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I really need to get rid of my incel mentality.

Thank you, I appreciate that! And maybe you’re right. How would you feel if the ugly male teacher asked you how your day went? It’s required of my teacher program to socialize with the students, forming a social relationship with them, that’s why I’m posting about this.
I don’t really think of my teacher as ugly or not ugly 😭 I would be pretty happy if any of my professors asked how my day was going cuz they don’t care abt my ah
 
Well it wouldn't be for anxiety it be more used for ADHD dextroamphetamine even tho it's hard to get where I live
Where do you live bhai?
 
I don’t really think of my teacher as ugly or not ugly 😭 I would be pretty happy if any of my professors asked how my day was going cuz they don’t care abt my ah
Well how was your day abi?
 
Oh dude, good-looking teachers have it so good. Not because they have students crushing on them, but because they don’t need to learn classroom management. They never have to deal with a rowdy classroom and if they do, the female students will tell the male students to STFU. I had it happen when I was a student and our class was so annoying but as soon as we had a hot guy teacher, suddenly all the girls were paying attention and telling the boys to stfu. If this was the 2020s, they’d tell us to “sybau.” Luckily I won’t have to deal with what your student teacher dealt with since I’m ugly as fuck lol.
teenage boys are so roudy and it pisses me off they need someone to tell them to stfu its healthy for development:)
maybe its just me but i was given the "children should be seen and not heard" kind of parenting so i never acted that way
 
Well how was your day abi?
Not too bad 😛 I had fun talking to people in my phone all day instead of doing any actual studying 🤔🤔 I just had some sushi and boba cried for a bit and now I’m laying in the dark
 
As many of you know, I’m a student teacher currently. However, I don’t socialize with any of the female students; only the male students. It’s a mix of wanting to be careful but mainly because I think they don’t want me to socialize with them. But I realize it’s not the right thing to do; I have to be completely neutral. What do you guys think? BTW, I don’t discriminate against the female students otherwise, just in socializing because my incel mindset thinks they don’t want the ugly male teacher to socialize with them even though it’s strictly professional.
wait ur a teacher

highschool or wat
 
teenage boys are so roudy and it pisses me off they need someone to tell them to stfu its healthy for development:)
maybe its just me but i was given the "children should be seen and not heard" kind of parenting so i never acted that way
They do say that boys are immature. I can see why. But if you ask me… I think even adults are immature. It just manifests itself differently. You’ll understand when you get older. Well parents who care will usually tell their kids that, so that means you have parents who care. A lot of parents don’t even know how to parent anymore. Many teachers are complaining about it.
 
Not too bad 😛 I had fun talking to people in my phone all day instead of doing any actual studying 🤔🤔 I just had some sushi and boba cried for a bit and now I’m laying in the dark
Sushi!! Ahh I wanted to order some sushi yesterday but the place was booked so I didn’t get to. Also why were you crying? If you don’t mind sharing. But anyway I’m glad you had fun talking to people. Make sure not to entirely neglect your studies either btw!
 
i read it backwards i thought you said you ignored the guys and only focused on the girls jfl
Oh hell naw that’s fucking creepy. Are you a guy? If not I would ask: if you had an ugly male teacher and they asked how your day went or whatever, would you hate that? That’s how I currently feel.
 
wait ur a teacher

highschool or wat
Yeah bhai I am a student teacher, and I’m teaching in high school but it’s 7th grade as we don’t have middle schools here; high school is grades 7-12 here.
 
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I’m all out of things to say we have been talking for hours 😭
Ask “which part of the game was the most fun?” And then ask “why do you think that?”
 
Sushi!! Ahh I wanted to order some sushi yesterday but the place was booked so I didn’t get to. Also why were you crying? If you don’t mind sharing. But anyway I’m glad you had fun talking to people. Make sure not to entirely neglect your studies either btw!
I’m not gonna sleep tonight so I can study that’s why I’m napping now. I think I’ve been crying lately cause I’ve been skipping the meds that usually put me to sleep I’m not particularly sad abt anything
 
Yeah bhai I am a student teacher, and I’m teaching in high school but it’s 7th grade as we don’t have middle schools here; high school is grades 7-12 here.
makes sense u kinda talk like a teacher

just funny jfl imagine ur teacher is on looksmax.org
 
Oh hell naw that’s fucking creepy. Are you a guy? If not I would ask: if you had an ugly male teacher and they asked how your day went or whatever, would you hate that? That’s how I currently feel.
i am not so i cannot answer this
 
I’m not gonna sleep tonight so I can study that’s why I’m napping now. I think I’ve been crying lately cause I’ve been skipping the meds that usually put me to sleep I’m not particularly sad abt anything
Glad to hear you’re not sad or anything. Oh you’ve got sleeping meds? I’ve got some too but I’m not using them at all. They’re benzos.
 
Glad to hear you’re not sad or anything. Oh you’ve got sleeping meds? I’ve got some too but I’m not using them at all. They’re benzos.
I’m supposed to take clonidine o every night to sleep but I just take more adderall and stay up instead
 
makes sense u kinda talk like a teacher

just funny jfl imagine ur teacher is on looksmax.org
I told one of my brother’s college friends who I’m cool with that I’m studying to become a teacher and he was like, yeah that totally fits you actually. Haha.

And the students are TikTokers, but I don’t think they’re blackpilled or anything. If they throw around BP terms I’m gonna join in on the fun but I won’t be encouraging them to join the forum or introduce them to the BP myself.
 
I’m supposed to take clonidine o every night to sleep but I just take more adderall and stay up instead
I’ve heard of clonidine. I’ve got… ugh.. I forgot the name.. let me look it up
 
Bhai just assume the best and ignore your intrusive thoughts as much as you can you got this
 
I’m supposed to take clonidine o every night to sleep but I just take more adderall and stay up instead
I’ve heard of clonidine. I’ve got… ugh.. I forgot the name.. let me look it up
Ahh, it’s called temazepam. My brother has Xanax and uhhh zopiclone.
 
i mean like yeah but we just go to the same school more than anything
we have mutuals tho
That’s so interesting, I’ve heard of guys knowing each other irl on .org but never of a male/female knowing each other irl on .com.
 
Bhai just assume the best and ignore your intrusive thoughts as much as you can you got this
Thank you for your words of encouragement bhaijaan, I appreciate it 😊 I admit it’s kind of hard to assume the best considering I’m a pessimistic nihilist lol.
 
Just stop framing yourself under categories and putting yourself in fake cages and you’ll be good then
You should change your username to Encouraging, thanks for the tips 🥰
 
Your appearance mainly effects initial opportunities / reactions, and people are able to see past your appearance. As in, if you're consistently nice, they will see you fondly regardless of how you look after a while. I wouldn't stress too much about it. Your appearance also doesn't matter too strongly for your job and for that age demographic. Most kids will be mean if they're going to be mean and will be nice if they're going to be nice, rarely has to do with the appearance of the teacher at that point.

You don't have to be close to the female students but the female classmates will struggle to warm up to you because of it, and you don't want to only be positively impacting 50% of your class beyond an educational standpoint. You might be a good teacher to them but you obviously recognize the impact of the social aspect and so you should focus on how your job is to be a positive impact on these kids lives rather than them being a positive impact on yours.
 
Your appearance mainly effects initial opportunities / reactions, and people are able to see past your appearance. As in, if you're consistently nice, they will see you fondly regardless of how you look after a while. I wouldn't stress too much about it. Your appearance also doesn't matter too strongly for your job and for that age demographic. Most kids will be mean if they're going to be mean and will be nice if they're going to be nice, rarely has to do with the appearance of the teacher at that point.

You don't have to be close to the female students but the female classmates will struggle to warm up to you because of it, and you don't want to only be positively impacting 50% of your class beyond an educational standpoint. You might be a good teacher to them but you obviously recognize the impact of the social aspect and so you should focus on how your job is to be a positive impact on these kids lives rather than them being a positive impact on yours.
Thank you so much for the elaborate and in-depth response. ❤️

You make a great point about good kids being good and shitty kids being shitty. It has little to do with appearance at that point.

Yeah so basically my college requires me to form social relationships with the students as well, so naturally that includes both male and female students.

It’s been easy forming social relationships with the male students but due to my incel mentality of how women must hate the fact I exist due to being so ugly, it also extended to just.. females in general, even if they’re students. It’s hard to turn that off since I’ve lived with this mentality most of my life.
 
Thank you so much for the elaborate and in-depth response. ❤️

You make a great point about good kids being good and shitty kids being shitty. It has little to do with appearance at that point.

Yeah so basically my college requires me to form social relationships with the students as well, so naturally that includes both male and female students.

It’s been easy forming social relationships with the male students but due to my incel mentality of how women must hate the fact I exist due to being so ugly, it also extended to just.. females in general, even if they’re students. It’s hard to turn that off since I’ve lived with this mentality most of my life.
One of the things I had to unlearn after being an incel was understanding my avoidance towards women didn't have to do with how they actually viewed me, or even really how I viewed them (because deep down I knew I didn't hate women), it had to do with me wanting to avoid being uncomfortable.

What's actually the concern if someone hates me because I'm ugly? Or doesn't treat me how they should because of it? Nothing, I just avoided it because I didn't want someone to be mean to me.

Men were not necessarily nicer to me overall, but they felt familiar. I could understand certain struggles and concepts with them that I just couldn't understand with women. So I was willing to be mistreated by other men, because I wasn't uncomfortable. I was still within my comfort zone.

It's kind of hard to get out of it, and there's not much I can say that will undo 10+ years of this kind of thinking. But trying to analyze what aspects you're trying to comfort yourself over might help. "Oh, I can avoid women and avoid being uncomfortable because they don't want to talk to me anyways" kind of mindset might block you from doing what you need to do.
 
As many of you know, I’m a student teacher currently. However, I don’t socialize with any of the female students; only the male students. It’s a mix of wanting to be careful but mainly because I think they don’t want me to socialize with them. But I realize it’s not the right thing to do; I have to be completely neutral. What do you guys think? BTW, I don’t discriminate against the female students otherwise, just in socializing because my incel mindset thinks they don’t want the ugly male teacher to socialize with them even though it’s strictly professional.
i dont care how my teacher looks they are literally older than me, if they nice i see them as a guidance figure and trust them
 
As many of you know, I’m a student teacher currently. However, I don’t socialize with any of the female students; only the male students. It’s a mix of wanting to be careful but mainly because I think they don’t want me to socialize with them. But I realize it’s not the right thing to do; I have to be completely neutral. What do you guys think? BTW, I don’t discriminate against the female students otherwise, just in socializing because my incel mindset thinks they don’t want the ugly male teacher to socialize with them even though it’s strictly professional.
You better start socializing with your female coworkers because from what i know, you most likely gonna find your future wife in the teachers room.
It's well known that teachers date each others a lot
 
Just Be Funny
 
As many of you know, I’m a student teacher currently. However, I don’t socialize with any of the female students; only the male students. It’s a mix of wanting to be careful but mainly because I think they don’t want me to socialize with them. But I realize it’s not the right thing to do; I have to be completely neutral. What do you guys think? BTW, I don’t discriminate against the female students otherwise, just in socializing because my incel mindset thinks they don’t want the ugly male teacher to socialize with them even though it’s strictly professional.
just keep conversations with them short for now and try not to crack many jokes. you can gradually have a better relationship with them over time but just work your way up from the bottom
 
One of the things I had to unlearn after being an incel was understanding my avoidance towards women didn't have to do with how they actually viewed me, or even really how I viewed them (because deep down I knew I didn't hate women), it had to do with me wanting to avoid being uncomfortable.

What's actually the concern if someone hates me because I'm ugly? Or doesn't treat me how they should because of it? Nothing, I just avoided it because I didn't want someone to be mean to me.

Men were not necessarily nicer to me overall, but they felt familiar. I could understand certain struggles and concepts with them that I just couldn't understand with women. So I was willing to be mistreated by other men, because I wasn't uncomfortable. I was still within my comfort zone.

It's kind of hard to get out of it, and there's not much I can say that will undo 10+ years of this kind of thinking. But trying to analyze what aspects you're trying to comfort yourself over might help. "Oh, I can avoid women and avoid being uncomfortable because they don't want to talk to me anyways" kind of mindset might block you from doing what you need to do.
You were an incel? YOU?!!!
 
One of the things I had to unlearn after being an incel was understanding my avoidance towards women didn't have to do with how they actually viewed me, or even really how I viewed them (because deep down I knew I didn't hate women), it had to do with me wanting to avoid being uncomfortable.

What's actually the concern if someone hates me because I'm ugly? Or doesn't treat me how they should because of it? Nothing, I just avoided it because I didn't want someone to be mean to me.

Men were not necessarily nicer to me overall, but they felt familiar. I could understand certain struggles and concepts with them that I just couldn't understand with women. So I was willing to be mistreated by other men, because I wasn't uncomfortable. I was still within my comfort zone.

It's kind of hard to get out of it, and there's not much I can say that will undo 10+ years of this kind of thinking. But trying to analyze what aspects you're trying to comfort yourself over might help. "Oh, I can avoid women and avoid being uncomfortable because they don't want to talk to me anyways" kind of mindset might block you from doing what you need to do.
You really understand what I'm going through. That's exactly how it is. This just means I have to unlearn a lot of things I've been telling myself. I've got to unlearn the things I've been saying to myself for the past 15 years. It's so much easier said than done.

Holy fuck I just realized I've got an assignment for uni and the deadline is an hour and a half from.

Be right fucking back.
 
As many of you know, I’m a student teacher currently. However, I don’t socialize with any of the female students; only the male students. It’s a mix of wanting to be careful but mainly because I think they don’t want me to socialize with them. But I realize it’s not the right thing to do; I have to be completely neutral. What do you guys think? BTW, I don’t discriminate against the female students otherwise, just in socializing because my incel mindset thinks they don’t want the ugly male teacher to socialize with them even though it’s strictly professional.
your 30?
 

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