I miss Charlie Kirk

[BlendedBulge]

I know some people who would disagree but I don't let my opinions dictate my relations with people as we are all souls just coming from different paths in life


R.I.P Charlie Kirk

Agreed

 

[emerald]

He is like anybody that dies in every second

how does that mean people can’t be upset he died/miss him etc

the argument he is the same as a random child in africa is so pathetic because obviously your emotion towards the death of someone you don’t know and the death of someone you do will be different

 

[AXII.CO]

no i dont just like i dont care abt charlie bru stop tryna make urself seem like a good person

I never done anything to be seen as "good"

I just stated my opinion lol

 

[vespertine]

What do you disagree

I mean what is your world view

how should things systematically work

he was a guy who held beliefs, like everyone, and was killed for it. its tragic but i wouldn't say he was doing much good for the world. my criticism is not of him and his beliefs but of your wording. i find it odd to "miss" him

 

[dipenhydramine]

I never done anything to be seen as "good"

I just stated my opinion lol

you dont miss him blud you dont actually give a shit in reality

 

[n4evis]

What happened to Charlie Kirk happens in Gaza every single day

 

[gimp]

how does that mean people can’t be upset he died/miss him etc

the argument he is the same as a random child in africa is so pathetic because obviously your emotion towards the death of someone you don’t know and the death of someone you do will be different

I don’t know him ?
And also the death of someone that he also know you is which will be different

 

[long ass username]

I don’t care , I don’t know him

 

[vespertine]

he was a guy who held beliefs, like everyone, and was killed for it. its tragic but i wouldn't say he was doing much good for the world. my criticism is not of him and his beliefs but of your wording. i find it odd to "miss" him

*my criticism of him in this instance in the context of this discussion. a lot of his beliefs i disagreed with

 

[Penalizer69]

I don’t know him ?
And also the death of someone that he also know you is which will be different

People claiming they "know" celebrities holy cage

Fuck the media and parasocial relationships tbh

 

[emerald]

I don’t know him ?
And also the death of someone that he also know you is which will be different

obviously using the impersonal you not talking about you (jess)

 

[AXII.CO]

he was a guy who held beliefs, like everyone, and was killed for it. its tragic but i wouldn't say he was doing much good for the world. my criticism is not of him and his beliefs but of your wording. i find it odd to "miss" him

I Don't see how that's odd at all

It's just nature to "miss" somebody who died who held the same beliefs or at lest someone who could hold a challenge to something

he was a dude who challenged groups of people "alone" and never backed down on his words

there isn't many people like that - at least some with a backbone or a platform (not limit to one as large as his) that I could view and others who could agree to watch either


- It's not weird to miss somebody for who they were

 

[AXII.CO]

People claiming they "know" celebrities holy cage

Fuck the media and parasocial relationships tbh

Your entire life is based on parasocial relations

Nobody truly could care about someone else more than they can themselves

you are just saying neutral based nonsense

 

[geneticCage]

I agreed with him on a lot of things, but didn't like him much, cause he was sponsored by AIPAC (and I prefer Nick Fuentes more)
But this is sad indeed, and I don't get people who celebrate his death. Nobody should die because of expressing an opinion.
A lot of people in social media laugh and celebrate his death... And it's truly sickening.

 

[emerald]

People claiming they "know" celebrities holy cage

Fuck the media and parasocial relationships tbh

Do you have nobody ‘famous’ that your views align with? or look up to in any sense? even just enjoy their presence in media?

 

[vespertine]

I Don't see how that's odd at all

It's just nature to "miss" somebody who died who held the same beliefs or at lest someone who could hold a challenge to something

he was a dude who challenged groups of people "alone" and never backed down on his words

there isn't many people like that - at least some with a backbone or a platform (not limit to one as large as his) that I could view and others who could agree to watch either


- It's not weird to miss somebody for who they were

yeah i see what you're saying.

one comment though. when he "challenged "groups of people though he was challenging emotional college social justice warrior-type of people. the bottom of the barrel of leftism. that's hardly admirable. it would have been more respectable if he debated actual "intellectuals" representing the left

 

[Ghoultune]

He would give a gummy blowjob

 

[Penalizer69]

Do you have nobody ‘famous’ that your views align with? or look up to in any sense? even just enjoy their presence in media?

Ok and I don't form any attachment or care for them, they could be and likely are horrible people putting on a mask

 

[我愛羅]

n***a saying this like that was they daddy or something.

 

[AXII.CO]

yeah i see what you're saying.

one comment though. when he "challenged "groups of people though he was challenging emotional college social justice warrior-type of people. the bottom of the barrel of leftism. that's hardly admirable. it would have been more respectable if he debated actual "intellectuals" representing the left

Well that wasn't really his goal

his point was to go around to public spaces to get the day to day person to try to challenge their own beliefs
not even really a shut down as he gave everybody an equal chance to speak for themselves

He really was just proving that the average day to day couldn't even hold an argument with any weight if that makes sense

I see what you mean though don't get me wrong

 

[emerald]

Ok and I don't form any attachment or care for them, they could be and likely are horrible people putting on a mask

Why is that the likely case? pessimism for no reason

regardless you’re free to do that as are other people free to form attachment to celebrities or people in the media - i don’t see how there’s an issue with it

 

[BlendedBulge]

How can you be happy for someone to get murdered like that in front of their kids and wife

This guy haven’t done anything inherently bad

You can disagree with his opinions but he never deserved it

 

[gimp]

free to form attachment to celebrities or people in the media - i don’t see how there’s an issue with it

Yeah you free being and NPC

 

[Penalizer69]

Why is that the likely case? pessimism for no reason

You think people get into power without getting their hands dirty? He has ties to trump that says it all really

I won't get into why parasocial relationships are bad it's far too much to get into and if you care you can look into it yourself

 

[我愛羅]

Why is that the likely case? pessimism for no reason

regardless you’re free to do that as are other people free to form attachment to celebrities or people in the media - i don’t see how there’s an issue with it

That’s not pessimism? That’s not developing the ideology that you and your idol have some sort of connection. Parasocial even.

Of course, people have free will but unhealthy attachment is not deemed okay?

 

[emerald]

You think people get into power without getting their hands dirty? He has ties to trump that says it all really

I won't get into why parasocial relationships are bad it's far too much to get into and if you care you can look into it yourself

i am not talking specifically about charlie kirk, we were talking about celebrities in general

 

[emerald]

That’s not pessimism? That’s not developing the ideology that you and your idol have some sort of connection. Parasocial even.

Of course, people have free will but unhealthy attachment is not deemed okay?

did you even read what i replied to? the idea that anyone famous is likely a bad person putting on a mask is absolutely pessimistic lol

 

[Penalizer69]

i am not talking specifically about charlie kirk, we were talking about celebrities in general

Yes that goes with anyone you don't get into power and hang around these people without seeing, particapating and doing bad things. Also like I said it's just the fact that I don't know them at all

 

[AXII.CO]

You think people get into power without getting their hands dirty? He has ties to trump that says it all really

I won't get into why parasocial relationships are bad it's far too much to get into and if you care you can look into it yourself

That’s not pessimism? That’s not developing the ideology that you and your idol have some sort of connection. Parasocial even.

Of course, people have free will but unhealthy attachment is not deemed okay?

You guys are taking my words wrong

I don't feel connected to the guy in anyway except I would just miss to see more of his views and how they would evolve overtime
you can take that away from the person and the my claim would still mean what it means

OF course nobody should form a delusional "relation" with somebody

but that's entirely different form seeing eye to eye and wanting to see how things would unfold

 

[TonyDr]

I know some people who would disagree but I don't let my opinions dictate my relations with people as we are all souls just coming from different paths in life


R.I.P Charlie Kirk

It started criticizing zionists, israel and epstein weeks ago, and started to fear Nick Fuentes, it was a matter of time before he got perma silenced

 

[emerald]

Yes that goes with anyone you don't get into power and hang around these people without seeing, particapating and doing bad things. Also like I said it's just the fact that I don't know them at all

if you mean politics specifically then sure most people in any power have likely turned a blind eye to something

 

[我愛羅]

did you even read what i replied to? the idea that anyone famous is likely a bad person putting on a mask is absolutely pessimistic lol

That’s not pessimistic. That’s just reality, it’s not like she said directly that they are. She just made the assumption. Why put your trust in a celebrity that they MAY be a good person when you don’t know them? Just stay neutral towards them.

 

[我愛羅]

You guys are taking my words wrong

I don't feel connected to the guy in anyway except I would just miss to see more of his views and how they would evolve overtime
you can take that away from the person and the my claim would still mean what it means

OF course nobody should form a delusional "relation" with somebody

but that's entirely different form seeing eye to eye and wanting to see how things would unfold

I wasn’t replying to you.

 

[AXII.CO]

I wasn’t replying to you.

You are under my thread bud don't get angsty

 

[emerald]

That’s not pessimistic. That’s just reality, it’s not like she said directly that they are. She just made the assumption. Why put your trust in a celebrity that they MAY be a good person when you don’t know them? Just stay neutral towards them.

neutrality would be assuming that there are an equal proportion of good and bad famous people as there are good and bad normal people

 

[我愛羅]

You are under my thread bud don't get angsty

I still wasn’t replying to you?

 

[Penalizer69]

neutrality would be assuming that there are an equal proportion of good and bad famous people as there are good and bad normal people

Most people are bad + power and money brings out the worst in people there's been experiments about this

 

[Deleted Member 74478]

he died doing what he loved. smurfing in debates with college students

LMFAO

 

[我愛羅]

neutrality would be assuming that there are an equal proportion of good and bad famous people as there are good and bad normal people

Yeah so, I never directly stated if I believed all of them are bad and I don’t think she did either. I said possibility/may which literally is being neutral n***a. They MAY be bad still leaves the assumption that they also may be good.

 

[emerald]

Most people are bad + power and money brings out the worst in people there's been experiments about this

what experiment has there been to determine that most people are bad?


2nd point i still doubt there’s been an experiment but sure

 

[Penalizer69]

what experiment has there been to determine that most people are bad?


2nd point i still doubt there’s been an experiment but sure

Stanford Prison Experiment | History, Summary, & Facts | Britannica https://share.google/FJPTvIupzwOiP3wzq

 

[emerald]

Yeah so, I never directly stated if I believed all of them are bad and I don’t think she did either. I said possibility/may which literally is being neutral n***a. They MAY be bad still leaves the assumption that they also may be good.

I don’t care what you said, i didn’t call you pessimistic. originally it was said they are likely bad which assumes that more than 50% are bad people

 

[Deleted Member 38053]

I know some people who would disagree but I don't let my opinions dictate my relations with people as we are all souls just coming from different paths in life


R.I.P Charlie Kirk

Ydk him

 

[我愛羅]

I don’t care what you said, i didn’t call you pessimistic. originally it was said they are likely bad which assumes that more than 50% are bad people

That’s still being neutral? 50% or more than 50% isn’t all. @over0 Are you seeing this bro.

 

[emerald]

Stanford Prison Experiment | History, Summary, & Facts | Britannica https://share.google/FJPTvIupzwOiP3wzq

an experiment where all participants literally signed up to go to prison? you don’t think they would be inherently worse people?

 

[vespertine]

what experiment has there been to determine that most people are bad?


2nd point i still doubt there’s been an experiment but sure

Milgram’s Obedience Experiment (1960s, Yale)
The Third Wave (1967, a California high school)
Bystander Effect Studies (1960s, Darley & Latané)
Robbers Cave Experiment (1954, Sherif)
Deindividuation studies: Zimbardo (1969)

 

[Penalizer69]

an experiment where all participants literally signed up to go to prison? you don’t think they would be inherently worse people?

They ran tests to make sure they were yeah

And I don't see the correlation anyway, they likely joined just for the benefits

 

[emerald]

That’s still being neutral? 50% or more than 50% isn’t all. @over0 Are you seeing this bro.

are you a fucking r****d? pessimism doesn’t have to be the assumption that EVERY famous person is a bad person

more than proportional to the population would still be a negative outlook (pessimism)

 

[Jeezy]

N***as yapping about a dead conservative influencer on a looksmaxxing forum. I’m out here measuring a CT scan of my ramus’s

 

[emerald]

They ran tests to make sure they were yeah

And I don't see the correlation anyway, they likely joined just for the benefits

$15 a day

never mind forgot how long ago it was