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Doesn’t make them a good team ?
Yea obviously it is but you could make the claim that the euros are harder. In the wc look at Messi’s road to the finals ? Not a single top 20 team
Messi wouldn’t even have an international career if it wasnt for mr big game clutch di maria, scored goasl in all fo messi’s international finals. The moment he leaves the team we have to watch the poat drop a generational stinker in the final
uuuh, yes it does, they were playing good
idk england looks like a top 20 team to me
it literally isnt like that in the euros especially not for portugal
Why is the copa America and euros even being debated.
and play one of the best world cups ever and carry his team ik
World Cup isn’t as hard as the ucl
Pre ronaldo portugal 23 games against italy 4 wins 2 draws post ronaldo 4 games played 2 wins one draw,
explain this stat line then
Ronaldo had a shittier team that hates him
So why hasn’t he been able to win it? Lmaooo
Just say your goat is a big game fraud, even in the ucl, it was neymar who scored the winning goal in the semi final and final. And lets talk about his greatest calender year with 91 USELESS goals that only contributed to a copa del ray
Until the semis. Bro obv you gonna play a good team in the semis that’s a given
Compare the road to the nations league final for Ronaldo and compare it to Argentina’s path
Shit team
portugal got betterPre ronaldo portugal 23 games against italy 4 wins 2 draws post ronaldo 4 games played 2 wins one draw,
Including him, yeah. That’s exactly why they haven’t won
they won euros 2021 they were not washed pre ronaldo against argentina 6 games 1 wins 1 draw post ronaldo 2 games 1 win idk about you but those percentages are better
what did portugal and ronaldo win against 2021 italy?
In club football you can join the best teams based on your ability, in international football no matter how good you are you are stuck eith your nations talent, look at kvartshkilia, he is clearly a world class player but since he from georgia he will never win major trophies with them
portugal didn’t play italy 2021 only the under 21s did which they beat italy 5-3
ok so that doesnt invalidate my point
Or Ronaldo’s international career was washed since the beginning, since he doesn’t have a goated squad to give him tap ins
doesn’t validate it either
well it does actually, cuz italy was washed in the times ronaldo won shii with portugal
he did win trophies with portugal tho?
when italy and england and germany was washed and his only competion was spain and france, so ts just proves my point
his “only” competition would wipe most the south american teams
south american teams in the euros and nations league?
lol pathetic reasoning
he is better in every way, he’s a better scorer, playmaker and teammate. Ronaldo is a high volume player, he gets the ball a lot and shoots the ball a lot so of course he will have a lot of goals, messi is literally the perfect all around player
messi stats g/a, mogs ronaldo, overall goals per matches, trophies etc, ALSO 91 goals in a calendar year btw
Favorable environment
How?
Favorable environment. System player
Farmed trophies
Ronaldo more consistent. Ronaldo has double 60+ goals a season then Messi. Yes Messi had a amazing year with that but Ronaldo more consistent
yeah favourable environment good arguement,
he did btw
How is that not a good argument ? If you’ve ever played sports yk how important that is. He had a favorable environment , better teammates , better coaches.
Like 150 more. And Ronaldo was a midfielder for like first 8 years of his career
Favorbale engiornemnt. Plus Messi is the better playmaker. Plus Ronaldo stopped assisting after 2019
Because it clearly is. Messi didn’t deserve 2021 nor 2023
Only had a good team this last World Cup and his team sold
Fairs
What does this add ???
messi done drugs no proof, messi took hgh yes but he was forced to
so? it doesnt matter tho who cares, yeah messi got better favourable support so he got better
sure ronaldo was midfielder at first but still 150 matches ahead is crazy, and he started playing football well before messi
football is a team game if ronaldo, 'stops' assists, he is selfish
sure 8-2 6 balon dors, still higher than ronaldo
blame his team instead of ronaldo, in argentina everyone are underdogs, messi is a great leader who brought them together, portugal always had world class players.
proved it yourself
How does that not matter ? Ronaldo adjusted to environments meanwhile Messi had them made for him
He started 1.5 season before him. And he started as a midfielder. You should compare their stats from 2007 onwards
How ? By stopping I meant he just converted into more of a poacher. Ronaldo has always assisted. In fact a lot of dangerous chances were never converted because of how dogshit some of teammates were
?????? They should both have 6 in my opinion
Because his team was clearly dog shit until recently. And when they became good everyone decided to not play as a team
true. And that’s what Portugal needed
Until 2022 they never had one for Ronaldo’s time. Maybe an old Luis figo but that’s it
Dude we all know how padded his ratings are. This isn’t even a good argument ?