporate heavy masticatory loading (mastic gum) to hypertrophy masseters. While it thickens the jaw muscle frame, it does not push the upper maxilla forward.
  • Postural Alignment: Eliminate forward head posture via chin tucks; a corrected cervical spine shifts overall cranial balance and tension on soft tissue underneath the jaw.
  • Minimally Invasive Appliances (Semi-Surgical/Orthopedic): Devices like MARPE/MSE (Maxillary Skeletal Expanders) or specialized ALF/Biobloc appliances can split sutures or prompt orthopedic changes, but these cross into clinical territory and carry structural risks.

If you'd like to proceed, let me know:

• Your approximate age (under 18 vs. over 21)
• Whether you have a narrow palate or crossbite

I can give you a more realistic breakdown of what appliances or soft-tissue strategies apply to your specific situation

Under 18, my palate is alright

 

[炎黄子孙 ㅤ]

Under 18, my palate is alright

u aint getting any answer my shit ran out of tokens sorry bub

 

[chudlyff]

u aint getting any answer my shit ran out of tokens sorry bub

Its okay bro, thank u for helping!