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Rage I dislike islam

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leea said:
Daraba literally means to strike and many scholars are now debating on how hard the striking should be.
4:34: As for those from whom you fear rebellion, advise them, then leave them alone in bed, then strike them. If they obey you, do not seek a way against them. Surely Allah is Most High, Most Great.”
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scholars and modern translators argue for meanings such as separation, ignoring, departing, or symbolic striking (non-violent), citing contextual flow, pre-Islamic poetry, and the Prophet Muhammad’s example of non-violence.

ye cause you know arabic more than an arab jfl
 
foidslayer said:
scholars and modern translators argue for meanings such as separation, ignoring, departing, or symbolic striking (non-violent), citing contextual flow, pre-Islamic poetry, and the Prophet Muhammad’s example of non-violence.

ye cause you know arabic more than an arab jfl
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Your muslim brother translated striking as leaving both if you are bullshitting
 
of course theres 8 fucking pages to this shit and 1k views
 
foidslayer said:
scholars and modern translators argue for meanings such as separation, ignoring, departing, or symbolic striking (non-violent), citing contextual flow, pre-Islamic poetry, and the Prophet Muhammad’s example of non-violence.

ye cause you know arabic more than an arab jfl
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Translation and definition exists
 
foidslayer said:
scholars and modern translators argue for meanings such as separation, ignoring, departing, or symbolic striking (non-violent), citing contextual flow, pre-Islamic poetry, and the Prophet Muhammad’s example of non-violence.

ye cause you know arabic more than an arab jfl
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Alright so whats the purpose of that striking to you?
 
foidslayer said:
"I'm lea and I know arabic better than arabs"
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He definitely understands it better than me, and hes saying this shit with a proud face.
"Wives need discipline" "its not recommended to not hit your wife at all"
 
leea said:

He definitely understands it better than me, and hes saying this shit with a proud face.
"Wives need discipline" "its not recommended to not hit your wife at all"
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its a small tap i understand why itd hurt your fragile ego tho
 
foidslayer said:
its a small tap i understand why itd hurt your fragile ego tho
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Hitting anyone is a humiliating act, and whats even the purpose of it, if you think it shouldnt "hurt"
 
leea said:
Just answer the damn question
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We answered it around 20 times for you. Maybe you should think to learn english; as you don't know the meaning of the words we're descending upon your futile existence.

Kind of embarrassing for you to be worse than me, considering it's your native tongue.
 
foidslayer said:
We answered it around 20 times for you. Maybe you should think to learn english; as you don't know the meaning of the words we're descending upon your futile existence.

Kind of embarrassing for you to be worse than me, considering it's your native tongue.
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I asked a whole different question, what is the purpose of that strike? You said it shouodnt hurt so what does it achieve
 
foidslayer said:
We answered it around 20 times for you. Maybe you should think to learn english; as you don't know the meaning of the words we're descending upon your futile existence.

Kind of embarrassing for you to be worse than me, considering it's your native tongue.
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I was born and raised in greece until i turned 15 how the fuck am i supposed to speak arabic
 
leea said:
I was born and raised in greece until i turned 15 how the fuck am i supposed to speak arabic
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Of course you're Greek. And I was talking about English
leea said:
I asked a whole different question, what is the purpose of that strike? You said it shouodnt hurt so what does it achieve
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We also answered it. You need to just read and understand (I apologize that the understanding part is hard for you)
 
foidslayer said:
Of course you're Greek. And I was talking about English

We also answered it. You need to just read and understand (I apologize that the understanding part is hard for you)
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No give me a simple answer you never answered this.
 
leea said:
No give me a simple answer you never answered this.
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It's just to show dissatisfaction
leea said:
Im not done here yet
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Lebron James Instagram GIF
 
leea said:
Use your fucking words instead?
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you do, the tap is just an extreme last resort if the behaviour continues for a prolonged period of time (a week or a couple days for example)
 
foidslayer said:
you do, the tap is just an extreme last resort if the behaviour continues for a prolonged period of time (a week or a couple days for example)
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Thats your interpretation of it, youre going agaisnt the scholars
 
Ibn Kathir interprets daraba here as a form of physical disciplinary action, but emphasizes that it should not be severe or injurious.
 
“As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them, then leave them alone in bed, then strike them. But if they obey you, seek no way against them.”
The verse is discussing marital conflict (nushuz), and Muslim scholars have differed over how daraba should be and applied.
 
leea said:
“As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them, then leave them alone in bed, then strike them. But if they obey you, seek no way against them.”
The verse is discussing marital conflict (nushuz), and Muslim scholars have differed over how daraba should be and applied.
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No they haven't differed

According to the most restrictive classical and modern interpretations, the maximum physical action permitted is a symbolic, non-painful tap.

  • Strict Conditions: The Quranic verse (4:34) is interpreted by many scholars as allowing a "light tap" (darb ghayra mubarrih) only as a last resort for persistent serious misconduct (nushuz), after verbal admonishment and separation have failed.
  • Physical Limits: This tap must not leave any marks, bruises, or cause pain. Classical scholars often specified using a small twig (miswak) or a folded handkerchief to ensure it was negligible.
  • Prohibition of Harm: Any strike that causes injury, leaves a mark, or hits the face is strictly forbidden and constitutes abuse.
  • Scholarly Preference: Many Islamic authorities and jurists consider the practice discouraged (makruh) or effectively banned, noting that the Prophet Muhammad never struck a woman and taught that the best men are those most kind to their wives.
  • Legal Recourse: If a husband exceeds these limits and causes harm, Islamic law considers it a transgression, and the wife has the right to seek justice or divorce.
 
foidslayer said:
No they haven't differed

According to the most restrictive classical and modern interpretations, the maximum physical action permitted is a symbolic, non-painful tap.

  • Strict Conditions: The Quranic verse (4:34) is interpreted by many scholars as allowing a "light tap" (darb ghayra mubarrih) only as a last resort for persistent serious misconduct (nushuz), after verbal admonishment and separation have failed.
  • Physical Limits: This tap must not leave any marks, bruises, or cause pain. Classical scholars often specified using a small twig (miswak) or a folded handkerchief to ensure it was negligible.
  • Prohibition of Harm: Any strike that causes injury, leaves a mark, or hits the face is strictly forbidden and constitutes abuse.
  • Scholarly Preference: Many Islamic authorities and jurists consider the practice discouraged (makruh) or effectively banned, noting that the Prophet Muhammad never struck a woman and taught that the best men are those most kind to their wives.
  • Legal Recourse: If a husband exceeds these limits and causes harm, Islamic law considers it a transgression, and the wife has the right to seek justice or divorce.
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This is disgusting
 
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