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Serious i find alot of religons flawed.

All abrahamic religions are entirely cope. An omnipotent, all loving God is not real, or possible.

Religions are purely created for the sake of control. Take Islam for example, it's very clearly skewed towards men's desires. They genuinely just created it as an excuse for their behaviours. The populaiisation of the religion shifted the culture and rules, as is the case in most societies.
 
trueceljester said:
so you can be a good person but unless they believe in coincidentally the same god that you believe in theyre going to hell
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Not necessarily, some people have never been educated about Christianity so I think they will be ok

But people who are “educated” and evaluated the evidence are most likely going to hell

Bad gamble I guess 🤷
 
Luxe said:
Not necessarily, some people have never been educated about Christianity so I think they will be ok

But people who are “educated” and evaluated the evidence are most likely going to hell

Bad gamble I guess 🤷
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so your eternity is decided by a gamble?
sounds not very all loving to me
 
Penalizer69 said:
All abrahamic religions are entirely cope. An omnipotent, all loving God is not real, or possible.

Religions are purely created for the sake of control. Take Islam for example, it's very clearly skewed towards men's desires. They genuinely just created it as an excuse for their behaviours. The populaiisation of the religion shifted the culture and rules, as is the case in most societies.
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I concur. They are also used for social cohesion and legitimacy of rule (ie: divine right of kings and caliphs)
 
He proposed pascal’s gambit and tried to use it as a genuine argument when its the lowest tier of proving the abrahamic god’s existence. He says its 50/50. If god is real, you believe in god and go to heaven or you burn in hell for not believing. If god isn’t real, nothing happens. But it’s simply not 50/50 or even 1%. Like it’s 2 scenarios that either happen or not so it should be 50/50 but simply not true. Two scenarios; i either get 1 million dollars tomorrow or i dont. Should be 50/50 if we go by one has to happen, but simply not how it works. There is no real “proof” for the Abrahamic God’s existence. History cannot be trusted as it is written by victors. Existence itself and creationism is a good argument for a god, but not for the specific abrahamic god. If pascal’s gambit proposes you believe you have a 50% of winning and if you dont believe you have a 0% of winning, heres my proposal; dedicate the only thing you will ever experience if god isn’t real (no proof for abrahamic god’s existence) to a religion or live the only thing you will ever experience to it’s fullest. Which one sounds better?
 
Luxe said:
Not necessarily, some people have never been educated about Christianity so I think they will be ok

But people who are “educated” and evaluated the evidence are most likely going to hell

Bad gamble I guess 🤷
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what evidence is there on christianity?
 
Luxe said:
Not necessarily, some people have never been educated about Christianity so I think they will be ok

But people who are “educated” and evaluated the evidence are most likely going to hell

Bad gamble I guess 🤷
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u literally made a thread abt how u love anal
 
Penalizer69 said:
All abrahamic religions are entirely cope. An omnipotent, all loving God is not real, or possible.

Religions are purely created for the sake of control. Take Islam for example, it's very clearly skewed towards men's desires. They genuinely just created it as an excuse for their behaviours. The populaiisation of the religion shifted the culture and rules, as is the case in most societies.
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Most organized religions are

But non-denominational Christianity is only about what the bible says

No governing body or anything

Most denominations of Christianity are corrupt
 
genio said:
He proposed pascal’s gambit and tried to use it as a genuine argument when its the lowest tier of proving the abrahamic god’s existence. He says its 50/50. If god is real, you believe in god and go to heaven or you burn in hell for not believing. If god isn’t real, nothing happens. But it’s simply not 50/50 or even 1%. Like it’s 2 scenarios that either happen or not so it should be 50/50 but simply not true. Two scenarios; i either get 1 million dollars tomorrow or i dont. Should be 50/50 if we go by one has to happen, but simply not how it works. There is no real “proof” for the Abrahamic God’s existence. History cannot be trusted as it is written by victors. Existence itself and creationism is a good argument for a god, but not for the specific abrahamic god. If pascal’s gambit proposes you believe you have a 50% of winning and if you dont believe you have a 0% of winning, heres my proposal; dedicate the only thing you will ever experience if god isn’t real (most likely) to a religion or live the only thing you will ever experience to it’s fullest. Which one sounds better?
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Luxe said:
Most organized religions are

But non-denominational Christianity is only about what the bible says

No governing body or anything

Most denominations of Christianity are corrupt
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There's no such thing as an omnipotent, all loving God as your book says.
 
Luxe said:
Very obviously fake

Created by Jews to make Jesus look fake
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@genio this thread was gonna be about pascals gambit and i actually have a comment on that, "If God exists, the believer gains infinite happiness (eternal life), while if God does not exist, the believer loses little; thus, the potential benefits outweigh the risks." the thing is theres multiple religions if not thousands so choosing the 1-1000 religion, being devoted and making your life centered towards that religion, having a fear of death, having guilt for sinning although were not perfect and all of that just for the SLIGHTEST chance that you picked the right religon and go to heaven, the probability is that youre not gonna be following the right religion and you devote your entire life to a religion for no benefits
 
Penalizer69 said:
Very good rebuttal bud

Just admit you're coping 🐧🚬
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“All-loving” “omnipotent” yet humans still suffer everyday
If hes omnipotent and all loving why not make us all blissful as shit because he loves us and can do anything
 
trueceljester said:
@genio this thread was gonna be about pascals gambit and i actually have a comment on that, "If God exists, the believer gains infinite happiness (eternal life), while if God does not exist, the believer loses little; thus, the potential benefits outweigh the risks." the thing is theres multiple religions if not thousands so choosing the 1-1000 religion, being devoted and making your life centered towards that religion, having a fear of death, having guilt for sinning although were not perfect and all of that just for the SLIGHTEST chance that you picked the right religon and go to heaven, the probability is that youre not gonna be following the right religion and you devote your entire life to a religion for no benefits
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Yes i agree and that is what i ask at the end of my text, although not as thoughtfully explained as you do here
Dedicate your whole existence to the slightest possibility or live it to its fullest?
Would be a better wording of my question
 
genio said:
“All-loving” “omnipotent” yet humans still suffer everyday
If hes omnipotent and all loving why not make us all blissful as shit because he loves us and can do anything
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there is a common theme of poetic suffering in religious texts so they generally turn a blind eye and just pull the free will card
 
Luxe said:
It might be

But life is hard and the risk of hell doesn’t sound fun

I respect your faith to risk that tho 🍻
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Ik it's hard for Christians to believe but I can be a good person just because I want to be, I don't need threats to convince me. 1 in 1 billion chance btw, actually likely smaller.

The fact your God only allows believers into heaven literally debunks the all loving claim aswell
 
Penalizer69 said:
All abrahamic religions are entirely cope. An omnipotent, all loving God is not real, or possible.

Religions are purely created for the sake of control. Take Islam for example, it's very clearly skewed towards men's desires. They genuinely just created it as an excuse for their behaviours. The populaiisation of the religion shifted the culture and rules, as is the case in most societies.
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i fuck goat not wife and beat kid with ak
 
Oh by the way guys @Penalizer69 @trueceljester Luxe is a n***a who will say asking clarifying questions in an argument is retarded
Dont ask him questions to try to gain insight from his perspective guys
Dont try to understand him just argue with him because thats what all arguments are aboutt
 
genio said:
Oh by the way guys @Penalizer69 @trueceljester Luxe is a n***a who will say asking clarifying questions in an argument is retarded
Dont ask him questions to try to gain insight from his perspective guys
Dont try to understand him just argue with him because thats what all arguments are aboutt
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hes a tiktok fagggot, no shit hes nonsentient and ogre brained.
 
genio said:
Oh by the way guys @Penalizer69 @trueceljester Luxe is a n***a who will say asking clarifying questions in an argument is retarded
Dont ask him questions to try to gain insight from his perspective guys
Dont try to understand him just argue with him because thats what all arguments are aboutt
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@UseAdHomines desciple
 
Penalizer69 said:
Ik it's hard for Christians to believe but I can be a good person just because I want to be, I don't need threats to convince me. 1 in 1 billion chance btw, actually likely smaller.

The fact your God only allows believers into heaven literally debunks the all loving claim aswell
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Maybe

I find it funny a human thinks he can understand a mystical deity that literally created the universe, pretty sure our small human brains can’t understand half of the stuff he does. I know that I know nothing 🤷
 
Luxe said:
Maybe

I find it funny a human thinks he can understand a mystical deity that literally created the universe, pretty sure our small human brains can’t understand half of the stuff he does. I know that I know nothing 🤷
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Why are you describing me lol this is exactly how i seem in your eyes isnt it 😆😆
Low iq ass n***a youre a chimp in my godly eyes
 
Luxe said:
Maybe

I find it funny a human thinks he can understand a mystical deity that literally created the universe, pretty sure our small human brains can’t understand half of the stuff he does. I know that I know nothing 🤷
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I know for a fact he's either not omnipotent or not all good. Not necessarily that there's no God.
 
Penalizer69 said:
I know for a fact he's either not omnipotent or not all good. Not necessarily that there's no God.
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Exactly. I believe there is a god, but not in the abrahamic god.
 
trueceljester said:
fearing death because "you might go to hell" and being in a state of fear just for what? i kinda wanna see the viewpoint of some religons because i really dont understand how and why people blindly follow religions like this if they have nothing to gain

and YES this is inspired by the thread @Luxe made
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All religions are flawed that’s the whole point . Even tho all are flawed and not provable ( logically) people still believe . That’s faith obviously. If they were not flawed and were provable it would just be factual which doesn’t involve faith so it would not be a religion .
 
I’m not even trying to argue bro 🥹

I understand you guys believe other stuff 🤦

For future reference I DONT CARE DO WHATEVER YOU WANT LOL
 
Luxe said:
I’m not even trying to argue bro 🥹

I understand you guys believe other stuff 🤦

For future reference I DONT CARE DO WHATEVER YOU WANT LOL
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n***a you know you care you can say you dont but you care enough to try to enforce your beliefs so
 
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