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Hgh is for ogres and is expensive and more deadly then most compounds a hard no
Can you guys please, without autism, elab if I should do a testosterone, hgh, or both cycle? what are the reasons for each please? id appreciate it a lot. i'm a skinny guy with mild to no experience at at the gym. im ok with spending high. please debate and explain me which path i should go: test, hgh, or both? and why, pros and cons..


I'm a 22yo skinny guy. I'd love to look like vinniehacker bodywise
 
Can you guys please, without autism, elab if I should do a testosterone, hgh, or both cycle? what are the reasons for each please? id appreciate it a lot. i'm a skinny guy with mild to no experience at at the gym. im ok with spending high. please debate and explain me which path i should go: test, hgh, or both? and why, pros and cons..


I'm a 22yo skinny guy. I'd love to look like vinniehacker.
HGH has bad sides if you're doing like 10 ius daily
idk

But you should just start going to the gym for a good baseline
the less bf you have the less test can aromatize it

i dont do roids tho
just reta

i would just only run test if you're starting
its way cheaper than high purity HGH
 
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Can you guys please, without autism, elab if I should do a testosterone, hgh, or both cycle? what are the reasons for each please? id appreciate it a lot. i'm a skinny guy with mild to no experience at at the gym. im ok with spending high. please debate and explain me which path i should go: test, hgh, or both? and why, pros and cons..


I'm a 22yo skinny guy. I'd love to look like vinniehacker bodywise
HGH is safer and has less long term risks, test is more efficient for building muscle but you can fuck ur body up if u do it wrong

I would pair both together just do something in the range of 2 ius of GH and 300 test

Im not that knowledgeable in terms of steroid cycles but I would recommend u go on thinksteroids forum and other bodybuilding forums
 
Can you guys please, without autism, elab if I should do a testosterone, hgh, or both cycle? what are the reasons for each please? id appreciate it a lot. i'm a skinny guy with mild to no experience at at the gym. im ok with spending high. please debate and explain me with path i should go: test, hgh, or both? and why, pros and cons..


I'm a 22yo skinny guy.
Test is a base compound meaning it's going to be used with every cycle no matter what roids your on test will be in the mix

Test is perfect on just 400mg of test you can expect with average genetics to put on 25lbs of muscle with one cycle or even more muscle depending on your genetics

Test also has skin qualitys and androgynous effects meaning you can look more masculine and deeper voice

Also test will make you feel like a man you won't be a pussy and you will have confidence in a good way

Test is also ez to cycle on and off and cheap

Now

Hgh is extremely expensive 500 to 12k for the cycles if your buying under this it's either mixed or just fake

Hgh has bad sides like making nose2snd ears bigger

It can make you look bloated

No One uses hgh but tiktok looksmaxxers and pro bodybuilders

Overall not worth it imo
 
HGH is safer and has less long term risks
Hgh has extreme long term risk test doesn't have any serious long term risk test is less hard on the cns than hgh it's also easier to got out to your system
 
Test is a base compound meaning it's going to be used with every cycle no matter what roids your on test will be in the mix

Test is perfect on just 400mg of test you can expect with average genetics to put on 25lbs of muscle with one cycle or even more muscle depending on your genetics

Test also has skin qualitys and androgynous effects meaning you can look more masculine and deeper voice

Also test will make you feel like a man you won't be a pussy and you will have confidence in a good way

Test is also ez to cycle on and off and cheap

Now

Hgh is extremely expensive 500 to 12k for the cycles if your buying under this it's either mixed or just fake

Hgh has bad sides like making nose2snd ears bigger

It can make you look bloated

No One uses hgh but tiktok looksmaxxers and pro bodybuilders

Overall not worth it imo
Thank you a lot for the input.
 
Hgh has extreme long term risk test doesn't have any serious long term risk test is less hard on the cns than hgh it's also easier to got out to your system
Fairs but most people here are retarded and test is easier to fuck ur body up with

Yes you could pin like 100 iu of hgh or whatever but no one is that dumb
 
HGH has bad sides if you're doing like 10 ius daily
idk

But you should just start going to the gym for a good baseline
the less bf you have the less test can aromatize it

i dont do roids tho
just reta

i would just only run test if you're starting
its way cheaper than high purity HGH
I've ran reta in the past, just for that extra boost in leanness. But maybe I should try a bit of muscle for once. I'm also on microdose accutane and dutasteride so I think it should counter a couple of the bad sides of test @Clone?
 
I've ran reta in the past, just for that extra boost in leanness. But maybe I should try a bit of muscle for once. I'm also on microdose accutane and dutasteride so I think it should counter a couple of the bad sides of test @Clone?
Most people won't experience any sides of test even at 400mg or 500mg but if you don't ecoun4thry are very ez to overcome DM if you get them
 
Most people won't experience any sides of test even at 400mg or 500mg but if you don't ecoun4thry are very ez to overcome DM if you get them
Not abusing ur goodwill, what would you recommend me? 183, 22, around 130. can't bench much. How much should I start pinning, how often, what dosages, and what type of test (if there's like brands of it). Again, no probs with money.
 
Not abusing ur goodwill, what would you recommend me? 183, 22, around 130. can't bench much. How much should I start pinning, how often, what dosages, and what type of test (if there's like brands of it). Again, no probs with money.
@Clone
 
Not abusing ur goodwill, what would you recommend me? 183, 22, around 130. can't bench much. How much should I start pinning, how often, what dosages, and what type of test (if there's like brands of it). Again, no probs with money.
At 22 and 130 at 183

And as your first cycle the best option is 350 to 400mg of test cyp

You want to start pinning 200mg twice a week

Every 3.5 days days eg,Monday morning & Thursday evening etc
This minimizes peaks reducing side effects like mood swings, acne, and estrogen related issues like gyno or ED

The type of test is test cyp or test Enan

The Brand I would go for is ultima pharma

I highly advise clomid as a pct
 
At 22 and 130 at 183

And as your first cycle the best option is 350 to 400mg of test cyp

You want to start pinning 200mg twice a week

Every 3.5 days days eg,Monday morning & Thursday evening etc
This minimizes peaks reducing side effects like mood swings, acne, and estrogen related issues like gyno or ED

The type of test is test cyp or test Enan

The Brand I would go for is ultima pharma

I highly advise clomid as a pct
Thank you. Will it help with motivation to hit the gym too? Because I'm currently very depressed and can barely move out of the house.
 
Thank you. Will it help with motivation to hit the gym too? Because I'm currently very depressed and can barely move out of the house.
Yeah test helps with depression and definitely helps with motivation for me it was like a happy drug ngl
 
Yeah test helps with depression and definitely helps with motivation for me it was like a happy drug ngl
Also since your new only pin your glutes no where else
 
Seems very compicated to do. How do I do it safely?
Pin one of your glutes at a 90 degree angle and inject slowly until the syringe is empty then throw it away it seems hard but trust if those tiktok roid heads can do it anyone can

Here watch this guys channel this will put everything you need to know at ease

Watch the playlist
 

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