Rage I dislike islam

[foidslayer]

I didnt study the truth of the religion and i didnt even bother to, the rulings they have on women were enough for me to hate that fucking religion

just debunked it btw

 

[leea]

Bukhari 6922
Hadith 14, 40 Hadith an-Nawawi
Quran 9:29

Okay enough no longer talking in this thread goodbye

Theres no point to eitherway, they could even justify murder

 

[foidslayer]

Ibn Kathīr (Shafi‘i) — Tafsīr al-Qur’ān al-ʿAẓīm, commentary on Qur’an 4:34. He says the husband may discipline her “without severe injuries”

non violently*

 

[leea]

There is an authentic hadith about apostasy that was traditionally understood by many scholars as prescribing a punishment (not actually death). But that's different from saying the Qur'an itself commands Muslims to kill anyone who simply leaves Islam. The Qur'an actually says “There is no compulsion in religion” (2:256)

it also says to follow the laws of the land you're in

There are "ex muslims" everywhere bro

I told you he was going to justify murder LMAO @Dzitsu

 

[foidslayer]

Theres no point to eitherway, they could even justify murder

we aren't justifying anything we're just debunking your claims

 

[foidslayer]

I told you he was going to justify murder LMAO @Dzitsu

how did i justify murder?

 

[cucklette]

its upsetting youre right ngl

 

[leea]

non violently*

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Even if it was a fucking slap , wich isnt the case because in quran men can discipline their wives with violence. They have no right to lay their hands on them

 

[foidslayer]

its upsetting youre right ngl

she isn't btw i just debunked everything

 

[foidslayer]

Even if it was a fucking slap , wich isnt the case because in quran men can discipline their wives with violence. They have no right to lay their hands on them

it isn't a slap its a light tap with a toothbrush that isn't allowed to leave a single mark (you can read right?)

 

[leea]

she isn't btw i just debunked everything

You just justified everything stop luring women into your misogynistic religion

 

[the lavo]

Compare non muslim and muslim women rights today, most outdated religion

b b b b b b b b but what about afganistan. not like its fucking held by taliban whos a extremist ideology. iran same thing literally best country to hold islams values is probably saudi arabia. UAE and Qatar maybe

 

[leea]

it isn't a slap its a light tap with a toothbrush that isn't allowed to leave a single mark (you can read right?)

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Where in quran it says toothbrush ? nowhere stop using ai slop to justify

 

[foidslayer]

You just justified everything stop luring women into your misogynistic religion

i didnt justify it i just explained how you're wrong

 

[leea]

b b b b b b b b but what about afganistan. not like its fucking held by taliban whos a extremist ideology. iran same thing literally best country to hold islams values is probably saudi arabia. UAE and Qatar maybe

Its always islam.

 

[leea]

i didnt justify it i just explained how you're wrong

You were just elaborating on these rulings lmao, never proved me wrong

 

[foidslayer]

Where in quran it says toothbrush ? nowhere stop using ai slop to justify

The hadith literally describes a “light strike” and gives an example along the lines of a miswak/toothbrush

 

[Venus]

Ur making it hard to stop typing jfl

There is an authentic hadith about apostasy that was traditionally understood by many scholars as prescribing a punishment (not actually death).

The Qur'an actually says “There is no compulsion in religion”

1. Blatant contradiction but okay

And 2. It says kill
Hadith 14, 40 Hadith an-Nawawi

On the authority of Ibn Masood who said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “It is not permissible to spill the blood of a Muslim except in three [instances]: the married person who commits adultery, a life for a life, and the one who forsakes his religion and separates from the community.”

And 3. How can you even slightly justify as “prescribing punishment” for leaving religion

Just debunked it my ass

 

[foidslayer]

You were just elaborating on these rulings lmao, never proved me wrong

not really you just can't read man

white woman in a first world country and illiterate

that's insane

 

[the lavo]

Its always islam.

what religion are you btw?

 

[the lavo]

not really you just can't read man

white woman in a first world country and illiterate

that's insane

theyre usually illiterate, one tiktok and they think they're a professional

 

[leea]

not really you just can't read man

white woman in a first world country and illiterate

that's insane

Qur’an 4:34 (Surah An-Nisa), English — Sahih International:
women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance—[first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.”
NEVER ONCE DOES IT SAY TOOTHBRUSH BRO

 

[foidslayer]

Ur making it hard to stop typing jfl


1. Blatant contradiction but okay

And 2. It says kill
Hadith 14, 40 Hadith an-Nawawi

On the authority of Ibn Masood who said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “It is not permissible to spill the blood of a Muslim except in three [instances]: the married person who commits adultery, a life for a life, and the one who forsakes his religion and separates from the community.”

And 3. How can you even slightly justify as “prescribing punishment” for leaving religion

Just debunked it my ass

Hadith says “forsakes his religion and separates from the community.” Classical scholars treated it as treason/political crime, not private belief change. Quran 2:256 still stands

 

[foidslayer]

Qur’an 4:34 (Surah An-Nisa), English — Sahih International:
women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance—[first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.”
NEVER ONCE DOES IT SAY TOOTHBRUSH BRO

Can you read what I said? It's in the hadith

 

[foidslayer]

what religion are you btw?

she's a white athiest lesbian

 

[leea]

what religion are you btw?

I dont follow man made religions

 

[Venus]

Hadith says “forsakes his religion and separates from the community.” Classical scholars treated it as treason/political crime, not private belief change. Quran 2:256 still stands

And we’re the illiterate ones jfl what’s said clearly means just leaving the religion and no longer being muslim

Enough begone

 

[leea]

Can you read what I said? It's in the hadith

Read the book verse

 

[foidslayer]

And we’re the illiterate ones jfl what’s said clearly means just leaving the religion and no longer being muslim

Enough begone

"Separates from the community" is right there in the hadith. Classical scholars didn’t ignore those words, you’re the one simplifying it

 

[foidslayer]

Read the book verse

Does it not also say to follow the messenger's teachings in the Qur'an?

 

[leea]

Does it not also say to follow the messenger's teachings in the Qur'an?

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“And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things…” — Qur’an 16:89
“A Book whose verses have been explained in detail…” — Qur’an 41:3

 

[the lavo]

she's a white athiest lesbian

lmfao atheism doesnt have morals. any true atheists is just a egoist. the rest rely on morals from religions as thats the only way law was was established was a given from a centralized moral standpoint via christians and then later muslims. if religion never existed it would be literall murder and r**e everywhere

 

[leea]

“And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things…” — Qur’an 16:89
“A Book whose verses have been explained in detail…” — Qur’an 41:3

Qur’an 6:114 (Surah Al-An'am):
“[Say], ‘Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail"

 

[foidslayer]

“And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things…” — Qur’an 16:89
“A Book whose verses have been explained in detail…” — Qur’an 41:3

Those verses don’t cancel the command to follow the Messenger. Quran also says ‘obey Allah and obey the Messenger’ multiple times. The Book is clarification, the Sunnah is how it was applied

you're so low iq it's killing my brain

 

[leea]

lmfao atheism doesnt have morals. any true atheists is just a egoist. the rest rely on morals from religions as thats the only way law was was established was a given from a centralized moral standpoint via christians and then later muslims. if religion never existed it would be literall murder and r**e everywhere

I dont need a religion to have morals

 

[foidslayer]

I dont need a religion to have morals

Cause clearly "women are superior to men" is having morals

 

[the lavo]

I dont need a religion to have morals

reddit atheism JFL. your morals come from religion

 

[leea]

Those verses don’t cancel the command to follow the Messenger. Quran also says ‘obey Allah and obey the Messenger’ multiple times. The Book is clarification, the Sunnah is how it was applied

you're so low iq it's killing my brain

THere is no proof that what the prophet said its true 1400 years after his death and those hadith narrators didnt even meet the prophet in person.
even the hadith says its permissible to correct your wife's behavior physically if she was arrogant..etc

 

[leea]

reddit atheism JFL. your morals come from religion

Theres also law btw. For you predatory r****d who justify r**e and murder and abuse in your religion

 

[aspiringpslgodess]

I wouldnt say im islamophobic tho i love muslim women and i truly feel sorry for them theyre mostly brainwashed to think their oppression is normal.


Women vs men clothing in islam :
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Rulings for the dear muslim women :
- if your husband asks for sex and you turn him down you will get bad deeds.
- your testimony is half a man's
- most of hell will be women
- you get half heritage of your brother
- you should obey your husband and he shouldnt obey you if he didnt want to
- you cant wear fake lashes, makeup, fake nails, hair extensions, pluck your eyebrows.
- if you wear perfume and a man smells it on you youre like a prostitute
- youre not allowed to travel alone.
- a man can divorce you, but you cant without a third party.
- youre not allowed to have a high power job, should always be under a man.
- your husband can have 4 wives.
- a man can marry a non muslim woman but you cant marry a non muslim man.
- you cant leave the house without husband's permission.
- you cant lead prayer, man should.
- your husband can beat you as long as he doesnt break your bones.

I genuinely teared up writing this. I cant belive its a woman's life right now this is so fucking sad. If a muslim woman is reading this i hope you can tell me why you think this is okay.
Even if islam was the real religion i would rather burn in hell than have no dignity and be seen as less than a man

i agree, no hate to muslims themselves but i don’t like their religion. tbf im an antitheist so i don’t like any sort of organized religion

 

[foidslayer]

THere is no proof that what the prophet said its true 1400 years after his death and those hadith narrators didnt even meet the prophet in person.
even the hadith says its permissible to correct your wife's behavior phisically if she was arrogant..etc

There's a whole science called علم الجرح والتعديل tracing every hadith through every person back to the Prophet

for hadith to be authentic the ENTIRE line has to be trustworthy known people with good memory

 

[foidslayer]

Theres also law btw. For you predatory r****d who justify r**e and murder and abuse in your religion

r**e, murder and abuse are haram actually

 

[Nenestar]

how old was she again?

 

[leea]

r**e, murder and abuse are haram actually

Marital r**e is r**e btw

 

[foidslayer]

how old was she again?

People back then counted age after puberty

What's 9 years after puberty?

Marital r**e is r**e btw

Yeah, marital r**e is haram

 

[leea]

There's a whole science called علم الجرح والتعديل tracing every hadith through every person back to the Prophet

for hadith to be authentic the ENTIRE line has to be trustworthy known people with good memory

this is still a historical methodology, not a guarantee of absolute certainty: scholars are evaluating reports about people who lived centuries ago, so there can always be uncertainty about whether a particular narration actually originated with the Prophet.
The qurann itself acknowledges that hypocrites existed among the people around the Prophet:
“And among those around you of the bedouins are hypocrites, and [also] from the people of Madinah. They are accustomed to hypocrisy. You do not know them, [but] We know them.”
— Qur’an 9:101

 

[the lavo]

i agree, no hate to muslims themselves but i don’t like their religion. tbf im an antitheist so i don’t like any sort of organized religion

anti theism is retarded without organized religion aka organized and centralized moral values laws would slowly be abolished as people would justify everything because "it doesnt matter in the end" nihlism egoism antinatalism Misanthropy would go rampant and it would be the end of the human race.

 

[leea]

People back then counted age after puberty

What's 9 years after puberty?

Yeah, marital r**e is haram

If a woman spends the night away from her husband’s bed, the angels curse her until she returns.”
There is also a related hadith in Sahih al-Bukhari 3237 and Sahih Muslim 1436, with wording about the husband becoming angry when his wife refuses his invitation to bed

 

[foidslayer]

this is still a historical methodology, not a guarantee of absolute certainty: scholars are evaluating reports about people who lived centuries ago, so there can always be uncertainty about whether a particular narration actually originated with the Prophet.
The qurann itself acknowledges that hypocrites existed among the people around the Prophet:
“And among those around you of the bedouins are hypocrites, and [also] from the people of Madinah. They are accustomed to hypocrisy. You do not know them, [but] We know them.”
— Qur’an 9:101

It's not even about islam historically they counted age differently

Besides one of the requirements for marriage is to be physically and mentally mature and ready

 

[leea]

anti theism is retarded without organized religion aka organized and centralized moral values laws would slowly be abolished as people would justify everything because "it doesnt matter in the end" nihlism egoism antinatalism Misanthropy would go rampant and it would be the end of the human race.

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